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I have an hour's peace from wife and kids. What do I do? Steal the new Game of Thrones from the internet? No. Grab my brushes and put the finishing touches on the chaos bikers sitting on my desk the past 2 months? No. Download porn? No. Get outside and get a breath of air? No - I do none of these things. What I do is pick up my laptop and listen to bunch of If you can't say anything nice.... --Janthkin wailing that "the game is broken and GW cares about money over rules and the rules are rubbish and we're all going to go play warmachine".

Why? Why am I wasting my time on this garbage. Every day. I feel I may have a problem. Is there like a 12 step program I can get on?

First you need to accept that the game is broken.

I had a suggestion in a recent thread, but the moderation staff did not care for it. Pity they seem to both lack a sense of humor AND wish to deny people employment aiding those in just your situation.

Internet addiction is an actual thing, though. It is the primary reason why Facebook has flourished when it really should not (looong at the actual costs contrasted with the potential benefits).

So... That said, yes, there is a 12-step group.

BUT.... That said.... 12-step groups have been found, in double-blind studies to either do no more than a placebo, or to actually exacerbate an existing problem. In terms of substance abuse issues, they actually wind up killing more people than they "save."

But that is a tough comparison to an Internet "addiction" (when you get down to it, there is no such thing as "addiction" as we define it in popular culture - there are systems of pathological dysfunction that are interrelated which we tend to call "addiction.").

I would suggest hiding your internet router and unplugging it as a solution, and set a once a week limit on online activities.

You are pretty correct about the Aspie thing, though.

People often tend to confuse me for one, but I am not really on the spectrum, I am just tremendously pedantic about a small handful of subjects, which tend to be conflated with an ASD.

Since my "profession" (what I studied in university - and am still studying) is the Cognitive Sciences, and Computational & Systems Biology, I often entertain myself with guessing who here might be "on the spectrum."

I suspect some of the mods might be, but overall, it seems to be pretty rare. I think there is a greater tendency toward OCD, which can be difficulty o separate from some Autism Spectrum Disorders.

MB

 koooaei wrote:

First you need to accept that the game is broken.

And accept the existence of other games.

You are pretty correct about the Aspie thing, though.

People often tend to confuse me for one

Oh go on.

I don't understand why you'd choose to focus on people you don't agree with, rather than pursuing the aspects of your hobby that you enjoy.

Warhammer 40k is my favourite internet drama.

 screaminskull wrote:
I have an hour's peace from wife and kids. What do I do? Steal the new Game of Thrones from the internet? No. Grab my brushes and put the finishing touches on the chaos bikers sitting on my desk the past 2 months? No. Download porn? No. Get outside and get a breath of air? No - I do none of these things. What I do is pick up my laptop and listen to bunch of aspergic pedants wailing that "the game is broken and GW cares about money over rules and the rules are rubbish and we're all going to go play warmachine".

Why? Why am I wasting my time on this garbage. Every day. I feel I may have a problem. Is there like a 12 step program I can get on?

C'Mon admit you hit the porn then binged on Dakka. The first step to healîng is admitting he truth!

In reality you should perhaps get out the and play some games at your local club. It should motivate you to get some painting done and you will realise that the noisiest Dakkanauts aren't representative of most gamers.

Work, Mrs and kids is a tricky balancing act as it is without trying to cram a few hours hobbying in. Dakka can seem like a good "gaming" alternative but is rarely more productive than any other web surfing.

I'd pop those Chaos Bikers in a tray sized box along with all the paints you need and some brushes and have it to hand so you cameo something productive when you get half an hour.

Then like me you can leave Dakka for when it is at its most beneficial i.e. Work.

