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ERJAK wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Gee, it's almost like GW knows that and has been using playtesters/tournament names with followings for a reason...


Considering people figured out that their advice is just as generic and terrible as Warhammer Community's usual fare almost immediately, it isn't helping.
Well the meta-watch articles at least get stats right and while most may not give GOOD advice they certainly don't give awful advice either. Unlike every army preview that has people suggesting rally is the best thing since sliced bread when it is actually a situational tool that does quite poorly in terms of general use.

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 GaroRobe wrote:
"The Skullgrinder would speak when it suited him, and not before. After long moments, the warrior-smith said, ‘I was born a slave. In the chattel-pens of the Furnace Kings. You know of them?’
Ahazian nodded. ‘They forged weapons and armour for the servants of the Dark Gods, before the Azyrites cast down the Bale-Furnace and scattered its rulers. Stunted brutes. Like duardin, but twisted and cruel.’ He grinned around a mouthful of orruk. ‘They made good blades, though. There are warlords who’ll trade a thousand slaves for just one axe forged by the Furnace Kings"

Excerpt from the Spear of Shadows. It could just be figurative, but it sounds like the Furnace Kings weren't really dwarfs. Though it could be like saying Kruleboyz aren't ironjaws, hobgrots aren't gloomspite, etc.

I wonder how they'd even work, given they're probably chaos, and hobgrots are currently destruction.


Not sure if there's any precedent for that kind of thing at this time, but I think hobgoblins would just get a Chaos warcsroll and a Destruction warscroll and you use the one that fits your army's allegiance. No real difference except for keywords.

The other option is that the current hobgoblins are specifically for Destruction and those associated with Chaos dwarfs get a kit of their own, which naturally gets them the necessary Chaos affiliated warscroll.

As for that description, I'd say it's just some dude who's not a biology professor talking of dwarfs in a way that matches his experience. With dwarfs usually being of the Order kind and those being the ones usually met in battle, he's characterizing Furnace Kings culturally rather than biologically, which is enough to make them stand apart from run of the mill dwarfs.

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 GaroRobe wrote:
I wonder how they'd even work, given they're probably chaos, and hobgrots are currently destruction.


Would the game accept a border faction that is both Chaos and Destruction? Mechanically, I mean.
   
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Humans exist across more than 1 faction, no obvious reason why any race/species has to be faction locked per se.
   
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 His Master's Voice wrote:
 GaroRobe wrote:
I wonder how they'd even work, given they're probably chaos, and hobgrots are currently destruction.


Would the game accept a border faction that is both Chaos and Destruction? Mechanically, I mean.

Faction? Probably not.

Nothing potentially stopping a Hobgrot unitif they release a Forge Kings of Azorgh faction though.
   
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Is anyone else surprised the objective markers set is something like 6 pieces for $50?

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 lord marcus wrote:
Is anyone else surprised the objective markers set is something like 6 pieces for $50?


Dissapointed yes, suprised no.

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Are they like the 40k ones where they defined objectives as 40mm in the rules and the new associated objective set comes with 50mm bases?
   
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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Are they like the 40k ones where they defined objectives as 40mm in the rules and the new associated objective set comes with 50mm bases?


The kit is comprised of 28 plastic components, with which you can assemble six objective markers, and is supplied with 3x Citadel 50mm Round Bases, 1x Citadel 75mm Oval Base, 1x Citadel 90mm Oval Base, and 1x Citadel 80mm Round Base.

In AoS you measure from the centre of the objectives base so the size of the base doesn't matter. You could disregard the supplied bases and use bigger or smaller bases - control is measured 6" from the centre of the base so you could build a whole diorama on a 12" diameter base if you want.

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The battleplan being used for a battle will show or explain how objectives are placed (see 28.2.3). When measuring distances to and from objectives, always measure to and from the centre of the objective marker.

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First of the 'Learn to Play' videos:




The rest of the videos can be found at https://ageofsigmar.com/new-to-aos/play/

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Monday: International store still has stock for all languages for Dominion.

We truly are living on unprecedent times. Maybe even The End Times.

Are we sure they are not just lying and this is actually a masked made to order release?
   
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More likely that AoS isn't anywhere near as popular as 40k.

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And as much as people says that marines are only popular because GW gives them atention, GW tried to make stormcast the new marines and failed

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Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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Also there have been supply issues with AoS boxed releases as well so the popularity vs 40K argument seems off.




