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I've found myself thinking about how some of the new versions of rules compare to their older counterparts, and I've realized that I miss some of the old incarnations of rules. What about you guys? What are some old rules whose modern equivalents just don't quite pump you up the way the old ones did? What are some rules that simply vanished that you miss?

A few of mine:

1. Bladestorm. The pseudo-rending is nice, but I miss the extra shot option the avengers used to have. It made them quite scary against hordes of infantry, and it was a blast to roll all those dice!
2. Power From Pain. While it's nice to not lose all my tokens when a handful of units die, the new version of power from pain isn't as viscerally rewarding. 6+ FNP *has* saved me a few times, but I still miss being able to give wyches 4+ FNP on turn 1 with a haemonculus and getting rewarded for killing things with more pain tokens. The new version also seems counter-intuitive for an alpha-strike army.
3. Ork mob rule. I'm not really an ork player, but the new mob rule is the main thing keeping me from becoming one. It drives my opponents to take heavily armored elite oks rather than lots of boyz. It seems like a punishment for playing "vanilla orks." I miss fighting against the old rule where you had to whittle down the enemy squad to make them run away or to make them susceptible to certain weapons and effects. The old version was just more fun and interactive.
4. Lictor deployment. I miss having them jump out of the bushes and assault something right away. Granted, it's not much fun to be unable to prevent such a tactic, but as is, they have trouble surviving through the following enemy turn.
5. Lictor pheremone trail. The new version is actually pretty okay in combination with mawlocs and the new pods, but I miss being able to have tides of outflanking, deepstriking, etc. critters show up fast.

Lumbering Behemoth.

Vanilla and Demolisher Russes haven't been quite the same since.

Some of the old Markerlight options, like inflicting a penalty for Pinning Tests.

1. Mob Rule: I agree with you completely
2. Ramshackle: Man was it fun to roll that scatter dice for your trukk and watch it explode over your enemy. The visualization of a space marine firing a meltagun in to an oncoming trukk and watching it fly over his head to explode was priceless. Now its just a d6 to make a pen become a glance....what?
3. Deff Rolla. Well this was just a straight nerf. Used to be amazing and I have 3 BWs with deff rollas that are now just modeled to be reinforced rams.

4. I think this one counts. Black Templar codex and the Vows. is that a rule? Either way I miss have a Black Templar codex. I mean, the Space Marine Codex is stronger than the old 4th ed. BT codex, but there was just something about having your own book for that army. Also, the Black Templar chapter tactics are less than optimal.

Orks rolling on grenades, where they can throw the pin instead of the grenade. Such a funny rule. If it is still in the game I wasn't aware, my mate told me about it.

This.

Old wound allocation. It makes the game simpler.

I miss mark of the wulfen and the old acute senses rules

 Grimtuff wrote:
This.

Spoiler:

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Good times.

Gonna place a second vote for old wound allocation (6th/7th is a complicated mess for no gain, imo).

Also seconding the old mob rule. Simpler and more effective... better change that. Lol.

I miss True Grit, t'was great.

EDIT: Also I do agree about the mob rule.

I have one major and four minor rules that I miss although all but the ruin rules and partly the sniper have more to do with background than any game mechanics.

1. The 6th ed ruin rules with floors and stuff. It made the game much simpler in regards to blasts and assaults.
2. Njall's lord of tempest table, calling down lightning on the enemy is always fun
3. Grimnar's high king rule, it made him something more than just a beatstick.
4. The black templar vows, it realy suited their history and the name of the vows were awsome.
5. 6th ed sniper rules, pinning should realy be a feature of the sniper.

4th edition Synapse.
Flyers as Apocalypse only.
5th edition Wound Allocation.
4th edition Mob rule.
5th edition Instinctive Behaviour.
Pre-7th edition Psychic Tests.

Pinning on sniper rifles (didn't think of that )
Reducing leadership with marker lights
The old stealth suit rules where you couldn't actually shoot at them if you were outside a distance determined by a roll (to which the maximum was conveniently the range of their weapons).

Subject to Hatred

... quickly followed by Subject to Stupidity..

Being able to charge after coming in from reserves.

5th editions wound allocation allowed some shenanigans, but I greatly preferred it's abstraction of combat. A few tweaks would have made it just about perfect, but they had to throw out everything...
I also miss the rules for ruins and assaults from reserves.

Any form of casualty removal that wasn't just 'remove the closest guy'...


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 Fafnir13 wrote:
5th editions wound allocation allowed some shenanigans, but I greatly preferred it's abstraction of combat. A few tweaks would have made it just about perfect, but they had to throw out everything...

Pretty much all it needed was the return of 4th edition's 'apply wounds to already wounded models first'.

I remember taking upgrades and getting an ability instead of a roll on a table. That was pretty cool.

Also, Carnifexes used to be considered big.

To hit modifiers instead of cover saves.

Ramshackle. Characterful and funny

Old Looted Weapons rule: take options of certain SM or IG squads--and occasionally shoot your mate.

Old Looted Wagons rules: (the ones that let you take Russes, etc). Fantastic for converters

Old Mob Rule: much more representative of the fluff

Mobbin' Up: even better, and more fun (ork units fell back towards the nearest ork unit, and joined it!) Sad to see it go.

Old Attack Squig. An actual squig that attacked with its own profile, not a squig that had a powerklaw bite if you happened to own a powerklaw

First Incarnation of the Blasta Bomma rules (the one where a crash was actually more damaging and accurate than dropping the bomb--at the cost of losing your bomma!).

And, just so people don't think I only like orks:

Tau Auxiliaries: Strange that you can convince Kroot and Vespid to help out, but not humans

Weapon profiles from 2nd Edition.

I miss a rule that said that any model that tipped over (due to standing on uneven terrain) got a wound. This may have been a WFB rule though. Either way it was around 2nd edition times i think.
Feel it goes back to when rules had more fun in them and it was also a fluffy way of getting players to avoid placing models in places they should not be.

I miss 5th edition so much. 7th has some nice things but as mechanized HH World Eaters 6th was hell on earth.

Lumbering Behemoth.

Vox's that actually had something to do with range.

Legion-specific rules.

Icons that acted as DS beacons

5th edition vehicles in general

Also, while totally broken, I do miss the whole "scout Vendetta up 12" away from the enemy, on turn 1, disembark melta unit, have 3 melta-guns in double-pen range and vendetta with side-armor shots while LRBT's lob pie-plates from the backfield before opponent gets to do anything". *THAT* was truly awful.

1. Charging after coming in from reserves.
2. Old rending
3. Literally every single Tervigon rule.
4. Shadow in the Warp being relevant.
5. Old synapse that gave EW.

Jeffrachov wrote:
I miss a rule that said that any model that tipped over (due to standing on uneven terrain) got a wound. This may have been a WFB rule though. Either way it was around 2nd edition times i think..

Unless it was from Rogue Trader, that's never been a 40K rule. The closest was the 2nd ed Ork Battlewagon, which allowed you to transport as many orks as you could pile on top, but they took a wound if they fell off.

Being able to consolidate / sweeping advance into another unit to stay locked in combat.

Terminator saves on 2D6.

 insaniak wrote:

Jeffrachov wrote:
I miss a rule that said that any model that tipped over (due to standing on uneven terrain) got a wound. This may have been a WFB rule though. Either way it was around 2nd edition times i think..

Unless it was from Rogue Trader, that's never been a 40K rule. The closest was the 2nd ed Ork Battlewagon, which allowed you to transport as many orks as you could pile on top, but they took a wound if they fell off.

Hahahahaha omg thats awesome, that needs to be brought back