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Update: KM have recently released both a Spiderman and Marvel Universe miniatures game, feel free to discuss those here as well!

Seems to have been a spike in interest in this game recently, at least in the P&M section, so I figured we ought to have a general discussion thread for it. Nothing specific, so go wild with game talk, mini discussion/showing off, proposed rules and anything else you fancy discussing about the Batman Miniatures Game!

I'll also be compiling something of a beginners guide here in the OP once I've got a bit more experience, but for now, here's some handy links. If anyone has any other good resources I'll add them in.

BMG FAQ and Eratta
Plain text rulebook (old one but mostly similar)

Good BMG blogs
http://www.critskillpeople.com
http://pressganger.blogspot.co.uk


Anyway, to get some discussion going, I'll start with a bit of wishlisting, models I'd really like to see:

From Arkham, The Arkham Knight/AK Scarecrow and associated goons, Azreal as a Free Agent with Affinity: Batman, Oracle, perhaps?
From Arrow/Flash, Alt League of Assassins stuff, The Dark Archer, Captain Cold, Captain Boomerang, Diggle, Al-Sahim Arrow, Atom, Firestorm, rules for Flash and other metahumans! (More on that below)
In general: more goon sets for various bands, a few different crew options like a Suicide Squad list in the vein of the Court of Owls/Watchmen, a way to run Red Hood and Arsenal together as Outlaws, a way to run a mostly full Bat Family without house rules ect.

What do you want to see?


And on the note of super/metahumans in BMG, I know it's a rather hotly debated issue but personally I think there's scope to include some of the less powerful ones with ease. So far, the best human stats sit around 150 points, guys like Deathstroke and Big Bane, but I think that by pushing up to 180-220 points you could easily make characters like Atom, Firestorm, Starfire or even Flash himself work. Such models would take up over half a list, and could still only be in one place at once, so there's a balancing factor already, and I think they'd add a lot to the game. You'd need to play them well and you'd always be at a numeric disadvantage, but such teams would play very differently to anyone already out.

I also like the idea of making these powers high-AC-Cost abilities, so it would be a choice whether to use them or fight normally. Flash, for instance, could come with Acrobat as a base trait, but any real super-speed would be something like 2MC/2AC to move anywhere he can see (so 30cm normally), leaving only a couple of AC for attack and defence. Again, this balances nicely, he can be quick but hit softly, or slow down to fight better. Thoughts?


Anyway, have at it! Hopefully we can get some discussion going and drum up some more intereste!

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Of note, critskillpeople is also building a wiki for BMG, which is viewable now in sort of a beta mode. Pretty much everything is up there, it just hasn't been gone over with the fine toothed comb yet and the FAQ hasn't been totally integrated.

There are also official forums hosted by Knight models: http://www.batmanminiaturegame.com/forums/english/index.php

I'm really hoping that this month or the next gives us a Mr. Freeze gang starter. Killer Frost as a sidekick got me really excited and I'd like to see it take a step further. A $0 modified version of Mr. Freeze to lead would be nice.

I think supers may be a slippery slope, but I could see them pulling off "young" versions of some of them, where their powers aren't fully mastered/harnessed/awakened.

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Cool, didn't know they were working on that!

A Freeze gang would be cool, what you you envision as henchmen, though? Just the generic Blackgate/Arkham lot, or something specific? He seemed to be working solo in Arkham City.

I see what you mean about the 'slippery slope' for supers, so far the game is great at keeping basic henchmen important and I wouldn't want anything to take away from that. I do think there's room for models costing up to 200-ish points, lower level/tech based heroes and villains rather than anyone like Superman/WW/Doomsday or anything.

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I'm currently loving this game, Have quite a few gangs, just need to find more local players now to enjoy it against, have found 1 regular guy and hopefully another.

   
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Duce, do you have a chance to run demo games? The gameplay is so nice that (combined with the fact it's freaking Batman!) it shouldn't be hard to get some interest in your local store/club. That and the fact you really can play full games for less than some 40k squads cost!

Another question while we wait for this month's releases (according to the BMG forum, they've been delayed a bit due to rewrites and a warehouse move), what are your guys favourite gangs to run?