 
   
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 Galas wrote:
And as much as people says that marines are only popular because GW gives them atention, GW tried to make stormcast the new marines and failed


Yes and no. It's important to note that the way GW treats Stormcast and Marines is very different. AoS started out very much with the same marketing ideas - all stories about stormcast; stormcast front and centre; chambers which were clearly originally designed to mirror marine chapters and the like. However GW also bungled the launch of AoS in many other ways. Once they turned around their attitudes they also dropped the marine style marketing for Stormcast. Basically one reason Marines outsell everything else in 40K is that for a long time GW's marketing focused very very heavily upon marines only. AoS has a totally different marketing strategy and whilst Stormcast are still core and still appear in the boxed set, they are very much just one of many marketed factions in the game.


Though yes when Marines alone can be 40% of total company sales on their own, any boxed set with brand new models for them is going to really sell powerfully well.

   
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Something that's always worth pointing out with regards to Marines is how easy it is to just play "counts as" whenever a new book/hot new strategy drops.

The jokes about Blue Space Wolves or Green Ultramarines had a start from that.
   
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 Ghaz wrote:
First of the 'Learn to Play' videos:




The rest of the videos can be found at https://ageofsigmar.com/new-to-aos/play/


Hmm thats not Becca! :(

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I was rather fond of Becca!

Oh well...

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Also from the learn to play videos, you can see a new unit named Vanquishers here
   
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Becca hasn't done a GW video since the WarCry and Apocalypse videos in 2019. Apparently something happened in 2020 that kept her from doing more videos for GW. I wonder what that could be

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cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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Right behind you.

 Matrindur wrote:
Spoiler:


Also from the learn to play videos, you can see a new unit named Vanquishers here

Do they ever show the Vanquishers?

Also interestingly, I don't recognize this piece?
Spoiler:

Horse mounted Lord-Regent from the looks of things...

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Vanquishers must be the alternative build for Vindictors.
I wonder if the Annihilators have a unit size of 5.
   
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zanzibarthefirst wrote:
Vanquishers must be the alternative build for Vindictors.
I wonder if the Annihilators have a unit size of 5.

No. They have a unit size of 3.

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cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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 Mr Morden wrote:
 Ghaz wrote:
First of the 'Learn to Play' videos:




The rest of the videos can be found at https://ageofsigmar.com/new-to-aos/play/


Hmm thats not Becca! :(

Well GW did something right in my books for that. The exaggerated cheeriness and over emphasising the ennnd of everrry, sentencceeee *Smirks at camera* made for bad viewing imo.
   
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 Arbitrator wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
 Ghaz wrote:
First of the 'Learn to Play' videos:




The rest of the videos can be found at https://ageofsigmar.com/new-to-aos/play/


Hmm thats not Becca! :(

Well GW did something right in my books for that. The exaggerated cheeriness and over emphasising the ennnd of everrry, sentencceeee *Smirks at camera* made for bad viewing imo.


It gave a very "borderline farsical over-the-top Cyberpunk Megacorp ad" feel to them

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 CMLR wrote:
Monday: International store still has stock for all languages for Dominion.

We truly are living on unprecedent times. Maybe even The End Times.

Are we sure they are not just lying and this is actually a masked made to order release?


Likely? Apparently they’ve told retailers to expect their preorders divvied up over up to three waves of deliveries, which of course has made many of them less than pleased.

 
   
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ERJAK wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Disagree. They're sales pitches to metachasers.


So is it 'sales', 'pitch', 'meta', 'chasers', or all of the above that you don't understand that leads you to draw that conclusion?

No one who uses the word 'meta' would go to a warhammer community article for any kind of advice, let alone someone who chases it.



I mean the dumb meta chasers maybe?
   
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 Matrindur wrote:


Also from the learn to play videos, you can see a new unit named Vanquishers here


Liberators and judicators hit with huge point hikes. Pushing new kits or hint of big warscroll improvements?

New basic guys from meanwhile got point drop.

And confirms july is at least intended release month for battletome thoujh delays dke to corona etc possible.

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GW have hit most armies with point hikes. They are basically reshaping the game with fewer models at the 2K point. Which pairs well with drawing in new customers and making it fit smaller table sizes as suggested by their new game boards they are selling.

So its a marketing move, but a smart one since game bloat can be a huge issue for wargames at pushing out new people. Of course this doesn't stop you using bigger forces; you just need to have 3K or bigger games.


Considering 40K has Apoc I do wonder if GW will release an equivalent AoS system

   
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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
ERJAK wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Gee, it's almost like GW knows that and has been using playtesters/tournament names with followings for a reason...


Considering people figured out that their advice is just as generic and terrible as Warhammer Community's usual fare almost immediately, it isn't helping.
Well the meta-watch articles at least get stats right and while most may not give GOOD advice they certainly don't give awful advice either. Unlike every army preview that has people suggesting rally is the best thing since sliced bread when it is actually a situational tool that does quite poorly in terms of general use.


Unless you took 30 Pink Horrors. I wonder how many days are gonna get ruined before that gets errata'd away.

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