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Source: GW Insider and DRAGONalpha837 (FW insider)

Confirmed
New Dwarves infantry - and new character model (Fire-Slayer King)
Chaos (Fantasy) gets new kits (Tzeentch focused).
1. New model for Kairos Fateweaver and Lord of Change (similar size to Bloodthirster with multiple options of a staff or strangely mutilated spear/sword)
Slaneesh products will be minimised - not sure if GW has decided to erase Slaneesh from the fluff entirely
Beastmen models to be discontinued by end of 2016
Brettonia also to be discontinued (no confirmed date)
New Elves unit

40k & 30k
Sanguinus model confirmed (Resembles AoS Celestant Prime but more badass with a Greater Daemon Carcass
New CSM book 179 pages
New plague marines (plastic, looks like 40k version of putrid blight kings)
New unit called plague wardens (?) Looks like nurgle centurions
Tzeentch LOC usable in 40k

There was also a possibility of bringing back a renewed version of an old Dwarf war machine with axes. Model design is apparently completed but no confirmations on release

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Beastmen models to be discontinued by end of 2016?? really this is surprising.

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That Sanguinius description though..

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I call BS ... besides the obvious and making the effort of making up a name on a blister leak that we just happened to got lucky with, this is all wishful thinking at best
   
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 aracersss wrote:
I call BS ... besides the obvious and making the effort of making up a name on a blister leak that we just happened to got lucky with, this is all wishful thinking at best

The funniest part is that they chose to say that the Fire Slayer is a "King".

Most likely? It'll be something like a Fire-Slayer Grudgebearer and the character is more like the Bloodbound's "Bloodsecrator", who can plant a standard and let models within a bubble ignore Battleshock.
   
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I think this all seems pretty likely regardless of the validity of this rumormonger.

Perhaps that new Tzeentch sorcerer for AOS will signal GW starting on at least something other than Khorne and Nurgle for Chaos. It seems like they're quite content to just focus on the two primary factions in AOS (Sigmar vs Chaos) anyway. They make up the gist of the entire story, with some outliers (orcs, ogres, and undead) serving as background elements to them.

It's obvious Bretonnians are going away- they don't fit GW's "everything we make is completely original" tagline. I imagine Beastmen will not exist as a faction to get their own compendium due to their relatively smaller niche within Old Fantasy, but perhaps we'll see some of their units brought back into another Chaos book (as they were originally).

On the 40k side...well, obviously another Primarch has to be on the way. The CSM book isn't looking too hot these days, so it could use a re-working. At the same time, GW can flesh out one of the two Chaos factions it loves to do and transplant the Nurgle concepts they used for AOS pretty much directly into 40k.

I would like to see what the new dwarves look like, that character sprue is looking pretty decent!

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Right behind you.

Look at the Irondrakes/Ironbreakers and Longbeards/Hammerers and the various character kits that came out.

Stuff is likely to stay in that same vein.
   
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If the Sanguinius model rumor is true, 100% going to buy. Would buy the BaC set and make it into Blood Angels.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
Look at the Irondrakes/Ironbreakers and Longbeards/Hammerers and the various character kits that came out.

Stuff is likely to stay in that same vein.


Well that's good to keep in mind, I think overall most of the new dwarf stuff has been pretty great.
   
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 Accolade wrote:


It's obvious Bretonnians are going away- they don't fit GW's "everything we make is completely original" tagline. I imagine Beastmen will not exist as a faction to get their own compendium due to their relatively smaller niche within Old Fantasy, but perhaps we'll see some of their units brought back into another Chaos book (as they were originally).


there is no obvious here! Everything is said and done 'til it happens, not to mention bretonnian cities lifting to azhyr is a thing already.
   
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Just for comparison, here's the OP's previous New and Rumour thread featuring "confirmed facts" about AOS before it was released...

Spoiler:
Age of Sigmar is coming out soon, and with false rumours of a "bubbled reality" and etc. I have decided to share some confirmed info. If anyone else knows anything about the upcoming Age of Sigmar, you are more than welcome to share your info (with substantial evidence).

