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2006/05/08 07:36:35
Subject: Upkeep spells stackable?
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Buttons Should Be Brass, Not Gold!
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The rules state that a warcaster may only cast 1 copy of an upkeep spell a turn - therefore, it seems that: Example: Deneghra upkeeps parasite on a Juggernaut - she is then free to recast parasite that turn. 1. Is the Juggernaut a valid target? 2. Do the 2 instances of parasite stack? 3. What if Deneghra casts parasite on a Juggernaut, and then Asphyxious also casts parasite on a target. Does this stack? I don't have a copy of Prime handy... so any help would be appreciated.
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2006/05/08 07:42:53
Subject: RE: Upkeep spells stackable?
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Master of the Hunt
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I believe there is a line that states that if the spell is recast, then the previous incarnaiton of the spell immediately ends.
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"It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the seed of Arabica that thoughts acquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion." |
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2006/05/08 07:58:09
Subject: RE: Upkeep spells stackable?
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Buttons Should Be Brass, Not Gold!
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What about the case where Denny and Gaspy cast the same spell? What if Jr casts arcane shield and Stryker does the same? Does that conflict - and does it stack?
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2006/05/08 08:09:36
Subject: RE: Upkeep spells stackable?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The rules on upkeep spells are:
1) A warcaster can only upkeep one of each of his upkeep spells 2) A model can only have one upkeep spell on it at a time.
So in your first question: The Juggernaut will have one parasite on it in all instances because of #2. Furthermore, if Deneghra were to cast Parasite on the Juggernaut and then cast it on a Destroyer, it would no longer be on the Juggernaut.
If Stryker casts Arcane Shield on a unit of say Sword Knights Junior is free to cast it on any other unit. If he casts it on the Sword Knights, then Stryker's shield goes away.
JD
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2006/05/08 08:21:09
Subject: RE: Upkeep spells stackable?
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Buttons Should Be Brass, Not Gold!
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Based on the 1 upkeep at a time - wouldn't that mean that arcane shield on an Ironclad could be removed by casting parasite on the same model - is it one upkeep spell / side or total?
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2006/05/08 10:27:47
Subject: RE: Upkeep spells stackable?
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Master of the Hunt
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One per side.
There was a specific example of this somewhere (I'm not sure if it was in Primal, or on the PP forums, but I read it recently). Enemy upkeeps do not cancel yours, and vice versa.
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2006/05/09 04:19:17
Subject: RE: Upkeep spells stackable?
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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A model may only have 1 friendly and 1 enemy upkeep on it at a time. Subsequent upkeeps cancel the previous. (IE If denny Parasites, then Lich does, Lich's replaces Denny's). You may upkeep a spell then cast the spell at a different target, but it will cancel the original. (This can be tactically useful IE Upkeep CG on a 'jack, mangle it, then activate Denny and cast it on a new 'jack).
Effects of the same name do not stack unless specified otherwise (see the Greylord Ternion for an example where they would stack).
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-James
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