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Angry Chaos Agitator





So I'm noticing a lot of talk about the silly rules that are in some of the units Warscrolls, pretty much spread across Dakka. I thought it might be good to make a thread showing all of these ridiculous rules and ask what people think.



So what do you think? Are you looking forward to having silly shenanigans?

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Longtime Dakkanaut






Nope........ Will just ignore these, if my opponent want sot be silly, then he can go play mario Party with his 10yr old.

I got into Fantasy/40k b.c I like Building/lists/strategies

I didnt Spend 10k$ on a silly kids game.

15k+ 12k+ 5k :Harlequin: 4k

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Regular Dakkanaut





Florida

These are the best rules ever written for any wargame. Period.

Imperial Guard  
   
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader






Originally I kinda liked the idea of them, then I played a game earlier, and now I'm just going to house rule that the conditions do not apply, or even the rule itself doesn't apply in certain cases, eg Settra and kneeling
   
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Painting Within the Lines






I am growing a mustache from today but it seems to me that those rules were created for funsies and I guess out of date characters who are unlikely to return in the long run, remember over time AoS is going to release new units and champions etc... I think this was just to show that "YOU CAN MAKE UP ANYTHING YOU WANT IN THIS GAME" its your game, play it how you want it.

I am going to create a nudist rule and each piece of clothing I take off I can bring back a dead unit

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Regular Dakkanaut







This is LARP.

   
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Hooded Inquisitorial Interrogator






Wait, so Konrad wasn't supposed to talk back before AoS....?

Oppressor wrote:You're asking the wrong question.

The correct question is, would I be enjoying this hobby if I did this?

The correct audience is you.
 
   
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Bane Thrall




The deck of the Widower

These rules are GW giving the finger to people that want to play a serious tournament game. I think they are awesome.

I have a bunch of armies, who knows the points these days? 
   
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Painting Within the Lines






 Brotherjanus wrote:
These rules are GW giving the finger to people that want to play a serious tournament game. I think they are awesome.


a new rule to include...
"middle finger of nurgle" you stick out your middle finger, if the opponent smells it and twists his face you reroll to hit on one unit, remember to keep your middle finger in your butt to get the smell deep into the fingernail.
   
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Regular Dakkanaut





Florida

I think they are hilarious. And every time I see a nerd rage about a silly game, it gives me the feel goods inside GW devs were probably laughing their butts off writing these rules. Brilliant!

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Consigned to the Grim Darkness





USA

Ridiculous, pointless jackassery, with no redeeming features. They're rules crafted assuming that people who play WHFB are nothing more than immature neckbearded manchildren.

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Sybarite Swinging an Agonizer




Charleston, SC

 Chootum wrote:
GW devs were probably laughing their butts off writing these rules.


Well this part is true at least. GW is clearly mocking their player base to their faces. It honestly surprises me how many seem to be going along with it. Before the release I had actually been looking forward to the possibility of a skirmish fantasy game (after that rumor popped up).

 
   
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Preparing the Invasion of Terra






Brisbane, Australia

I'm more surprised by the number of people who are quick to call people who enjoy or like these silly rules "mentally slowed 5 year olds"...

Multiple thin coats are always better than one thick coat.
 
   
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Sickening Carrion





On the bright side, basically every unit is viable.
   
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Manhunter




Eastern PA

good on GW. they realize they are a mini company, not a gaming company.

There ain't nearly enough Salvage in this thread!

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Shadeglass Maze

 Chootum wrote:
I think they are hilarious. And every time I see a nerd rage about a silly game, it gives me the feel goods inside GW devs were probably laughing their butts off writing these rules. Brilliant!

It will be interesting to see if it gains enough traction. Personally, I preordered the Kings of War 2.0 rules last night. I'd been waiting for GW's new fantasy ruleset, but I have fun playing friendly games without needing a completely non-balanced ruleset to remind me to, er, have fun doing so

Half the game for me is army building and planning, so a game without points or balance simply isn't for me. I don't begrudge those who like it, but I think it's wishful thinking that this experiment will actually work for GW and replace the share of the market that they are literally willingly throwing away. It could be better for it to happen now, and let other rulesets cater to any kind of competitive gaming, and GW to the "for laughs with friends only" gaming. I just can't fathom how they came to that decision from a financial perspective but only time will show the results.
   
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Sneaky Sniper Drone





Even is AoS is "for laughs with friends only," I'm not sure how you're supposed to stay friends while playing it. >_>;
   
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 Jewelfox wrote:
Even is AoS is "for laughs with friends only," I'm not sure how you're supposed to stay friends while playing it. >_>;


Are you the type of person to lose friends over Cards Against Humanity or even Monopoly? Are you going to disown family because they wave their hand across the table and utter "War"?
   
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Dogged Kum






 Amishprn86 wrote:
Nope........ Will just ignore these, if my opponent want sot be silly, then he can go play mario Party with his 10yr old.

I got into Fantasy/40k b.c I like Building/lists/strategies

I didnt Spend 10k$ on a silly kids game.




Yes, you did. Now grow up.




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Rihgu wrote:
 Jewelfox wrote:
Even is AoS is "for laughs with friends only," I'm not sure how you're supposed to stay friends while playing it. >_>;


Are you the type of person to lose friends over Cards Against Humanity or even Monopoly? Are you going to disown family because they wave their hand across the table and utter "War"?


