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2017/03/21 22:19:23
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - 2017 Edition!
The fellow who runs Warsenal is a decent guy too. I met him at a tournament some years ago. Warsenal makes quality stuff. (And to be immodest, I do know quality terrain.)
The terrain is sweet looking, but a bit small for my current tastes. Bigger buildings make for faster table set-up.
Ordered the Festively Plump Space Pirates from the GameNerdz. Breaks my pledge to buy no more minis until I paint the ones I have. Darned LE offerings
2017/03/22 01:10:01
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - 2017 Edition!
-Loki- wrote: So, not Corvus Belli, but official terrain. Warsen.al have previewed some new totally awesome terrain. I really, really need that Bourak terrain.
Lo Pans Noodle House.
Will I be attacked by ancestral evil sorcerers if I eat regularly there?
2017/03/22 14:55:46
Subject: Re:The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - 2017 Edition!
-Loki- wrote: The Haqqislam terrain is a lot bigger than it looks. You can fit a Maghariba Guard in the larger buildings main door.
Spoiler:
I wonder at what point does it become less expensive to doing certain details in lasercut (since if I recall $$ is usually based on lasercut time) vs doing metal or resin parts. The $125, now $110 price on that thing just makes it a bit steep. That is the range when it starts competing with resin cast buildings that have a lot less fiddly assembly.
Don't get me wrong, not knocking Warsen.al at all. I have quite a bit of their stuff and really do love it. I like what they have done with the designs and some of the facades. The lull of lasercut terrain though was to get nice looking product on a table at a fraction of the cost of traditional terrain pieces. $100 is half the cost to normally be able to buy a whole table of terrain, instead of one building.
2017/03/22 15:42:16
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - 2017 Edition!
The thought that Infinity takes place in the far future of the 'verse in which Big Trouble in Little China occurs gives me all the feelz.
Man, I wish there was a real Black Library where I could get a Black Library Card and take out Black Library Books without having to buy them. Of course, late fees would be your soul. But it would be worth it. - InquisitorMack
2017/03/22 15:46:04
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - 2017 Edition!
I wonder if anyone does not. They introduced Lo Pan's Noodle Bar some time ago (August of last year) , in the Operation Red Veil starter box. Kurt Russell's 2nd best movie. (Y'all know which is his best. Don't y'all dare say "Tango & Cash" either )
Red Harvest wrote: The terrain is sweet looking, but a bit small for my current tastes. Bigger buildings make for faster table set-up.
The Haqqislam terrain is a lot bigger than it looks. You can fit a Maghariba Guard in the larger buildings main door.
That looks maybe 10"x10"? I couldn't find the dimensions on the www.Warsen.al site, I meant things that are at least 12" by 12" or larger-- with space for scatter pieces. Warsenal has done a few pieces like that. These new releases don't look quite that big. However, they are modular.
Infinity needs more terrain that is "Maggie-Friendly."
2017/03/22 23:03:14
Subject: Re:The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - 2017 Edition!
-Loki- wrote: The Haqqislam terrain is a lot bigger than it looks. You can fit a Maghariba Guard in the larger buildings main door.
Spoiler:
I wonder at what point does it become less expensive to doing certain details in lasercut (since if I recall $$ is usually based on lasercut time) vs doing metal or resin parts. The $125, now $110 price on that thing just makes it a bit steep. That is the range when it starts competing with resin cast buildings that have a lot less fiddly assembly.
Don't get me wrong, not knocking Warsen.al at all. I have quite a bit of their stuff and really do love it. I like what they have done with the designs and some of the facades. The lull of lasercut terrain though was to get nice looking product on a table at a fraction of the cost of traditional terrain pieces. $100 is half the cost to normally be able to buy a whole table of terrain, instead of one building.
There's plenty of that around as well. But it tends to be square and rectangle boxes with etched detail. Warsen.al sells stuff like that as well, their Alpha/Beta/Delta range. It's fine for filling up a table nice and cheap and fast. But the market is really filled with that. Off the top of my head I can think of half a dozen places that sell cheap, basic, low detail MDF terrain, some of them in bundles with an ITS spec objective room even if they aren't official partners.
I was musing about this the other night, there's more third party manufacturers pumping out more third party terrain than there was for 40k making extra bits. The amount of terrain out there is insane, because someone just needs a basic laser cutter, some skill with CAD-like programs and the will to make a boxy building with some line detail. Somewhere there will be a market for that and people will buy it in quantities to justify that persons weekend hobby making it. Sculpting bits like weapons and actual human-like figures, 3D or traditional sculpting, is much more difficult.
