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2018/08/22 19:10:17
Subject: Re:BattleTech - new starter sets coming soon
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Lieutenant General
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BrianDavion wrote: Ghaz wrote:From Coming Releases on the Official BattleTech website:
Technical Readout: Clan Invasion
Release Date: 4th Quarter 2018
A small skirmish on a little-known planetoid called The Rock in 3049 was the first warning that the invasion had arrived. The Clans, genetically engineered warriors piloting cutting-edge OmniMechs, spent the next three years tearing through the Inner Sphere’s elite, claiming world after world in a seemingly endless campaign of conquest. Only a desperate, final stand against the combined might of the Clans could deny the invaders their glittering prize: Terra itself.
Technical Readout: Clan Invasion is a companion to the BattleTech Manual and the follow-up to Technical Readout: Succession Wars. Combining ‘Mechs previously detailed in Technical Readout: 3050 Upgrade, Technical Readout: 3055 Upgrade, Technical Readout: 3058 Upgrade, Technical Readout: 3060, and Technical Readout: 3067, this volume includes the unequaled Clan OmniMechs and upgraded Inner Sphere ‘Mechs fielding technology unlocked by the Helm Memory Core. Each machine is illustrated in detail, and accompanied by a description of its history, capabilities, and game stats, along with their most famous pilots.
so it's tro 3050, 3055, 3058 3060 and 3067 COMBINED?! jesus that thing must be HUGE
From the BattleTech Forum it's the same size as Technical Readout: Succession Wars (so approximately 93 'mechs) and no new art
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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2018/08/22 19:20:43
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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So it won't have the Macross unseens, then? That's a bummer. I was hoping they would put them there, seeing as they weren't in the Succ. Wars TR.
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2018/08/22 19:26:36
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Albertorius wrote:So it won't have the Macross unseens, then? That's a bummer. I was hoping they would put them there, seeing as they weren't in the Succ. Wars TR.
It might have the upgraded variants which appeared in TRO: 3050, at least originally.
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2018/08/22 19:42:28
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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DarkTraveler777 wrote: Albertorius wrote:So it won't have the Macross unseens, then? That's a bummer. I was hoping they would put them there, seeing as they weren't in the Succ. Wars TR.
It might have the upgraded variants which appeared in TRO: 3050, at least originally.
If as stated it doesn't have new art I don't think so.
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2018/08/22 20:09:14
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
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Lieutenant General
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It may have the Project Phoenix artwork but Catalyst has said they will not use artwork based on designs produced out of house even if there is no legal problem in doing so. So there will be no Unseens in the tech readout.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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2018/08/22 20:22:51
Subject: Re:Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Oh, sorry I misunderstood. I thought Albertorius was referring to the unseen designs appearing in the book (as in stats and development/background/usage/notable pilots text), not the specific artwork appearing.
Yeah, like Ghaz said, PP artwork, or some of the revised artwork* would probably be used if those designs are included in this book. Considering the effort made to create new models and artwork for the unseen I hope those designs are part of this Clan Invasion book. The 3050 refits were fun!
*The "no new artwork" rule seems like it isn't set in stone ("plans may change"). I am holding out hope that the re-imagined classic designs make it in.
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2018/08/22 20:38:35
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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Ghaz wrote:It may have the Project Phoenix artwork but Catalyst has said they will not use artwork based on designs produced out of house even if there is no legal problem in doing so. So there will be no Unseens in the tech readout.
And yet, in the TRO: Succession Wars you have Locust (based on the out of house Crusher Joe anime series), Ostscout (based on the out of house Macross anime series), Griffin, Shadow Hawk, Wolverine, Thunderbolt and Battlemaster (all based on the out of house Dougram anime series).
Plus, the same artist that has done the above desings has also done a lot of Macross ones:
I was expecting Catalyst to use all of the above, as he did with the others for TRO: SW
So... yeah.
