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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/11 20:11:15
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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My order arrived in Richmond VA but won't be able to check it out for a couple more hours. I ordered:
185
12 ranks
4x gynnade krigare
3x helsvakt horde
1x varp krigare
1x helsrider1
1x helsrider2
1x helsrider3
1x dire wolves
10 characters
belegast
blutulf
the keeper
red olga
guarthagust
ulbrecht
guarthagust
ulbrecht
helsrider 4
plus
conradt normal and crazed
morgrimm normal and crazed
yrsa and fenris
svetlana
Automatically Appended Next Post: Got my figures, they are amazing. Drooling over them currently.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/10 18:23:30
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Dakka Veteran
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Today I received the first part of my (quite large $300+) pledge! I was totally excited as I inspected the part. Here are my thoughts about it.
First things first. The package of the items is so-so, and as I first opened it I was a bit disappointed. Everything packed in zip-lock bags, but not nearly enough padding to protect the items from bouncing around in transit. But despite this, no major damage to the figures at all. A few minor breakage to spikes but nothing else. So, to sum it up, Tre could spend a little extra to make sure a safer transit, but the material is strong enough to survive the voyage across the ocean.
I basically pledged for several copies of everything. In this package, though, I didn't receive Belegast, Robert, Gynnade Krigare, Aenglish Watch, Helsvakt Hordesmen, Varp Krigare or the Kickstarter exclusive Svetlana. What I first noticed was the different colours of the material. There are 5 different compound it appears. 1 very light grey, 1 light grey, 1 medium grey, 1 dark grey, and 1 dark grey with a very shining hue to it. Wierd. But it also appears that the material is more stiff/hard depending on what colour it has. Or at least that is how I perceive it. The ligher colour is more forgiving to bending while the darker is more hard. But regardless of this, how it appears to hold detail is really no difference. The material holds details incredible well, and I would even dare to say that it's superior to metal in this aspect (yes, I got lots of the HelsVakt in metal as well!). The edges are sharp and clean and all the tiny details are visible and incredible solid. This material is everything Tre has promised it to be regarding this aspect. While I suspect it being fragile, it is noticibly stronger than resin. Of course, it will not survive a long fall, but it should survive if you dropped them from table-height. Of course, some damage might be done to it if you manage to make it land on a spike or similar.
Regarding the casting, though. The figures WILL require quite a bit of cleaning. Flash, venting, etc. are common and quite often on "bad spots" (like in the face). The zombies, in particular, appear to suffer more from this. The horses, which were delayed due to quality control isn't that bad. While it bothers me if I flip the horses over and lay them on back, I will never, ever, notice it while they stand as normally. If this is where Tre draw the line, his standard is far above mine. Anyway, while most of the figures will require cleaning, it is a bit of a larger issue (in my opinion) with Tre's slender figures than with your average heroic figure. Anyway, expect a lot of cleaning to do and expect it to be done on vital parts of the figure. But not everything is having these issues. Morgrimn and Conradt are basically ready to go out of the zip-lock bag. Whistelocke is also of awesome quality. So some are worse than other. All in all, this isn't a big issue and while requiring time to fix it's easier than with metal. Usually it's just a matter of scraping it off.
Morgrimn and Conradt, in particular, are frikkin' awesome figures. Tre's superior sculpting skills really shines here (as the figures appeal to my style). These four figures (wait form and warp form) are quickly growing on me and I get a wierd sensation as I look at them. They are awesome. I cannot speak enough good things about them. The poses, the detailing, the muscles, everything is close to perfect in my opinion. While they also in the same time are slightly larger than what Tre normally does, I can only hope that RBG will take a few steps closer towards a bigger scale, as it really allows Tre to shine. This, indeed, would attract a lot of new supporters to RBG!
All-in-all, despite a few negative aspects, this KS is a big success thus far for me, and while I feared that the Trollcast material wouldn't be as good as I had hoped for it to be, I must admit that I love it! I hope Trollforge can get around their issues, expand on their productions and get cleaner casts in the end, because RBG + Trollcast material = awesomeness!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/10 18:47:15
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Fixture of Dakka
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Glad to hear the Trollcast worked out well! And really glad you included the following sentence: grefven wrote:These four figures (wait form and warp form) are quickly growing on me and I get a wierd sensation as I look at them. I am so happy for you
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/10 21:20:49
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Dakka Veteran
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Wehrkind wrote:Glad to hear the Trollcast worked out well!