12 steps

1. We have to admit we are powerless over GW crappy rules and decision
2. Come to believe there are greater games then 40k
3. Made a decision to turn our lives over to a company that cares
4.made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves
5. Admittied to God, ourselves, and to other human beings that 40k sucks
6. Were entirely ready to have GW remove our special characters from the game.
7. Humbly ask him to remove our shortcomings to our codex
8. Make a list to all the people you harmed by playing 40k, and be willing to make amends to them all
9. Make direct amends to people whenever possible, except when to do so would injur them or others
10. Continue to take personal inventory, and when we are wrong admit it
11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with gamers
12. Having had a spiritual awaking as a result with these steps, we tried to carry this message to 40k gamers

 notprop wrote:

 screaminskull wrote:
I have an hour's peace from wife and kids. What do I do? Steal the new Game of Thrones from the internet? No. Grab my brushes and put the finishing touches on the chaos bikers sitting on my desk the past 2 months? No. Download porn? No. Get outside and get a breath of air? No - I do none of these things. What I do is pick up my laptop and listen to bunch of wailing that "the game is broken and GW cares about money over rules and the rules are rubbish and we're all going to go play warmachine".

Why? Why am I wasting my time on this garbage. Every day. I feel I may have a problem. Is there like a 12 step program I can get on?

C'Mon admit you hit the porn then binged on Dakka. The first step to healîng is admitting he truth!

In reality you should perhaps get out the and play some games at your local club. It should motivate you to get some painting done and you will realise that the noisiest Dakkanauts aren't representative of most gamers.

Work, Mrs and kids is a tricky balancing act as it is without trying to cram a few hours hobbying in. Dakka can seem like a good "gaming" alternative but is rarely more productive than any other web surfing.

I'd pop those Chaos Bikers in a tray sized box along with all the paints you need and some brushes and have it to hand so you cameo something productive when you get half an hour.

Then like me you can leave Dakka for when it is at its most beneficial i.e. Work.

Maybe to him Dakka has become the porn......

@ OP: In all honesty if you actually played 40K then you would know that the game is bloody broken. Brought some AA? No? Ah well too bad because that Necron player has brought a full flying circus. Brought some serious anti-tank? No? Oh dear, well that guy has brought a Titan. Brought a gunline? Too bad, the Space Marine player is deepstriking/droppod assaulting everything.

They're all examples of the players being broken rather than the game...

 notprop wrote:
They're all examples of the players being broken rather than the game...

Nope, an example of a broken player is my friend whom plays unbound Primarch spam. Or his Legion of the Damned list which includes such niceties as: 3++ save vehicles that have guns which ignore cover, 3++ save terminators whom deny me cover saves, home brew chapter masters with rape weapons and a 3++ save and ignore cover when shooting and a homebrew Primarch that is a mountain of rape and have, yes you guessed it, a 3++ save and ignore cover when shooting. And for added gaks and giggles he sees no problem with giving that accursed save to all units without paying a point for it (I have not actually caught him out on it as I have yet to actually see the lists, but based off what he had on the field there was no way in hell he was paying for them - not that it helped him )

But yeah, try facing an entire army with the Unrelenting Spectres and Flaming ammunition (or whatever that bs is called) rule's with Imperial Guard. When most of your Infantry units rely upon cover to survive.

Oh, and this is the same friend that thinks Leman Russ Battle Tanks are OP and that I should not be bringing them to the field.

 screaminskull wrote:
I have an hour's peace from wife and kids. What do I do? Steal the new Game of Thrones from the internet? No. Grab my brushes and put the finishing touches on the chaos bikers sitting on my desk the past 2 months? No. Download porn? No. Get outside and get a breath of air? No - I do none of these things. What I do is pick up my laptop and listen to bunch of wailing that "the game is broken and GW cares about money over rules and the rules are rubbish and we're all going to go play warmachine".

Why? Why am I wasting my time on this garbage. Every day. I feel I may have a problem. Is there like a 12 step program I can get on?

Take a 2 week break from the site. Does wonders for perspective.

Posts like this may lead to a cure for your "addiction."

Original choice of wording aside, we don't encourage rant threads to rant about other people ranting.