Personally, I'm liking Bane a lot more than I thought I would. Once you realise how well the game represents his tactical ability as well as his combat skills, he's really thematic. Scheming and the Veteran trait on most models makes him super-flexible (so perhaps a good one for beginners if you're demoing) and the bulletproof vests on most Mercs are handy to say the least!

Nightwing is probably my favourite character so far, though, he just hits so hard and fast! Acrobat, M3 and a Batclaw to get around, and then Att4 and Combo with a Handy, Mechanic weapon with the magic 2 damage, he's just awesome!

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In the Arkham origins dlc,, Cold Cold heart, Freeze does indeed run with his own gang which includes new 1 or 2 new game mechanics for is gang members. This includes a cold beam that freezes you unless you dodge over it.

However it would seem to be an unusual choice to go back to Arkham origins for material right now. I do imagine the next starter releases we will see will either involve the Arkham Knight, Scarecrow or the Arkham militia.

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 Compel wrote:
In the Arkham origins dlc,, Cold Cold heart, Freeze does indeed run with his own gang which includes new 1 or 2 new game mechanics for is gang members. This includes a cold beam that freezes you unless you dodge over it.


Hmm, that's likely to show up, then. AK Bats has a Disruptor that disaables Weapons with the 'Firearm' or 'Beam' type, and currently the latter doesn't exist. So I'd guess Freeze and co would be the first (only?) Faction to get access to 'Beam' weapons.



However it would seem to be an unusual choice to go back to Arkham origins for material right now. I do imagine the next starter releases we will see will either involve the Arkham Knight, Scarecrow or the Arkham militia.


Agreed. Personally I'm hoping for Scarecrow as a Leader and the Knight as a capable sidekick (as in, 85+ points, WP7, similar in ability to someone like Nightwing, Red Hood or even Sidekick Arrow) so you can run them both together without house rules.

Hopefully we get something like this:
Scarecrow starter with militia
Knight blister
Blister with Minigunner and maybe Martial Artist/Drone Controller/Other militia type

I can see the faction being pretty shooty, and there's plenty of stuff to include from the game. Perhaps the Stealth armour that could cancel 'Total Vision', or even a Medic (there's a precedent with Alfred) could be cool.

I can almost see the Militia being Elite, so you'd need the Knight to take multiples, while Scarecrow has the generic gas-masked guys in his starter.

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I've managed to play vs 2 others now, picked up more new items and loving the game system.

Black mask is def fun to play with, but want to get penguin and friend son the table now for the mass grunt fun.

new releases look ace, will be picking them all up
   
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Glad to hear you're getting more games in!

I can't wait to actually see this month's releases! The Riddler we've seen doesn't do much for me, but I am desperate to get a look at Azreal and the AK Red Hood (wonder which version that'll be, pre or post main game quest? ). Both of those might well be instant buys for me unless the sculpts are poor.

Azreal should be bringing some nice up-close Blood damage to the Bat-team, hopefully in Free Agent as I don't want to have to pick between him and Nightwing!

For anyone who hasn't seen it yet, this month's releases are:

AK Harley Thugs 1
Riddler and Robots
Robots set 1
AK Red Hood
AK Azreal
Hugo Strange and Arkham Inmates

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Pics:
 drazz wrote:
Busy month at Knight Models. I'll put up cards later if anyone wants to see them.

Red Hood


Harley Thugs


Bat Signal


Azrael


Rocket Raccoon


Riddler Bots


Hugo Strange and Inmates





And cards:
Spoiler:

Azrael:


Red Hood:


Strange:


Inmates




Joker/Harley Thugs:



Riddler


Riddler Bots:




Liking the look of Azrael and Hood. At some point, I can see myself making a post-retirement 'Batman' crew with Red Hood, Az, Nightwing and Tim! Could be pretty kickass!

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I think I want all of this model wise, not going to get the bat signal even if an objective, will wait for counter attack to make a token for it.
   
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One thing I'd like to see is the completion of the future gangs (Mr. Freeze, Mad Hatter, etc) instead of the trickling out of more FAs and Henchmen. But I understand why they do it that way.

I'm currently running Ivy w/ Harley, Deadshot, and Clayface rotating as my FAs and just the 1st Blackgate Prisoner henchmen. I also have Swamp Thing, but have yet to play him (the local meta had been inactive for a couple months, but is now picking back up again the past week or 2), so I'm REALLY looking forward to making some Swampy lists...somehow...(i hate plants, but I try to be faithful to fluff).