And really glad you included the following sentence:
grefven wrote:These four figures (wait form and warp form) are quickly growing on me and I get a wierd sensation as I look at them.
I am so happy for you 
We all need to come out at one point or another...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/10 21:29:04
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Fixture of Dakka
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"Of Closets and Kick-Starters: How One Man's Models Changed Another Man's Life."
Life Time Movie of the Week.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/10 23:57:19
Subject: Re:Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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UPDATE EMAIL:
Project Update #59: Update #59.......Still Waiting
Posted by tre manor
Hello All,
Again I have to report that fulfillment is at a stand still. I am still waiting for the items needed to resume shipping orders. I have ordered the Gynnade Krigare weapons in metal from Valiant and the shipment is en route to me right now and expected to be delivered on Monday. At that point we will be able to resume shipping again. ED and crew are working on casting the rest of the parts needed to completely fulfill all outstanding KS orders but it will take time. Fortunately Ed has informed me that he has completed the casting for ALL of the Gynnade Krigare. So we at least have that obstacle down. The other items as I understand are somewhat easier to cast so hopefully the rest of what is needed will be along soon.
In terms of the work still needing to be completed for fulfillment that means we are still awaiting.............
Aenglish footmen 230 bodies ( each ) 375 sprues of heads, 375 sprues of weapons, 375 sprues of shields.
Robert 230
Whistelock 175
Yrsa 275
Keeper 30
fenris 280
Morgrimn waiting 90
Conradt waiting 200
conradt warp 325
Guarthagust 145
Ulbrecht 55
Varp A 185
Varp C 150
Varp D 20
Undead 625 total sets though the individual numbers vary from part to part
Hordesmen 450 legs ( each ) 450 torsos ( each ) 435 head sprues, 1200 weapon sprues.
This will still be a long time coming. I wish like hell that I could get this resolved faster but I can only ship what I have in hand. We are packing and shipping as we are able. Orders are handled on the basis of what we have available so it may seem a bit hap-hazard as to who gets their orders and who does not but it does simply come down to what we have at the time.
I understand that many of you are very disappointed in me for the way that this Kickstarter has been handled. I can only say that I am truly very sorry and that should you see fit to back any of my future projects, I assure you that you won't be let down a second time.
I will be launching a second ( well third actually ) Kickstarter in the next couple of weeks to fund the development of totally new product in metal with the help of three different well established metal production partners. Thsi new effort will hopefully see through the production of new Dwarves ( Dvergr ) the Goblin Footmen and Wolf Riders, Modular Orcs, Modular Elf footmen ( Aelfar ) and New Njorn ( Norse Humans ). It is my hope that through this next effort I can make some way to mending my reputation and salvaging my business. No effort will be spared to make that happen.
Sincerely,
Tre'
Can someone on his forums tell Tre' for the love of God not to start any more fething kickstarters until this one is complete? It'll be just as "successful" as the second one... THIS sort of gak is what's the most disappointing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 15:31:47
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
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Man, I'm a big fan but it is depressing as hell how long this has been dragging on for. I imagine Tre must be incredibly frustrated, not to mention the people whose product is months late now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/05 00:59:46
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
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Are the new minis from these kickstarters ever going to be available on his website? Or is RBG doing kickstarter-only presales now?
(If it's the latter, it's a shame.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/05 07:28:13
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Dakka Veteran
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The miniatures from the latest "orc/goblin" KS will most likely be available on the RBG website later. The HelsVakt and other figures that were released in TrollCast material will not be sold in that material. RBG couldn't afford the TC material and TrollForge isn't just big enough currently to handle all its commitments, so the only way for RBG to make some profit again is to move back once more to metal, with the ultimate goal to start making the casts in-house.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/23 06:01:04
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Plastictrees
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Just received my KS1 this week.
I haven't had a chance to go over everything in incredible detail, but so far:
Sculpts are, unsurprisingly, excellent.
The material seems good. I wouldn't say that it's noticeably superior to other resins. Maybe more durable, but it doesn't seem to handle thin items like swords especially well.
The casting is solid to poor. The horse undersides are well known. Some very poor mold line locations. The biggest issues I've noticed are bubbles or under pours (?), on the marauders hands. Resculpting will be required in several cases.
Overall, happy with my purchase but disappointed that it wasn't the first step to something bigger that Tre had hoped.
I'm now glad that Imbrian Arts switched away from TrollForged and that I sold my AssimilationAH pledge. I can't help but feel that Tre was a test run for Ed that Tre paid for in more ways than one.
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