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2018/08/22 21:05:02
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
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Lieutenant General
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Albertorius wrote:And yet, in the TRO: Succession Wars you have Locust (based on the out of house Crusher Joe anime series), Ostscout (based on the out of house Macross anime series), Griffin, Shadow Hawk, Wolverine, Thunderbolt and Battlemaster (all based on the out of house Dougram anime series).
All of which have been updated and redesigned in-house. They are new designs, even if they were inspired by the original anime artwork.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
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2018/08/22 21:12:02
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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Ghaz wrote: Albertorius wrote:And yet, in the TRO: Succession Wars you have Locust (based on the out of house Crusher Joe anime series), Ostscout (based on the out of house Macross anime series), Griffin, Shadow Hawk, Wolverine, Thunderbolt and Battlemaster (all based on the out of house Dougram anime series).
All of which have been updated and redesigned in-house. They are new designs, even if they were inspired by the original anime artwork.
Then so are all the other ones, you know. That's what you meant then? When you said that "Catalyst has said they will not use artwork based on designs produced out of house even if there is no legal problem in doing so" you seemed to be implying that they would not be using any artwork based on outside sources, even if they were redesigned in-house.
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2018/08/22 21:21:51
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
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Lieutenant General
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Nope. That's you leaping to conclusions. The updated 'mechs are new designs inspired by the original anime artwork. They're no more the same design than the current Land Raider is to the original Land Raider back in 2nd edition.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
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2018/08/22 21:22:38
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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Ghaz wrote:Nope. That's you leaping to conclusions. The updated 'mechs are new designs inspired by the original anime artwork. They're no more the same design than the current Land Raider is to the original Land Raider back in 2nd edition.
...alright then. Still, maybe next time you could clarify, because "art based on design X" usually includes redesigns based on the aforementioned design X. That's what all the legal kerfuffle seemed to be about, after all.
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2018/08/22 21:58:51
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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I'm confused... are they using those designs or not?
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2018/08/22 22:10:24
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
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Lieutenant General
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No one knows exactly what will be in the book other than Catalyst, and they're not talking. What's been noted already in this thread is about all that we know for sure. There's a THREAD on the BattleTech forums if you want to read all of the speculation.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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2018/08/22 23:14:22
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
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Wicked Warp Spider
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Well, I'm stoked. Reading as many of the old books as I can and purchased a Pursuit Lance this past weekend. Does anyone know here I could buy clear acrylic hex bases to replace the huge black ones they come with?
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2018/08/22 23:55:49
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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ancientsociety wrote:Well, I'm stoked. Reading as many of the old books as I can and purchased a Pursuit Lance this past weekend. Does anyone know here I could buy clear acrylic hex bases to replace the huge black ones they come with?
https://litko.net/ sell a wide varity of bases. including clear plastic hex bases
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Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two |
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2018/08/23 00:40:17
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
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Wicked Warp Spider
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BrianDavion wrote: ancientsociety wrote:Well, I'm stoked. Reading as many of the old books as I can and purchased a Pursuit Lance this past weekend. Does anyone know here I could buy clear acrylic hex bases to replace the huge black ones they come with?
https://litko.net/ sell a wide varity of bases. including clear plastic hex bases
Cool. Any idea what size?
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2018/08/23 01:10:31
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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30mm for Battletech. Litko doesn't sell them standard though so you'll need to custom order, still, shouldn't be too bad. you'll not need very many
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Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two |
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2018/08/29 11:05:18
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
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Regular Dakkanaut
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*coughs politely*
Is there any news on this? Like a rough release date and maybe a European retailer?
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2018/09/06 20:25:57
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
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Disbeliever of the Greater Good
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General Helstrom wrote:*coughs politely*
Is there any news on this? Like a rough release date and maybe a European retailer?
Still "3rd (fiscal) quarter 2018" as far as I am aware. FantasyWelt. de has them up for pre-order. But rather oddly none of the other (English/German) usual suspects I know of do.
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2018/09/06 23:18:19
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I see this going the same way as many of the previous starter sets with minis, out of stock most of the time...
