Vanguard Miniatures update thread - Mar 10: Zeus Grand Cruiser + Cybershadows ships

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**schoon**

Great stuff, as always.

Those will really add some character to tank leaders and super heavies.

**Strombones**

Looks great!

I'm gonna need them in 15 though....

**Malika2**

3mm reinforcements inbound!

3mm Novan Regulars Winter Support Troops Set (S2) - £12.00

This set consists of two Cavalry squadrons, and two Assault Grenadier platoons with the option to mechanise them in Samson utility vehicles, also included is one Breaching drill to act as a game marker for siege games.

Set contents:

24 x cavalry strips
2 x command cavalry strips
2 x political officers on horse back.

8 x grenadier strips
2 x grenadier command strips
4 x grenadier flamethrower teams
2 x political officers on foot
12 x samson utility/transport vehicles
1 x breaching drill

Basing guide for Dominion:

Cavalry, 60mm x 40mm
Grenadiers, 40mm x 40mm
Samsons, 60mm x 40mm
Breaching drill, optional

https://vanguardminiatures.co.uk/shop/3mm-novan-regulars-winter-support-troops-set-s2/

3mm Novan Regulars Archer Self-propelled Artillery Company Set (S3) - £12.00

This set consists of one complete Archer artillery company.

Set contents:

12 x archer SPA
1 x overlander command halftrack (van body)
1 x warrior command escort vehicle

Basing guide for Dominion:

Archer SPA = 60mm x 40mm 3 – SPA per base
Artillery command = 40mm x 40mm

https://vanguardminiatures.co.uk/shop/3mm-novan-regulars-archer-self-propelled-artillery-company-set-s3/

**Easy E**

Ahhhh..... my little ponies!

**Malika2**

The Cybershadows will be getting new infantry units. Coming soon: the Cybershadow Protector.

**ingtaer**

Hey mate, do you know if the stealth ship is available yet? I had a look but could not find it but its entirely feasible that I am either too blind or too stupid!
(incidentally Malika do you work for vanguard? After all this time I still haven't managed to work it out.)

**Malika2**

No clear ETA on my ship designs yet. I think Vanguard Miniatures were tempted to maybe do a mini crowd funder for them, but nothing set in stone yet.

As for my position, I do a bunch of the design stuff for Vanguard Miniatures at the moment, but this is on a freelance basis. As for me posting and forums and what not, that's just me trying to fill for John (who runs Vanguard Miniatures, basically it's a one man operation).

**ingtaer**

Malika2 wrote:
No clear ETA on my ship designs yet. I think Vanguard Miniatures were tempted to maybe do a mini crowd funder for them, but nothing set in stone yet.

As for my position, I do a bunch of the design stuff for Vanguard Miniatures at the moment, but this is on a freelance basis. As for me posting and forums and what not, that's just me trying to fill for John (who runs Vanguard Miniatures, basically it's a one man operation).

Cheers for the answers mate, the stealth ship is your design? Very nice work! I hope you are looking at doing more in a similar vein. Will chuck money at a kickstarter but sooner is better for mine

**Malika2**

I did the Felis Stealth Ship yeah. Several types of (semi) civilian ships have been submitted for printing as well.

**Strombones**

All looks great. After the holiday season settles down and mail services return to normal, I'm going to add a bunch more 15mm tanks.

They really are fantastic sculpts. I hope that line continues to grow.

**ingtaer**

Semi as in Q ship or armed merchant man? Wish I had the funds at the moment to commission a ship. Don't suppose you are feeling the need to make an escort carrier and small fleet carrier any time soon?

Mate, seriously nice job on the Felis, very nice attention to detail and scale. Just wish I could buy the damned thing!

**Malika2**

Funny you should mention an escort carrier...

**Easy E**

Man. Sometimes I wish I had spent time learning how to 3D CAD draw instead of the basic sculpting I learned. It seems like a way cooler use of my time.

Great stuff as always Malika!

**Albertorius**

Any chances of selling files for printing? I now have both a fdm and a dlp printer, and well... I kind of want to use them for everything, now ^^

**Malika2**

At the moment Vanguard Miniatures isn't selling .stl files yet.

**schoon**

Got my first Vanguard order in the post on Friday - mostly 6mm odds and ends to support Titanicus buildings and Titan bases - and I must say I'm impressed.

The casting quality is very high, with good detail and no flash to speak of. Speaking of detail, they manage to pack in quite a bit for 6mm figures.