I am a bit torn on what I want my 2nd gang to be. It's between DKR Bane, GCPD, Organized Crime, or a Batman-less Batman gang (led by Nightwing and Red Hood). I'm kinda leaning towards the Batman-less Batman gang, maybe GCPD (there'll probably be carry over anyway), since I already have a "bad guy" gang. Though, I can always play my bad guy gang as good guys (Swamp Thing as leader, henchmen as over-zealous treehuggers?). Organized Crime will probably NOT be picked, but I do love Bane quite a bit...

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Well, they did do that with Riddler this month, so I expect we'll see Freeze (the Killer Frost release suggests it's coming sooner rather than later) and Scarecrow (AK tie-in) in the near future. Hatter there's no sign of, and he didn't feature on AK so I guess he might be a bit longer in coming. Organised Crime is an odd one at the moment, I expect we'll see Falcons/Moroni/maybe the Triad making an appearance there, but when is anyone's guess.

I'm pretty sure you can fit the Fab Four of Robins into a standard 300 Rep list. Nightwing+(original) Red Hood+AK Drake+Damien Wayne is 297 from memory), and you could swap in Huntress/Azrael/Canary/Batgirl/Catwoman easily enough if you wanted an all-hero goo guy list with no Batman. Or yeah, you can grow a Batman/Law gang at the same time. Start with, say, Gordon+SWAT, a cop blister and Batgirl and you can then go in either direction.

I can thoroughly recommend Bane! His starter is great value considering you get a 'big' guy in there, and can all be used by League as well which is nice. I'm not sure whether I prefer Origins or DKR Bane, though, as while DKR's Insensitive and Kill Them traits and higher Def are nice, Scheming is awesome on Origins Bane, and he gains a lot from being Large (no pesky knockdowns!) His Henchmen are wicked too, Assault Rifle with Night Vision goggles keeps even the toughest heroes on their toes.

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I had a go with some greenstuff on Two Face a while ago.



Got up the nerve to start painting him tonight. - It's a pity his 'quiff' had flattened a bit though.

   
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 Paradigm wrote:

I'm pretty sure you can fit the Fab Four of Robins into a standard 300 Rep list. Nightwing+(original) Red Hood+AK Drake+Damien Wayne is 297 from memory), and you could swap in Huntress/Azrael/Canary/Batgirl/Catwoman easily enough if you wanted an all-hero goo guy list with no Batman. Or yeah, you can grow a Batman/Law gang at the same time. Start with, say, Gordon+SWAT, a cop blister and Batgirl and you can then go in either direction.

Yeah, I'm a big DC comic reader and I'm trying to stay faithful to characters I like. Which means no Catwoman or Tim Drake lol. But w/ Azrael available now, it definitely changes my consideration and gives me more choices of characters I like. BC is one of my faves, Huntress is meh, but I'm willing to use her. Either way, if I stick to Nightwing and Red Hood (comics) as my leaders and have BC, Damian, AK Red Hood, and Azrael as my FAs, I don't think I'll pretty much be too far from/over 300 or 350 w/o having to sub in or use some GCPD/SWAT. Which is fine by me. I just need to plan my purchases carefully! =D

edit: My 2nd gang is a ways away anyway. I need to get lots of Swampy list games in in the mean time! If I'm lucky, I'll play 2~3 times a month... And I wanna focus on Swampy for at least my next handful of games!

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Just a question, how effective is Batman AK + Nightwing + Robin AC + Red Hood AK as a team? I'm looking at starting the game up, but if that isn't a really effective group, I'm not really gonna bother that much. Also, does anyone know if there's any gaming scene in Australia for this game? I'd like to be able to play against different people as well as my friends, but I'm unsure if there is anywhere already started up.

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I've been doing pretty well with AK Bats, AC Robin and Nightwing (with a cop or two until I pick up Hood and/or Az). That said, it's a setup that will take some practice, I lost my first few games with it pretty badly until I figured out how to play them.

