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Flying egg beaters that can deliver your washing machine coffin/cyborg warriors and your jump infantry into combat from space or somewhere thereabouts.

At that point, you just have to decide if the rules are worth using the model for, ugly as it is. I feel the Stormpelican is a bit heavy in the beak, but it can hold a lot of fish.


I'm extremely eager to create a pelican paint job for this model.

I really want to do create a different version of the stormraven. A Huey style, dual top rotor version with vectored engines. I was thinking of even using the drop pod turbines as the basis for it.

This model is RIDICULOUSLY AWESOME! I want to build this right now and completely kit it out. This model is the shiz! I don't understand why everyone thinks it looks so bad. It looks more bad ass than any other kit on the shelf to me. Imagine the optional weapons and magnetizing them so you can swap them out.

I hope other space marine armies can't use these. That would be B.S. Give Blood Angels players something like orbital bombardment or chapter tactics with as many options for a list as the space marine codex and maybe we would hand over the schematics of the Storm Raven to the tech priests of mars, but I doubt it.

Wow. Channel Black Blow Fly much?

Too might've had too much sugar and/or caffeine.

Or he just watched a lot of Beavis and B-head episodes in a row.

Destrado wrote:Too might've had too much sugar and/or caffeine.

Or he just watched a lot of Beavis and B-head episodes in a row.

Yeah, but he does have a bit of a point. The thing is so ugly, I feel compelled to make it look decent.

Jackmojo wrote:

MikeMcSomething wrote:
I'm pointing out the absurdity of acting like that model will somehow NOT look like it's picture, and you're uhh...I don't know really.

I've seen lots of pictures of new cars that I thought were ugly until I saw them in person, pictures (especially foreshortened three-quarters views) can mislead as to relative dimensions quite a lot.

This shot of an F-14 makes it appear as if its wildly stubby and half cockpit for example:


And this shot of the XF-85 goblin is equally misleading, since it fools the eye into thinking it isn't as stubby as it actually is:


So yeah, I'm waiting till I see many more pictures, and even then final judgment will be based on its looks in person.

Jack

EXTREMELY good point. I really hope you are right and it's just an angle thing. I however am not so optimistic, but I can hope it's just an angle thing.

Perhaps The Stormraven wears it's ugliness like a badge of honor, like the A-10 "Warthog". It could be so ugly it's great looking.

I like how youre thinking Brass Scorpion!

well my verdict-
stormpelican.

I want to see it with a dread attached before i judge. Maybe it will look less front heavy.

I like it. Plus people may say "Oh it's unbalanced" But the back is where the dreadnought goes, which would balance it back out. If it was bulky at the back, then there would be no-where for the dreadnought to go; use common sense people!

yes, but what GW should have done is put a back end on it, following the shape of the hull, but have no back panel, so the dread can still go in the back and it won't look like a pelican or a fish...

Honestly I don't like the model. It's not at all what I was expecting really.

Personally I'm also in the wanting to see more shots before I judge group. One thing though it looks like if you look at the v bottom of the Stormraven to the right of the Sargent but before the tac marine I think I can see an anti-gravity plate that looks like the land speeder one.. wishful thinking? maybe but if it is what I think it is all the "it wouldn't fly" comments no longer apply. although the location of the up thrusters is a bit odd *from that angle* but heck with an anti grav plate who knows?

metal slug anyone??? lol

MrNurgle wrote:I like it. Plus people may say "Oh it's unbalanced" But the back is where the dreadnought goes, which would balance it back out. If it was bulky at the back, then there would be no-where for the dreadnought to go; use common sense people!

Well I was the first person to say ""unbalanced..." but my argument has been that in being unbalanced, even if a dreadnought balances it we shouldn't be required to buy a dreadnought to complete it. That with little work it could have both looked balanced without the dreadnought and be able to carry a dreadnought.

aka_mythos wrote:That with little work it could have both looked balanced without the dreadnought and be able to carry a dreadnought.

With a door, for example. So that your honoured veteran doesn't have to sit outside the vehicle during reentry.

That might be a little hard to pull off, given the size of the dread. Plus, the fluff says it's carried outside...

Right, stormpelican.
But remember it can transport a Dread.

I think the model is really good. I prefer the idea of having troops on the battlefield above anything else so I'll have as few tanks/transports as possible. But if this is a necessary purchase, I won't be disappointed to have to fork out.

