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For some strange reason the renders remind me of prodos products… tacky and crude concepts. Looking at the zombicides I have here this one falls so short of what could have been such a cool zombicide in space… its not even funny. So we got another spacehulk wannabee with nothing interesting.

Ithe art form homages this time seem to be poorly blurred or filtered versions of real celebrity faces rather than art that looks
similar to the inspiration

 carlos13th wrote:
Ithe art form homages this time seem to be poorly blurred or filtered versions of real celebrity faces rather than art that looks
Is similarly to the inspiration


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The art for the homages this time seem to be poorly blurred or filtered versions of real celebrity faces rather than art that looks
Is similarly to the inspiration

I think that comes from Adrian Smith being an artist and trying to make these look lifelike while the older art was cartoonish.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Gallahad wrote:
The new guy is a big upgrade. I hope that they are asked to remove all their homage figures. I just think they are mostly tacky, and not a good fit for the darker tone of Z:Invader.

Why would you hope that?

If you don't want to like it then that's fine. You can choose not to use them. But why would you actively hope that they are unable to produce these things? That's absurd.

Because then they get swapped for things that are better designed and visually fit with the setting, creating a more cohesive visual experience.

Karl Kopinski box sculpted by Patrick Masson - you don't see many sci-fi kids

sticking with the $15 for 6 minis nice - I'm guessing these are cheaper as they are KS exclusive and won't have retail packing.





If the renders look odd it's because they aren't renders Patrick Masson is a traditional sculptor and someone has recoloured has sculpts for the images.

I really like them, but just like the Kabuki gang, they look like characters from the game I wish they’d made.

First minis I like for this project. Traditional sculpting all the way!

Another unusual entry, but I like them. And I really like the $15 price point.

And I heartily second the cheer for including a traditional sculptor in this project. I'm not against digital sculpts / sculptors, but I would like to see more hand-sculpts in the mix here.

They look good!

Ill echo what @Monkeyballistic said.

Portal sentry turret

The IRIS is a very different Sentry Gun in the game. This is a rogue machine, and it has some very particular mechanics. First of all, it is not deployed during setup as your Sentry Gun for that Mission. No, you use one of the other Sentry Guns normally. The IRIS has Xeno spawn cards, similar to an Abomination, and when its card is drawn, the Sentry Gun is deployed and all Abominations get an extra activation. From then on, the Sentry Gun acts very much like a Xeno, trying to attack the Survivors during the Xenos' Phase. HOWEVER, if a Survivor has the Sentry Gun Remote token or skill, they are able to also control the IRIS Sentry Gun to attack the Xenos during the Players' Phase! The IRIS doesn't receive an Activation token, so it's never attacked by Xenos. It is indeed a very confused machine.

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
I really like them, but just like the Kabuki gang, they look like characters from the game I wish they’d made.

Hmm, let’s see, just with these 2 boxes you got 2x the Survivors you need to play, what is missing?

I honestly can't believe the negatives on this KS, I am happy so far, Great new ideas, nice minis from a variety of styles and on top I can use many of the minis in other games!
And please remember, if you don’t like it, don’t pledge and move on...

 AAN wrote:

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
I really like them, but just like the Kabuki gang, they look like characters from the game I wish they’d made.

Hmm, let’s see, just with these 2 boxes you got 2x the Survivors you need to play, what is missing?

I honestly can't believe the negatives on this KS, I am happy so far, Great new ideas, nice minis from a variety of styles and on top I can use many of the minis in other games!
And please remember, if you don’t like it, don’t pledge and move on...

The sentence you quoted from me literally starts with “I really like them...”

How dare I be so negative!

It was a general remark...


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I also get the impression that many on this board think that you can change a lot once a KS started.
IMO it is more like an oceanliner, once on course it is a bit difficult to change course.
And why would CMON change a hugely overpledged KS? Maybe it appeals to some?

Zombicide: reference invader


I like everything about preacher Karl though (except for the skirt)

Has it always been that way with the previous Zombicides?
I haven`t played any of them yet, but I`m thinking about getting Black Plague

 AAN wrote:
It was a general remark...


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I also get the impression that many on this board think that you can change a lot once a KS started.
IMO it is more like an oceanliner, once on course it is a bit difficult to change course.
And why would CMON change a hugely overpledged KS? Maybe it appeals to some?

I can’t talk for everyone, but for me being vocal it hopefully will help them see what we are looking for and improve with the next offering. I’m not going to the comments section of the KS because of all the people that just hang out and talk about breakfast or unicorns. If they don’t bother checking out other online sources for comments then them as I have plenty of great figs from them I can use and plenty more that just add to the mountain of shame.

As to why they would change a hugely successful KS? It’s simple. BRAND. They have a great brand awareness with the Zombicide name, they leveraged it with this non-zombie game to draw in sales, but are they progressing to the same level as previous Zombicide? I doubt as of right now that they will get the sales post KS during the pledgemanager as any of the other seasons. This really just looks like a new crew was given the reigns of control and told your in charge of the space version . They are going through the motions of all the other seasons, but there isn’t a solid draw yet. I’ve been tempted to buy multiple copies of other seasons to get extras of the models I really like, but nothing here has really grabbed me. Rising sun almost got me just for Godzilla. Green Horde got me for the rest of my Monty Python crew and the giants, trebuchet oh and Dragon . They will make big $$$ but not nearly the same as previous Zombicides.