If you've been on the fence about their stuff, I'd say it's worth it.

**Malika2**

schoon wrote:
Got my first Vanguard order in the post on Friday - mostly 6mm odds and ends to support Titanicus buildings and Titan bases - and I must say I'm impressed.

The casting quality is very high, with good detail and no flash to speak of. Speaking of detail, they manage to pack in quite a bit for 6mm figures.

If you've been on the fence about their stuff, I'd say it's worth it.

Awesome! Don't hesitate to share your pics.

**Albertorius**

Malika2 wrote:
At the moment Vanguard Miniatures isn't selling .stl files yet.

Ah well. Thanks for the answer anyway

**Malika2**

Albertorius wrote:
Malika2 wrote:
At the moment Vanguard Miniatures isn't selling .stl files yet.

Ah well. Thanks for the answer anyway

It's a tricky risk to take. I mean, in theory you'd need to sell the file once before it gets shared everywhere. The miniatures/toys industry seems to be at a similar challenge the music industry was when the whole downloading/sharing of music became mainstream. It took them about a decade to come up with a more sustainable business model (questionable as it might still be).

I do know that Vanguard Miniatures are contemplating on how to approach this, which is something many in the miniatures industry are probably doing. How to sell miniatures if everybody can just print them at home?

**Mysterio**

We're probably still a good ways off from everyone printing things at home though, I think?

Still, it will be a difficult decision to make, especially in terms of timing...

**Albertorius**

Malika2 wrote:
Albertorius wrote:
Malika2 wrote:
At the moment Vanguard Miniatures isn't selling .stl files yet.

Ah well. Thanks for the answer anyway

It's a tricky risk to take. I mean, in theory you'd need to sell the file once before it gets shared everywhere. The miniatures/toys industry seems to be at a similar challenge the music industry was when the whole downloading/sharing of music became mainstream. It took them about a decade to come up with a more sustainable business model (questionable as it might still be).

I do know that Vanguard Miniatures are contemplating on how to approach this, which is something many in the miniatures industry are probably doing. How to sell miniatures if everybody can just print them at home?

Yeah, I completely get the risks, and I understand that it's something that clearly needs thinking over. I sympathize, because it is certainly not an easy decision.

That said, IMHO it is the future of the hobby, particulaly with how overseas shipping costs are getting to absolutely ridiculous levels.

Which, of course, means it certainly merits thinking it over, because it is something that, when done, needs to be done right ^_^.

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Mysterio wrote:
We're probably still a good ways off from everyone printing things at home though, I think?

Still, it will be a difficult decision to make, especially in terms of timing...

Well... I made this one today, at home, in a couple of hours, so...

Spoiler:

**Malika2**

Home printing isn't that difficult and expensive anymore. Tabletop wargaming companies need to seriously ponder how to deal with this. Perhaps one could open a new thread on that in the appropriate section for this forum?

**Albertorius**

Sure, sorry for the hijack ^_^

**Malika2**

Albertorius wrote:
Sure, sorry for the hijack ^_^

No worries about it. It wasn't a hijack yet.

**Easy E**

What size bases are they using for the 3mm stuff in the photos? Does anyone know?

**Malika2**

60mm x 40mm or 40mm x 40mm, depending on the unit.

**Malika2**

Coming soon...

**Kid_Kyoto**

Malika2 wrote:
Home printing isn't that difficult and expensive anymore. Tabletop wargaming companies need to seriously ponder how to deal with this. Perhaps one could open a new thread on that in the appropriate section for this forum?

We might reach the point where game companies are either limited to big stuff that's impractical to print at home or go to a one and done model, where you release a product but don't reprint since it'll be pirated/copied within months.

But hey we all have printers at home and books are still a thing...

**Pacific**

Like the emplacement

Yeah I think for most 'casual' gamers and modellers (who will still account for 99% of sales) it will still be easier to go out to a shop or buy online, than to mess around printing your own.

So I see it as hopefully making it much easier for garage producers to make their own stuff, with many more miniatures on sale (some very niche), without it burying the miniature industry so that only massive companies with powerful legal teams and IP survive.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

There will be a load more garage producers,

a probably a fair few basic sculpts by people desiging stuff for fun

but not a lot of cohesive lines of products a lot of the people who do the sculpting for the small companies will give up as they won't be able to earn enough from making new stuff before it gets ripped off, only those who go to work for the few large companies with legal departments will be able to do something like a faction or a full game