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Man and Xenos both fear Daemons and consider them to be the true masters of messing with physics and manipulating reality since they require no science at all, and instead have powerful ruinous power that is incomprehensible by the other races.

But i'm wondering what if Daemons, Greater Daemons, Daemon Princes runs into something like the C'tan Shards and Transcendent Shards? How would they react to each other? Who would out surprise who? Who would out hax the other? Who would out power the other?
   
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It's like a matter/anti-matter explosion.

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 Tardzan wrote:
true masters of messing with physics and manipulating reality

Not really, daemons usually have little power over the materium, no more than powerful mortal psykers, and they require expensive rituals of summoning, a body to posses or a warp rift supplying them with mojo to do that. All daemon worlds are the way they are because they reside at least partially in the warp, where such petty concepts as physics and reality do not matter and don't exist.

Currently, i think the Necrons hold the title of being masters over reality due to their absurdly advanced technology, and C'tan probably were on the same, if not higher level. They were kinda vulnerable to warp powers though.

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The Warp is anathema to the C'Tan, they could not enter it at all. According to Codex: Necrons, the hyper-phasic realities that Necrons are fond of using are "merely new flavors of reality to corrupt" to Daemons, and are thus no defense for the Necrons from Warp-spawn.

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 Psienesis wrote:
The Warp is anathema to the C'Tan, they could not enter it at all. According to Codex: Necrons, the hyper-phasic realities that Necrons are fond of using are "merely new flavors of reality to corrupt" to Daemons, and are thus no defense for the Necrons from Warp-spawn.

While true if a C'tan Shard could somehow create a null field like the Necrons can with their technology then they may have an advantage.

However abilities like being able to cast an enemy back in time would probably mean nothing to a Daemon seeing as they are timeless.
   
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The Necrons gave the Grey Knights a cache of Tesseract Labyrinths, with which to permanently trap Daemons. This suggests a number of things.

a) The Necrons must feel threatened by Deamons, as they want them eliminated. They also have the technology to do it, and are willing to provide it to Humanity (their greatest obstacle to Galactic domination) such is their desire to eliminate them.

b) Daemons really should fear Necrons, as they have the ultimate anti-Daemon tech. Grey Knights can permanently kill Daemons under certain circumstances, but being eternally trapped in an empty pocket dimension is stated unambiguously to be a far worse fate than death to a Daemon.

So, between Necrons and Daemons, they're likely equally threatening to each other. The C'tan though are not allied to the Necrons though - they're enslaved - which is a big difference. A C'tan could likely trap a Daemon in a Tesseract, but could a Daemon even touch a C'tan? Something without any warp presence at all?

It'd arguably be like interacting with a Pariah. The C'tan would probably annihilate the Daemon, at least in the mortal realm.

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A demon could interact with a Ctan. They aren't the antithesis physically. If the demon could exist in reality then it could do so. A Ctan cannot enter the warp, though it could combat the physical for the demon itself.

I don't think either would be particularly concerned with the essential essence of the other. Demons are notoriously single minded while Ctan almost utterly alien.

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