So places like Warsen.al, Warmill, Antenocities Workshop, Miniature Scenery, etc seem to have shifted gears to providing much more detailed terrain. Rather than just etched on detail, they do multiple layers of detail. Where a simpler building will etch on borders around a window and borders at corners, they will have that and extra layers of parts to put over the window or corner. They will have layers to hide join lines and pegs. Chances are where an air vent is located, which looks like extraneous detail, there's 3 peg holes in the wall for interior raised floors to connect to. They do curved surfaces with plasticard or carstock, or they include some actual interior terrain.
A good example of somewhere that does it all is Zen Terrain. You've got the usual cheap, boxy hab buildings, L-shaped building and medical building. These are pretty basic with mostly etched on details and few layers, and no interiors. Then you've got the Police Station and Biker Bar.
It results in much more expensive products, because they've got an extra sheet or two of parts, acrylic peices, interior details, cardstock peices, etc. Also in the early days these companies were still finding their feet with the technology and what they could do with it, so they were putting out more basic pieces simply because it's what they knew how to do. As their skill level increased, so did the complexity of their products. These days, with both basic and complex MDF terrain being offered, usually by the same company, it just depends on the money you want to spend.
edit - specifically about resin terrain, I've experienced nothing that tells me it's better for the type of terrain you want with Infinity. It gets more organic shapes, but when you've got to deal with filling in air bubbles, fixing mold slippage, cleaning mold lines, removing casting tabs, etc I just find MDF easier and more tolerable to work with. If I'm looking for alien looking terrain I'd look at resin. If I'm looking for human cyberpunk terrain, resin doesn't do anything that MDF can't, and well made MDF buildings look just as good as resin buildings with enough effort from the creator, like those Bourak buildings.
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2017/03/23 01:29:42
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - 2017 Edition!
That looks maybe 10"x10"? I couldn't find the dimensions on the www.Warsen.al site, I meant things that are at least 12" by 12" or larger-- with space for scatter pieces.
13" x 12.5" x 7" tall
2017/03/24 00:38:50
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - 2017 Edition!
That looks maybe 10"x10"? I couldn't find the dimensions on the www.Warsen.al site, I meant things that are at least 12" by 12" or larger-- with space for scatter pieces.
13" x 12.5" x 7" tall
The gencon exclusive Studio B (which is still available - guess they didn't sell as many as they thought) is pretty big as well - 13" x 11" x 8.5" tall.
Spoiler:
2017/03/26 01:14:13
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - 2017 Edition!
Yeah, that Noodle Hut is thr bee's knees. Someday, I will have one.
I absolutely understand people's comments about bigger terrain, but a big part of Infinity's appeal for me is the setting; not bombed-out husks of buildings, but actual inhabited cities. Using a stool or cash register to stop a bullet is far more interesting to me.
At last! The proper Baconland scenario. I approve. Now we await the minis themselves. Pre-order ends 3 April. I reckon sometime around 17-19 April they will begin shipping, at least from Wartsore. I have no idea about the time-frame from GameNerdz. Miniature Market has yet to list them as available for order. Meh. I took y'all's advice and ordered from GameNerdz last week.
The terrain piece is a good size then, at 13" x 12.5" x 7" tall. I've found that 4-5 large buildings and maybe an equal amount of medium sized buildings, plus scatter, make for a nice table. Room for the TAGs, but not a Chainrifle/Flamethrower paradise either. Height, building height, is something neglected too.
No word from Adepticon on the April previews?
2017/03/28 22:36:00
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - 2017 Edition!
That piggie is the ugly thing that comes with the Yu Jing "Dragon Lady" HVT. I just threw mine in the bits box. The noodle boxes are the tactical debris that the Noodle Yuan Yuan is standing on top of.
I guess having it associated with the Fat Yuan Yuans would make sense. Good to find a use for it after all.
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You know, with April 1st coming up, it would have been a rather interesting gag this year if the Fat Yuan Yuan was unveiled then.
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2017/03/29 02:03:07
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - 2017 Edition!
They introduced Lo Pan's Noodle Bar some time ago (August of last year) , in the Operation Red Veil starter box. Kurt Russell's 2nd best movie. (Y'all know which is his best. Don't y'all dare say "Tango & Cash" either 
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