It has the glide path of a brick, but like my Grand-daddy use to say, "If you put a big enough engine on it, you can make a barn-door fly."

Well the engine has to be connected to a propulsion system otherwise you've just duck taped a engine to a door and everyone will lol at you.

At this point, I'm actually starting to think this model isn't so bad... I'm actually starting to ... like it?!?

Well, it will still need a few changes, but not as many as I feared at first!

Well the engine has to be connected to a propulsion system

While that makes it look more convincing, in Warhammer style always wins over substance. Ever notice how the exhausts for the Land Speeder have compressor blades showing in them? In a real jet engine those are toward the front and the exhaust area looks "empty", but I guess the designers at GW thought it looked better with some detail in it so there you go. The Drop Pod has the same issues. Other models have these kinds of "problems" too. It's 40K and it's what everyone's come to expect at this point. If people want accurate, historical models then Warhammer is the wrong model range to be collecting. When I want to see cool real aircraft, I go to an airshow or the Air & Space Museum. My 40K models provide something else in the way of entertainment entirely.

BrassScorpion wrote:

Well the engine has to be connected to a propulsion system

While that makes it look more convincing, in Warhammer style always wins over substance. Ever notice how the exhausts for the Land Speeder have compressor blades showing in them? In a real jet engine those are toward the front and the exhaust area looks "empty", but I guess the designers at GW thought it looked better with some detail in it so there you go. The Drop Pod has the same issues. Other models have these kinds of "problems" too. It's 40K and it's what everyone's come to expect at this point. If people want accurate, historical models then Warhammer is the wrong model range to be collecting. When I want to see cool real aircraft, I go to an airshow or the Air & Space Museum. My 40K models provide something else in the way of entertainment entirely.

Here here.....

BrassScorpion wrote:

Well the engine has to be connected to a propulsion system

While that makes it look more convincing, in Warhammer style always wins over substance. Ever notice how the exhausts for the Land Speeder have compressor blades showing in them? In a real jet engine those are toward the front and the exhaust area looks "empty", but I guess the designers at GW thought it looked better with some detail in it so there you go. The Drop Pod has the same issues. Other models have these kinds of "problems" too. It's 40K and it's what everyone's come to expect at this point. If people want accurate, historical models then Warhammer is the wrong model range to be collecting. When I want to see cool real aircraft, I go to an airshow or the Air & Space Museum. My 40K models provide something else in the way of entertainment entirely.

That's pretty much all true, but I think many folks (certainly including myself) see the Stormraven as utterly failing in "Warhammer style" (as well, obviously, in function). Assuming I look for a Stormraven for my own Blood Angels, I'll definitely be going with a scratch-build based on one any of the home-rolled designs out there. IMHO, just comparing GW's official model (at least in the one picture we've seen so far) with what's out there already on the hobbyist side of the house shows how completely GW missed the mark on both...

A lot of GW's unrealistic models "work" for me since they fit in GW's design ethos and make you say (assuming you've bought into their vision of the grim darkness of the far future), "Hey, that's cool...". The Leman Russ has a stupidly unworkable suspension system, but it pulls off the "WWI-meets-SciFi" look fairly well. It's, by my admittedly loose definition, "cool". I don't need realism in my 40k figures (although it's nice when they can at least tip their hat in that direction from time to time), but I -again within GW design ethos- do need "cool".

Bottom line, GW's Stormraven doesn't make me say, "Wow... That's cool".

Valete,

JohnS

Alpharius wrote:At this point, I'm actually starting to think this model isn't so bad... I'm actually starting to ... like it?!?

Well, it will still need a few changes, but not as many as I feared at first!

It has potential, and getting it will certainly make kit bashing easier than trying to marry up completely different sets. On its own from what I've seen of it, its the worst assembled thing to date in the Astartes armoury, no doubt each forgeworld with access to this STC will be producing its own variation.

Actually I think it's only the BA and potentially the GK which have access to it, at least at the moment anyway. It only appears in the BA codex ATM and in the fluff points out that GK have been known to use it and so there is a good possibility that they will get it also. As for the rest of the SM chapters, unless there is some serious retconning I don't see them getting it at all.

Although it would be interesting to see what they get for this 'flyers' expansion due in the summer.

All signs point towards the SR being made available to ALL SM Chapters on or shortly after its release.

GW would be foolish indeed to NOT do this, via WD or some other format...