You need to be ballsy with all-hero teams, and especially when it's just 3 models. Set up early attacks with Bats/Nightwing while Robin goes objective grabbing, use rooftops/Batclawing to make sure you can pounce on any straggling henchmen, and to get back to safety once you have taken down a guy or two. Try not to get Bats stuck in fights with tough enemies; as cool as a 4-turn brawl between two heavy hitters can be, you're better off using your mobility to hit exposed henchmen or unguarded objectives rather than piling in on someone like Titan Bane or Ra's.

The hero team is definitely very fun, though, and effective once you get a measure of each model's ability and get them working together.

Just be aware that unless we get a cheaper Nightwing at some point, getting Robin, Nightwing, Hood and Bats in one team is going to be tricky. You might be able to manage it with Miller Bats at 350, but until then you're probably going to have to pick and choose.

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Ok so you guys have convinced me to bite the bullet and dive in, but I have one more question before I make my first order. How expensive is postage, and how long does it usually take? I've found that the models themselves are well within my price range, but if the postage is ridiculously expensive I'll wait until I can grab the other 2 I need for my crew.

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Try this seller, very reliable and very cheap postage:
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/TheTrollTrader/35mm-Knight-Models-/_i.html?_fsub=9150179014

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Thanks, I'll give them a try! Be interesting to see how long it'll take to ship to Australia

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Ards - N.Ireland

I'm currently thinking of the next two lots for crews to play

Bane origins
deadshot + 1 ammo
Venom soldier
Dallas + night vision + 1 ammo
smash
Mohawk
McGregor

And a Wip law gang.

   
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I'm pretty sure Free Agents can't take upgrades, so I don't think Deadshot can have the extra ammo. Other than that it looks good, and you've got nice redundancy. Two heavy hitters, two shooters, three finishers/grabbers.

Let me know what you think of the Venom thug, I've got one on the way but it might be a while before I can get him on the table.

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Damn, well -1 ammo then and can spend the cash on batclaw or something. maybe dallas would like a claw if they can get it for building shots.

Re law I think I'm going to do

Loeb
Branden
Alpha
Delta
Echo
O'Connell
Detective
ron
2 fat cop
1 stripper cop

or I can drop Branden to get Bravo, and a second detective
   
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If you can afford a Batclaw, I'd give it to the Venom thug. The ability to grapple up to rooftops to fight would be a good way to deter Batman and friends who can otherwise zip around with relative impunity and be sure of the first strike.

I've no real experience with Law, but it looks pretty effective. A good mix and plenty of bodies.


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Is batclaw $200? if so could minus ammo from deadshot and give claw to venom
   
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Nah, it's $300, sadly, so you'd need to drop the extra ammo or NVGs on Dallas to fit it in.

Personally I'd still try it, though. Best case scenario, Dallas gets an Ammo Crate to sit on, worse case he only gets two shots with the best gun in the game and unlimited range, so is still a major threat and more than capable of dropping a couple of models.

On the subject of lists, I was thinking of this one last night:

Nightwing
Batgirl
AC Robin (Drake)
Black Canary
Huntress

Two Robins, three Birds of Prey. As I mentioned before, I love all hero teams, but I'm sure there'll be a time I don't want Batman himself. Against larger crews like Joker, Law or Black Mask I foresee this being a little more effective than my 3-model Batman-led crew, able to cover more ground and with a bit more redundancy, and quite a bit of nice synergy. Canary Cry to allow Nightwing an unimpeded beat down, Huntress for ranged support, Batgirl for some mid range and combat support, Drake foot objective running.

It'll be a good while before I have all those minis, but this team is definitely on my list now!

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Could swap Drake out for Catwoman. then it's nightwing leading the girls.

Nightwing
batgirl
black canary
catwoman
huntress

Only problem is what do you spend all the $ on. maybe ammo for nightwing and batgirl, also whistles, handcuffs and med pack
   
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Again, the problem is that only henchmen, not FAs or Sidekicks, can take upgrades. I'm more of a rule of cool player, though, so don't mind not having spent all the $. It might not be optimal, but if it's fun I ain't complaining!

Not a huge fan of Catwoman as a character, hence why I put Drake in, but yeah, that list is probably more fluffy.

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Damn, I thought sidekicks could. that ruins that idea for you.

Catwoman was for loot scoring to help increase it as she carries loot around fighting.
   
 
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