Right. First off is that the upcoming Age of Sigmar bases. According to Rhellion via twitter, Age of Sigmar is both for veterans and new players. It is confirmed that there will be round bases (as already seen in warhammer fantasy e.g. fanatics and mangler squigs) for some units. However, the majority of the models will continue to have their regular bases with the exception of certain heroes and special characters.

According to Deathwing897 on BOLS/Warseer, he has confirmed that some armies will be entirely erased from the game. Though it is unclear which armies will be available in the next edition, there is a large rumour that unpopular armies e.g. beastmen and wood elves will just be pushed into a larger faction, which we all have seen in the End times. The ongoing rumour is that GW will retain their armies in the end-times-ish way: Legions of chaos, Elves, Dwarves, Skaven, Realm of men (confirmed. Basically brettonia + empire) etc. There has been very little info regarding the Lizardmen. But it is likely that GW will retain the army as the latest lizard update has proved to have been a success.

Regarding the new boxed edition set, it has been confirmed by Joshmarine98 on BOLS that one army is the realm of men. The other army has not been confirmed. There is confirmation however that the realm of men will include a unit of knights, 2 units of infantry (similar to brettonian peasants), a war machine, and 2 heroes (captain and wizard or engineer).

The background will be in the New World, the only remaining area left in the Warhammer World. The Chaos gods will return but as a more united front e.g. bloodletters with blessings of Nurgle etc. The Realm of men will also be united under a new emperor and god. The Undead will inhabit in old ruins of the lizard men temples as well as elves, and the skaven. Dwarves will establish new forts in mountainous areas. Though there has been a large question regarding the return of chaos dwarves, it is highly unlikely. But there is still an ongoing rumour that chaos dwarves will return as some dwarves were sucked into the void/warp in the final battle.

New confirmed rules include a major change in the alliances. It will work similarly to the 40k alliance chart in 6th ed. Other major changes include a new rule, Death to the Gods, which is supposed to be given for any human character opposing the chaos gods. This gives them stupidity, hatred or frenzy, and a ward save.

This is all I know. If you know anything else about the upcoming age of sigmar, feel free to post... again, with substantial evidence.


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 Azreal13 wrote:
Just for comparison, here's the OP's previous New and Rumour thread featuring "confirmed facts" about AOS before it was released...

Spoiler:
Age of Sigmar is coming out soon, and with false rumours of a "bubbled reality" and etc. I have decided to share some confirmed info. If anyone else knows anything about the upcoming Age of Sigmar, you are more than welcome to share your info (with substantial evidence).

Right. First off is that the upcoming Age of Sigmar bases. According to Rhellion via twitter, Age of Sigmar is both for veterans and new players. It is confirmed that there will be round bases (as already seen in warhammer fantasy e.g. fanatics and mangler squigs) for some units. However, the majority of the models will continue to have their regular bases with the exception of certain heroes and special characters.

According to Deathwing897 on BOLS/Warseer, he has confirmed that some armies will be entirely erased from the game. Though it is unclear which armies will be available in the next edition, there is a large rumour that unpopular armies e.g. beastmen and wood elves will just be pushed into a larger faction, which we all have seen in the End times. The ongoing rumour is that GW will retain their armies in the end-times-ish way: Legions of chaos, Elves, Dwarves, Skaven, Realm of men (confirmed. Basically brettonia + empire) etc. There has been very little info regarding the Lizardmen. But it is likely that GW will retain the army as the latest lizard update has proved to have been a success.

Regarding the new boxed edition set, it has been confirmed by Joshmarine98 on BOLS that one army is the realm of men. The other army has not been confirmed. There is confirmation however that the realm of men will include a unit of knights, 2 units of infantry (similar to brettonian peasants), a war machine, and 2 heroes (captain and wizard or engineer).

The background will be in the New World, the only remaining area left in the Warhammer World. The Chaos gods will return but as a more united front e.g. bloodletters with blessings of Nurgle etc. The Realm of men will also be united under a new emperor and god. The Undead will inhabit in old ruins of the lizard men temples as well as elves, and the skaven. Dwarves will establish new forts in mountainous areas. Though there has been a large question regarding the return of chaos dwarves, it is highly unlikely. But there is still an ongoing rumour that chaos dwarves will return as some dwarves were sucked into the void/warp in the final battle.