Let's just say, I feel that this kind of defensiveness is part of the reason that we can't have nice things. ^^;
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




 RiTides wrote:
 Chootum wrote:
I think they are hilarious. And every time I see a nerd rage about a silly game, it gives me the feel goods inside GW devs were probably laughing their butts off writing these rules. Brilliant!

It will be interesting to see if it gains enough traction. Personally, I preordered the Kings of War 2.0 rules last night. I'd been waiting for GW's new fantasy ruleset, but I have fun playing friendly games without needing a completely non-balanced ruleset to remind me to, er, have fun doing so

Half the game for me is army building and planning, so a game without points or balance simply isn't for me. I don't begrudge those who like it, but I think it's wishful thinking that this experiment will actually work for GW and replace the share of the market that they are literally willingly throwing away. It could be better for it to happen now, and let other rulesets cater to any kind of competitive gaming, and GW to the "for laughs with friends only" gaming. I just can't fathom how they came to that decision from a financial perspective but only time will show the results.



What share? Fantasy has dropped from about 25% of the companies sales before 6th edition to something like 10%-13% now. Hell, PAINT sells more than fantasy by a large margin. They clearly had to do something with it so why not simply make the game fun and more accessible? You can now buy any box of fantasy models and play a fun game with someone so long as your opponent isn't a complete douche. Works for me.

As for all the Rage and anger about it being a child's game now and being ruined for serious players. I deeply apologize that your game of playing with toy dollies is no longer the serious toy dollies game you started playing with years ago. Perhaps you need to find another game involving toy dollies to play that is more serious in it's handling of playing with toy dollies.

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Topeka, KS in the Dustbowl Sector

The most beardy rule to me is "the most important rule" that takes up too much space on the 4 page rulesheet ...

That said silly rules like "he that has the biggest beard wins the roll off" from SAGA reminds me of this stuff ... but in SAGA it is a beer and pretzel game and rules are fun to read and bigger than 4 pages .

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Generalleutnant





Muslpelheim

 Melissia wrote:
Ridiculous, pointless jackassery, with no redeeming features. They're rules crafted assuming that people who play WHFB are nothing more than immature neckbearded manchildren.


Agreed on all accounts, I am pleased that WHFB is dead in my gaming circle
   
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Anti-piracy Officer






Somewhere in southern England.

Young kids love those shouting kind of rules, look at the Waagh in 40K. They can even be fun for adults if done in moderation.

I don't like them being pushed on me as an important part of a tabletop wargame, so I would ignore them in practice. The game will run fine without them.

In my view Fantasy had dropped to the point where it was no longer profitable. GW have attempted to reboot it. Their target market clearly is not the hardcore or tournament player, it is kids and super fans, and people who just want a cheap, simple game.

The US Army plays games with Toy Dollies to train commanders.

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Hellacious Havoc





Scotland

I think these types of rules pierce the core of the insularity of WFB-as-was. It was, in my experience, a game for veterans with all the exclusivity and cliquishness that accompanies certain types of historical wargames.

Games are meant to be fun and, yes, even silly at times. That said no-one is holding a gun to your head, do what you want. As Kilkrazy said; the game will run fine without them.

Also, I particularly like the Hooded Villain rule from the Great Moonclan. Re-roll warbosses hits but ... only if you are wearing a hood.

   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut






SoCal, USA!

 Melissia wrote:
Ridiculous, pointless jackassery, with no redeeming features. They're rules crafted assuming that people who play WHFB are nothing more than immature neckbearded manchildren.


I'm confused by your comment. Is GW wrong to assume that "that people who play WHFB competitively are nothing more than immature neckbearded manchildren."

GW has been anti-competitive play for quite some time now, and it's nice to see GW honestly and openly getting back to their roots of what GW wants their business and game to be.

What's surprising is how many players didn't believe GW, and are still in denial about what GW gaming is supposed to be, from a GW POV.

   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





Gig Harbor, WA

deleted rant.

I don't know why I'm continuing to pay attention to this, it just makes me angry. I'm out. WFB is dead to me.

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preston

I am not going to lie, I may play a few games of this with my close friends, basing the models chosen on scenarios.

But I doubt it will ever go beyond that. I wanted a skirmish fantasy game, but this is to big a price to pay. These rules are silly, stupid and make no bloody sense and are essentielly geared towards snotty 10 year olds and their ilk. Im going to stick with 8th and pray that GW have the sense to release 9th before WHFB finally chokes and dies..... And they do not have long left, already we can hear its death rattles.....

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/581001.page#6570095don't click this link...
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Thanks for doing this, Mysterious Pants.

Eh, these rules are pretty fun, and a particular favourite of mine is having to talk to Konrad.

However, they're just the last nail in the coffin on any semblance of seriousness in this game... Being in a GW playing a wargame in which my opponent dances and bellows "Waaaggh!" at the top of his voice (which I know people will do) is not what I play wargames for, nor my idea of fun. I'm sure people will have a laugh with these rules, and fair play to them, but I won't be joining them.

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Shadeglass Maze

JohnHwangDD - This isn't GW "getting back to its roots", rather, it's their new direction. I don't begrudge them it - I will just play Kings of War.

It will be interesting to see how it works out for them, but generally throwing away market share isn't a wise move financially . Fantasy needed a reboot, but their new game has a much narrower target audience. I'll be curious how many people actually stick with it and purchase hundreds or thousands of dollars of models like they do for 40k, or just treat it as a diversion. Financially and with the lack of points / restrictions, GW is clearly aiming for the former... but with no balance I think people will enjoy it as a fun/crazy distraction but not something to really invest in.

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