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2018/09/06 23:51:44
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Cergorach wrote:I see this going the same way as many of the previous starter sets with minis, out of stock most of the time...
Catalyst sucks. Tops really needs to get the license into someone else's hands.
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2018/09/07 00:15:13
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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DarkTraveler777 wrote:Cergorach wrote:I see this going the same way as many of the previous starter sets with minis, out of stock most of the time...
Catalyst sucks. Tops really needs to get the license into someone else's hands.
problem is that Topps only lisences the game to Catalyst because CGL wants it. I don't think anyone else is INTREASTED in the lisence. CGL is basicly a "by the fans, for the fans" type deal.
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Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two |
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2018/09/10 01:49:11
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
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Wicked Warp Spider
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Well, CGL posted this to the Battletech FB page...
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Update on Upcoming BattleTech Boxed Sets
With convention season behind us, the Catalyst team wanted to provide an update on two hotly-anticipated BattleTech products, the “BattleTech Beginner Box” and “BattleTech: A Game of Armored Combat” boxed sets.
Just before PAX West, we were surprised to learn we would not be receiving additional rush-delivered copies of the two boxed sets. What’s more, despite being in near-constant contact with the overseas manufacturer throughout August, it is clear they have not shipped the production runs as expected.
As such, we wanted to let customers and retailers alike know that the two products will not be available by the end of the third quarter of 2018 as we’d planned. While this news is as disappointing to our team as it is to you, we wanted to ensure you had the most up-to-date information possible.
We continue to work with the manufacturer to get both box sets in stores as soon as possible. Once the production run ships and clears customs, we will have a reasonable estimate for a release date of the two products.
Until then, we appreciate your patience and understanding, and your continued support of BattleTech."
*sigh*
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2018/09/10 02:31:49
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Well with the Killzones I'm buying this month, I would've had to wait anyway. *shrugs*
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2018/09/10 06:35:00
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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So... CGL is still CGL. In other news, water is still wet!
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2018/09/10 08:18:10
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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Delays sadly
Update on Upcoming BattleTech Boxed Sets
With convention season behind us, the Catalyst team wanted to provide an update on two hotly-anticipated BattleTech products, the “BattleTech Beginner Box” and “BattleTech: A Game of Armored Combat” boxed sets.
Just before PAX West, we were surprised to learn we would not be receiving additional rush-delivered copies of the two boxed sets. What’s more, despite being in near-constant contact with the overseas manufacturer throughout August, it is clear they have not shipped the production runs as expected.
As such, we wanted to let customers and retailers alike know that the two products will not be available by the end of the third quarter of 2018 as we’d planned. While this news is as disappointing to our team as it is to you, we wanted to ensure you had the most up-to-date information possible.
We continue to work with the manufacturer to get both box sets in stores as soon as possible. Once the production run ships and clears customs, we will have a reasonable estimate for a release date of the two products.
Until then, we appreciate your patience and understanding, and your continued support of BattleTech.
from facebook
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2018/09/10 22:48:16
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
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Stubborn Temple Guard
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This isn't CGL. This is China messing with the country that decided to start a trade war with them.
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2018/09/10 22:56:30
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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Mattlov wrote:
This isn't CGL. This is China messing with the country that decided to start a trade war with them.
Of course. That's why FFG has been suffering the same delays.
Oh wait. No, they haven't.
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2018/09/10 23:17:45
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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H.B.M.C. wrote:
Then again, some people still think the Clans ruined everything.
^^^THIS
I don’t normally post much anymore but it’s nice to know I’m not the only one who feels this way!
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Hodge-Podge says: Run with the Devil, Shout Satan's Might. Deathtongue! Deathtongue! The Beast arises tonight!
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2018/09/10 23:40:20
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
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Wicked Warp Spider
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Mattlov wrote:
This isn't CGL. This is China messing with the country that decided to start a trade war with them.
There is zero evidence to support that assertion
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