New confirmed rules include a major change in the alliances. It will work similarly to the 40k alliance chart in 6th ed. Other major changes include a new rule, Death to the Gods, which is supposed to be given for any human character opposing the chaos gods. This gives them stupidity, hatred or frenzy, and a ward save.

This is all I know. If you know anything else about the upcoming age of sigmar, feel free to post... again, with substantial evidence.


Draw your own conclusions.


So I guess that would be a bit of 'Bull' alongside a pile of 'Gak' then?!

 
   
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aracersss wrote:
 Accolade wrote:


It's obvious Bretonnians are going away- they don't fit GW's "everything we make is completely original" tagline. I imagine Beastmen will not exist as a faction to get their own compendium due to their relatively smaller niche within Old Fantasy, but perhaps we'll see some of their units brought back into another Chaos book (as they were originally).


there is no obvious here! Everything is said and done 'til it happens, not to mention bretonnian cities lifting to azhyr is a thing already.


Ehh, I'd still put money on Bretonnians not existing as a faction that receives a book. They might still get a shout-out or two in the lore, but as far as having Arthurian knights running around in games of AOS- I'll just say that this would be go significantly against everything GW has been doing with AOS (what with the aelfs, orruks, and other malarkey).

@Azreal: that's a pretty good point, this rumormonger is probably full of gak. I think if I were betting on anything, it would be the stuff mentioned about AOS. WIth 40k...well, those CSM rumors do seem to keep cropping up in a very "click-bait" sort of way these last few months.

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 Accolade wrote:


Ehh, I'd still put money on Bretonnians not existing as a faction that receives a book. They might still get a shout-out or two in the lore, but as far as having Arthurian knights running around in games of AOS- I'll just say that this would be go significantly against everything GW has been doing with AOS (what with the aelfs, orruks, and other malarkey).


tell that to every other army which takes reference from existent mythical archetypes.
   
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Well sure, but I think GW is trying to downplay those pretty hard- see the re-namings of all of the old factions. Things like dwarves and ogres are generic, yes, but they are open to differing levels of interpretation. Bretonnians are straight-up Arthurian knights, down to the lady in the lake; they don't provide for a case of originality at all. I don't think GW wants to go so far as to pretending they don't exist (just look at how well that ended up for Squats in 40k!), but I really and truly doubt we'll see any future releases for them...unless of course the company goes in a completely different direction than they are now
   
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nightshae007 wrote:
Brettonia also to be discontinued (no confirmed date)

Bretonnians were discontinued in 2010 with the release of the Battalion box. Let's not pretend otherwise.


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The guy I got the info about AoS worked at GW, but with 40k. He picked up some rumours and stories about AoS and I had a chat with him. I only dug up rumours that were similar to his story.

I can confirm that LOC is coming. The guy confirmed that LOC will be a centrepiece model much like Nagash or the Bloodthirster. GW gained an incredible amount of profit from the Nagash and the Bloodthirster model. The reason why they're currently focusing on releasing "Large Centrepiece models" as well as HH is because GW fans are willing to spend a buttload of money to own such impressive kits. I believe the Bloodthirster kit was originally made in 2013(?)-14(?) and was originally planned to be released until GW came up with the idea of the End times.

He also mentioned that HH will enter GW's range depending on the profit GW earns from the Betrayal at Calth.

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The AoS rumours are more or less 30% accurate... But I'm willing to believe that dwarves, LOC are coming.

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Joyboozer wrote:
What is your criteria for considering something to be confirmed?


Any old gak would be my guess.

I dug a little deeper into the OP's post history and found this gem too,

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nightshae007 wrote:
All right guys. I just heard from a GW staff member in Stockholm, who said that the Emperor might make a cameo in the last End Times. I didn't believe him, but he showed me the pages where it seemed that characters from the 40k universe were making cameos in the Fantasy universe.
E.g.

