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Made in gb
Revving Ravenwing Biker




England

This is coming from a semi-argument on another forum.
I thought this wasn't possible because of the "replace all weapons with..." wording on the Lightning Claws/Thunder Hammer options, and now also because of the Terminator Heavy Weapons list starting with "replace Storm Bolter with..." suggesting that you needed a Storm Bolter to start with even if it says you get to keep it later on.
He was saying that the "replace all weapons" wording means that those options replace all the stock weapons (the Storm Bolter and Power Fist) and that because the CML doesn't replace the SB, not having one in the first place doesn't matter.

Anyone care to weigh in?

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Made in ca
Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker





Ottawa, Canada

In the new codex you can have a storm bolter and CML - there is a rule even for allowing to fire both in the shooting phase.

But you can't have a TH/SS and CML anymore.

I don't have the codex on me, but I know this since I already have plans to rip the CML off one of my TH/SS models because of this.
   
Made in gb
Executing Exarch






Discussed at length when the new Codex came in. Here's a link to a previous thread

The argument of "replace all weapons" meaning "replace all stock weapons" is bokum, your friend is adding wording that simply isn't there - "all weapons" means all weapons.

The only way you might get away with it is the "take the TH/SS first, then upgrade with CML because even though the list says 'replace storm bolter' is also says 'doesn't replace storm bolter' later on...", but even then expect arguments every other game.

I'm of the opinion that it isn't an option anymore, despite GW flip-flopping on the issue with FAQ's throughout the lift of the 6th edition DA codex. Which is a pain for those that had modelled one (but I'm happy being able to take TH/SS sergeants again!).
   
Made in gb
Revving Ravenwing Biker




England

Alright, thank you. That's honestly what I thought.
I suppose how I could see that you might get an opponent to agree to it but it seems just as RAW-banned as I thought.
Will try to break this to him now.

Don't believe me? It's all in the numbers.
Number 1: That's terror.
Number 2: That's terror.
Dark Angels/Angels of Vengeance combo - ???? - Input wanted! 
   
 
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