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Hilarious, maelific lords go from 30 to 80 a 50 point increase and 167% meanwhile Guilliman only goes up by 25 or 7.6%.... Gulliman needs either a 100 point increase or a 10th wound, a small increase while most other things went down means we are pretty much still at square 1. I want him to be good, just not idiotic like he is now.

 Red Corsair wrote:
Hilarious, maelific lords go from 30 to 80 a 50 point increase and 167% meanwhile Guilliman only goes up by 25 or 7.6%.... Gulliman needs either a 100 point increase or a 10th wound, a small increase while most other things went down means we are pretty much still at square 1. I want him to be good, just not idiotic like he is now.

Right, 90 points of maelific lords could have wiped Guilliman out in a single phase...

Those things were so brutally under-costed it was beyond ridiculous.

 theharrower wrote:

 Melissia wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
So did anyone have a full run-up of the current known points changes, or is it still all rumors?

The only confirmed one is the Malefic.

Thanks. Well, guess it's time to keep waiting.

It's all accurate. I flipped through the book myself.

Going to give any more information there, Chief?

I wouldn't ask for specifics but have tau dropped in points especially?

 djones520 wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
Hilarious, maelific lords go from 30 to 80 a 50 point increase and 167% meanwhile Guilliman only goes up by 25 or 7.6%.... Gulliman needs either a 100 point increase or a 10th wound, a small increase while most other things went down means we are pretty much still at square 1. I want him to be good, just not idiotic like he is now.

Right, 90 points of maelific lords could have wiped Guilliman out in a single phase...

Those things were so brutally under-costed it was beyond ridiculous.

Glad you entirely missed the point. Clearly there was no other amount they could increase cost by in either case. Good job mate!

 Cephalobeard wrote:

 theharrower wrote:

 Melissia wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
So did anyone have a full run-up of the current known points changes, or is it still all rumors?

The only confirmed one is the Malefic.

Thanks. Well, guess it's time to keep waiting.

It's all accurate. I flipped through the book myself.

Going to give any more information there, Chief?

Hand Flamers are 3 pts and Infernus Pistols are 9 pts. Those were listed under Sisters of Battle though so not sure if Blood Angels will get them at the same cost. Blood Angels and Dark Angels points weren't in there. I would assume since the new Codexes will be out and everything will be costed there. Librarian with a Jump Pack is 110 (I think). Not really much more to add. I was mostly concerned with points for Space Marines since I play Blood Angels.

Any point increases on characters other than Guilliman and Celestine harrower?

 ultimentra wrote:
Any point increases on characters other than Guilliman and Celestine harrower?

Heck, I've got an even more basic question:

Are GK point changes even in the book?

 ultimentra wrote:
Any point increases on characters other than Guilliman and Celestine harrower?

Cawl is supposed to, my guess is most of the index characters drop since they are all currently a bit steep.

Tau points changes?

Sorry guys. I was on that page, but not really focused on other armies. There were point changes for FW and I'm pretty sure other factions were listed. Sorry I can't get more specific. :(


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I know there was some Death Guard adjustments and I did see RG and Celestine. Didn't see any other characters. I did notice that the Warhound Titan was up 500 points.

wow, Warhound up 500 points. That's just silly. It's good, but not that good.

Tyranid Malanthrope is going up to 120points from the original 90points. Granted this has now shifted it away from its almost "auto include" status.

 Overread wrote:
Tyranid Malanthrope is going up to 120points from the original 90points. Granted this has now shifted it away from its almost "auto include" status.

Really? I heard it was 140.

Yes you're right, I hit the wrong button!

 theharrower wrote:
Sorry guys. I was on that page, but not really focused on other armies.

By other armies you mean other than blood angels? Or other than Sisters of Battle?
Any other point changes for Sisters?

Anyone who got a peek see anything about Adeptus Mechanicus?

 ph34r wrote:
Anyone who got a peek see anything about Adeptus Mechanicus?

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bb5U_nflpU2/

Source: FTGT Evan on FB

 pretre wrote:

 ph34r wrote:
Anyone who got a peek see anything about Adeptus Mechanicus?

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bb5U_nflpU2/

Thanks pretre!

Bummed that Harlequins got cut off in the picture.

I am so mad. How are plague marines 17 points but rubrics are 18 before equipment? Plague are better in every way. And no fix two the sorcerer issue about if you need to pay for him separate in CSM? Wow

 rollawaythestone wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 ph34r wrote:
Anyone who got a peek see anything about Adeptus Mechanicus?

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bb5U_nflpU2/

Thanks pretre!

Bummed that Harlequins got cut off in the picture.

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/23795083_2041527996093002_4343923057556379106_n.jpg?oh=2c29c20f8b996abd564748b650f53e71&oe=5A94845A
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https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/23794997_2041528466092955_8817430083567018412_n.jpg?oh=26891af977f320be878ea9d471cf3944&oe=5AD3ADED
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/23795500_2041528629426272_1254081872999303629_n.jpg?oh=b949b90236a928097eb4413ea234dced&oe=5A9E0F22
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Source: FTGT Evan on FB

 rollawaythestone wrote:

Bummed that Harlequins got cut off in the picture.

Yeah, that was what interested me the most apart from the Asuryani changes.

Edit: Thanks pretre!

Cheers!

Well I guess its something. Caresses went down to 7 pts (-2) and Kisses went down to 9 (-5). The Death Jester at 60 pts (-15) is still not worth it in the least IMO.

So Celestine cost the same, 250 points, but the Superiora are Cheaper and Celestine more expensive? Nice! I always played her with Genevieve and Eleanor so not change for me!

Sad to see power swords going up in points

 theharrower wrote:

 Cephalobeard wrote:

 theharrower wrote:

 Melissia wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
So did anyone have a full run-up of the current known points changes, or is it still all rumors?

The only confirmed one is the Malefic.

Thanks. Well, guess it's time to keep waiting.

It's all accurate. I flipped through the book myself.

Going to give any more information there, Chief?

Hand Flamers are 3 pts and Infernus Pistols are 9 pts. Those were listed under Sisters of Battle though so not sure if Blood Angels will get them at the same cost. Blood Angels and Dark Angels points weren't in there. I would assume since the new Codexes will be out and everything will be costed there. Librarian with a Jump Pack is 110 (I think). Not really much more to add. I was mostly concerned with points for Space Marines since I play Blood Angels.

Did you see how MUCH Celestine went up?

ERJAK wrote:
Did you see how MUCH Celestine went up?

I think they went with the elegant solution to that problem for Celestine.

Astropaths for 30p without Wargear! Wow for all the ones saying that Smite-spam wasn't a problem! And Conscripts 4ppm : Personally I believe that with the three nerfs (Max unit 30, orders on a 4+ and commisar nerf) was enough.

Necrons points please :(

I don't see any changes whatsoever to points for Tau or Necrons in those scans, not including FW nerfs.

Conscripts up to 4 points. Lol they went from the best infantry option to worthless for AM players in less than half year.