“The warlock engineers soon discovered the Device of the Great Beyond, a communication apparatus that spoke to beings from beyond the stars. As they swirled its many dials, a querulous voice spoke through the stone speakers. That voice, fair and clear caused the Skaven to bolt away. The device was something like the far-squeaker, but the melodious tones that issued forth were, if anything, kin to the despised speech of the elf-things. As they did not understand the alien language, nor how the arcane contraption worked the warlock engineers pulled the device apart and shot it with warplock pistols until it stopped making any sounds.”
(Sounds like Eldar/Skaven mashup to me)

Araloth entered into the Realms of Chaos meeting a knight in silver armor who can shoot blue flames at demons (GK psy bolts?). Araloth completes his mission and sees the the knight wounded, saying he can never be killed.

Is this real? He said that the beastmen might come back into the 40k universe along with squats models (does anyone remember them anymore?) and cyber boars (Cheers for my Snakebites tribe!). But is this real or a sham? I would love to see a small scale 40k/fantasy mashup, but I'm a bit skeptical and worried about a huge mashup between the two universes... Idk how the emperor is going to appear in the last End times if he is going to appear (he's dead anyway (no offence, imperialist players)). What do you think?

P.S. I don't have any potatoes. Sorry guys :(


So I'm guessing this is largely the "I'm bored so I'll try and troll some strangers" school of mongering.

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What a load of cobblers'.

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Azreal13. If you read Khaine in the end times, you'll find that section stated clearly. A knight in silver armour.

Didn't state if it was Draigo or not, but the description matched pretty well with him

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You can't call them confirmed. They are rumours, nothing more, nothing less. Most of it being fake anyway...

Everyone can say they can expect a CSM codex in a year at the rate GW poops out codexes.

This is like saying... "I know that there will be a new Space Marine Codex between now and three years or so." eventually I'll be right anyway.

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Poor ignorant guardsmen, it be but one of many of the great miracles of the Emperor! The Emperor is magic, like Harry Potter, but more magic! A most real and true SPACE WIZARD! And for the last time... I'm not a space plumber.

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You do know that thread was about whether or not draigo made an appearance in the end times right?


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You do know I never spoke a word about that draigo post.

It's not confirmed to be him either, no name is given. It's more or less an easter egg towards 40K. A little alinea in a book/codex/armybook/whatever doesn't make something a fact if it's all vague about it and there isn't anything touching up on this subject any further.

And sorry but saying something like "I got this from somebody who works for GW." isn't going to be enough to say that this is 100% confirmed. To us this is just rumor mongering for now.

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Azreal13. If you read Khaine in the end times, you'll find that section stated clearly. A knight in silver armour.

Didn't state if it was Draigo or not, but the description matched pretty well with him


It's from a thread entitled "40K Emperor In Next End Times?"

Your thread about AOS featured a load of "confirmed" info that was, ultimately, horsegak.

If you're not a troll you're easily led and your gatekeeping is terrible.

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BS...there is no "Discontinued armies" in AoS.

The warscrolls are available for free and will remain that way.GW will never tell anyone they cant use armies that have had Warscrolls released for them.

Now they may combine past armies or parts of past armies,or even further subdivide armies.

They may discontinue some of the models and go to more multi use kits, but when they do that it just boosts the value of the existing models which is great for the hobby.

The possibilities are endless in AoS.Even if the Bretonnians don't get a specific Battletomb(eventually I believe they will) or just get mention in a sort of "combined human armies"Battletomb they can always be used as a force that is following the ancient ways of the World that was.Or perhaps a Bretonia like continent is found beyond a realmgate in the Death realm.

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There will be no Sanguinius in 2016. This 'FW' source is nonsense

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 Marshal Loss wrote:
There will be no Sanguinius in 2016. This 'FW' source is nonsense


Yea, the BA book hasn't even come up yet in HH rumors/photos/anything.

There's almost no way Sang appears next year, and if he does it won't be until extremely late in the year. There are far too many other Primarchs with books and no models.

Hell even as a BA fanboy, I can't buy into this rumor. The SW Primarch will come out before Sang, and I doubt we will see both of those next year.

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