 DaveC wrote:
Karl Kopinski box sculpted by Patrick Masson - you don't see many sci-fi kids

sticking with the $15 for 6 minis nice - I'm guessing these are cheaper as they are KS exclusive and won't have retail packing.





If the renders look odd it's because they aren't renders Patrick Masson is a traditional sculptor and someone has recoloured has sculpts for the images.

Spoiler:

These would make nice Juves for Necromunda. Are you allowed to get add ons only or do you have to get the base pledge?

I doubt CMON cares about Dakka, since they're going after the boardgame audience (and the BGG threads are more organized). However, with GH making 5M and Invader trending towards 3M, that's a definite drop in funding for the Z franchise. Will CMON blame sf? Will CMON bring back the original artist and art direction? Or has Zombicide finally worn out boardgamer interest without CMON finding its next "big" franchise? Massive Darkness wasn't as well received, at least for its campaign rules. CMON may be hoping Song of Ice and Fire will be a major line, or at least a way into retail stores. At least they have their own name as a major brand of miniatures and boardgames for the boardgamer market.

 Smokestack wrote:


These would make nice Juves for Necromunda. Are you allowed to get add ons only or do you have to get the base pledge?

No add ons without at least the $100 civilian pledge only way around that is to find someone that is backing and is willing to get the add on for you.

Booo!

Honestly like everything about this KS so far, though the original Abomination leaves something to be desired. That's fine though as we have a few others now anyway.

Seems to be a lot of people in the KS comments who whinge about xx mini not being in theme or necessary, and are certain that the things they want to see are money makers.

Personally I'm content to see what CMON come up with. They know what they're doing.

ced1106 wrote:
I doubt CMON cares about Dakka, since they're going after the boardgame audience (and the BGG threads are more organized). However, with GH making 5M and Invader trending towards 3M, that's a definite drop in funding for the Z franchise. Will CMON blame sf? Will CMON bring back the original artist and art direction? Or has Zombicide finally worn out boardgamer interest without CMON finding its next "big" franchise? Massive Darkness wasn't as well received, at least for its campaign rules. CMON may be hoping Song of Ice and Fire will be a major line, or at least a way into retail stores. At least they have their own name as a major brand of miniatures and boardgames for the boardgamer market.

All interesting questions. Personally, although I like the look of a lot of what I’ve seen, this KS launched just as I received the first part of my Green Horde pledge. So, I’m looking at it all thinking, “it’s nice, but I just got a Zombicide game”. Maybe their timing could have been better?

I think that's a good point.

ced1106 wrote:
I doubt CMON cares about Dakka, since they're going after the boardgame audience (and the BGG threads are more organized). However, with GH making 5M and Invader trending towards 3M, that's a definite drop in funding for the Z franchise. Will CMON blame sf? Will CMON bring back the original artist and art direction? Or has Zombicide finally worn out boardgamer interest without CMON finding its next "big" franchise? Massive Darkness wasn't as well received, at least for its campaign rules. CMON may be hoping Song of Ice and Fire will be a major line, or at least a way into retail stores. At least they have their own name as a major brand of miniatures and boardgames for the boardgamer market.

In business you don’t ignore a market share even if it’s a tangent market. They know people have bought their games to use in other systems, and it’s probably why some look so good for other systems too. They probably DO spend more time on BGG, but if you only listen to one segment of your customer base then your doomed for failure.

I don't know what the other Zombicide campaigns felt like as I didn't back them, but this one sure feels slow and boring for the funding level and number of backers. Most of the stretch goals just feel really ho-hum, with the bright spots being few and far between. Hopefully CMON looks at the numbers and adds something "must have" to the campaign. Things like the orphan and Kabuki gangs are nice, but if for some reason CMON had to backpedal and not release them, I just wouldn't really miss them that much or feel much of a sting.

Green Horde got a dragon near the end. I’m guessing they’ve got something lined up for Invader.

 -Loki- wrote:
Green Horde got a dragon near the end. I’m guessing they’ve got something lined up for Invader.

Green horde had a dragon from the get go which was exclusive. The second dragon from green horde is part of an expansion and not exclusive. So the GH was drawing people in with a big bad dragon from the start and got a huge bump from the add on second dragon extra purchase later. Unless they come out with an add on ‘Alien’ aliens set, I don’t think we will see a massive surge.

True an Alien or Starship Trooper based set could help...

 AAN wrote:
True an Alien or Starship Trooper based set could help...

Or Alien colonial marine APC

They're probably debating RIGHT NOW how many mouths to put on the next alien's scrotal sac.

ced1106 wrote:
They're probably debating RIGHT NOW how many mouths to put on the next alien's scrotal sac.

I hope it's a lot. I really like that nasty thing.

Haters gon' hate.