The Mantic's "The Walking Dead Miniatures Game - All Out War" Kickstarter Thread

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**monders**

KS Link

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1744629938/the-walking-dead-all-out-war-miniatures-game/description

https://manticblog.com/2016/01/05/twelve-days-mantic-christmas-12-walking-dead/

Edit: interestingly, it doesn't appear to be a Kickstarter... I'm sure we'll find something else to grumble about though!

Minis look good and it starts small and can scale up. Ticks my boxes.

**Mr Morden**

Looks interesting

**Nostromodamus**

Yup, congrats to Mantic!

Not something I'll be going for, unless there's some cool terrain at retail.

**BrookM**

Hi everyone,

Ronnie here. Happy New Year – I hope 2015 was a good one and that 2016 is even better.

We’ve been building up to this for some time, and I’d like to proudly announce that Mantic will be making ‘The Walking Dead Miniatures Game’, titled ‘All OUT WAR’, under license from Skybound Entertainment.

The Walking Dead: All Out War will be set in the engaging and immersive post-apocalyptic world of The Walking Dead comic series. Having the comic license gives us far more freedom to reproduce from all the rich and evocative artwork, and over 149 issues of the comics. This offered the biggest choice of factions and characters – in fact the widest scope possible to explore the setting and heroes. Finally the comic license also gives us direct access to the Skybound team, and insight into the world by the people who actually created it! We will bring the pages to life with fantastic models that will cry out to be painted, slick game play and it’ll all be part of an awesomely fun gaming experience.

Why The Walking Dead?

When I set up Mantic I had a very clear vision for what I wanted the company to stand for and to be about. I have enjoyed collecting, painting and gaming with miniatures almost all my life. Certainly from a very early age I always had plastic soldiers of one kind or another very close at hand. As I got older that developed into my grown-up hobby and one that I have managed to work in all my adult life (and I hope I am lucky enough that continues until retirement – although I am not sure my wife would agree!).

Mantic was set up to share that love of gaming with miniatures with as large an audience as possible. I felt the need to create Mantic because the companies in the market were actually going the other way – they were making gaming more expensive, more complicated and more restrictive. I wanted to share my wonderful hobby with as many people as possible. I knew it would take years to build up the company to the point where it would have a good-sized gamer base and the infrastructure to cope with the growth (and plateaus). Mantic has been helped by huge support from the community through its short life – both for the business generally and for all our Kickstarter campaigns. We now have a truly global wargame with Kings of War and the rapidly evolving and very exciting sci-fi Warpath Universe. In the coming years we will continually add to, and develop, both of these.

However, I believe to really open up gaming to new markets you have to start with an IP people know and love – and to do it in a big way it has to be a truly massive, well known license. It has to be a property that people love, feel deeply about and want to get more involved with. Then you have to make the game world class, simple, fun and exciting, with tactics and army building. The miniatures have to be astounding so you want to get on and paint them and bring the world to life. And let’s be honest, full armies take a long time to collect and get painted – so something with 10 or so models is a great place to start, especially if it scales up a little along the way .

When I really started digging in to this subject and actually talking to license holders talking there was one property that struck me as perfect. It covered all the points above – and then some. It has a global following and has leaders with character; interesting factions and a world we can relate to. Once I had gone and met them I was even more certain.

In the next four weeks we’ll let you see the game design, the miniatures and the vision for the system – and look out on the Mantic blog this week for all the inside news – including my visit to the Skybound studio. I hope to see you there!

**Warhams-77**

Looking forward to it, hopefully the scale is similiar to Mars Attacks' (true scale but comic book look).

**adamsouza**

Warhams-77 wrote:
Looking forward to it, hopefully the scale is similiar to Mars Attacks' (true scale but comic book look).

Seconded. Mostly so we can get more use out of the Mars attack terrain and human minaitures

**gorgon**

The Walking Dead -- good.

Mantic - bad.

**bubber**

Hope they do a few good (& cheap) cars as well!

**GrimDork**

I'm interested. Especially since it sounds like a 'skirmish combat' type of game and not as much like zombicide and what not.

Are there really that many factions in the walking dead comic universe? Maybe I'm missing out.

I like what I've seen of the zombies so far. They look nice and worn down, zombie walk, and so far there are two female zombies on display and neither seems to be trying remotely hard to be sexy. No exposed thongs (zombicide), giant breasts, awkward poses (some of the WGF female zombies try fairly hard to be sexy yet undead at the same time), or so on. I mean the one does have a skirt but.. y'know people do wear those. So that's cool. They all seem to be dressed in modern normal clothes and the poses look very zombie. Not necessarily better or worse than what exists nowadays, but more to my liking.

So the post talks about tactics and army building, and starting with 10 models on a side. So... this is going to be a skirmish combat game set in modern times, and the zombies are going to be more along the lines of NPCs/AI? That... could be neat.

**pretre**

From Ronnie's facebook

**Nostromodamus**

Ronnie must have had a sore left hand after posing for that.

**GrimDork**

That... is kind of awesome

**MLaw**

This really can only be a good thing.
If the rules are good, hey win!
If the rules are bad, there's other modern zombie games to use.
If the terrain is cheap yay! If it's expensive, there's railroad stuff and diecast cars from the drugstore for $5 each
If the models are good and cheap, awesome, if not.. WGF is!

So basically, unless this is a complete failure, it's going to have some sort of positive outcome. Those models already look pretty nice.. so at this point it's all good.

I do hope they have some nice PA terrain that isn't repurposed MA stuff. I had to skip the BS PA terrain KS and they have not been good at backfilling old sets so far.

**Necros**

Minis look a'ight, but I don't really think i'd play it. just won't have the time. Might still be interested if there's good terrain.. some kind of more modern looking battlezone style kits would be great.

**Daedleh**

GrimDork wrote:
I'm interested. Especially since it sounds like a 'skirmish combat' type of game and not as much like zombicide and what not.
....

So the post talks about tactics and army building, and starting with 10 models on a side. So... this is going to be a skirmish combat game set in modern times, and the zombies are going to be more along the lines of NPCs/AI? That... could be neat.

Very accurate

bubber wrote:
Hope they do a few good (& cheap) cars as well!

Cars were a key part of the scenario we played so I'd say extremely likely.

**Thebiggesthat**

Yay, another Kickstarter!

More middle fingers to the FLGS!

**lord_blackfang**

I already made a... Left4Dead simulator in Mars Attacks. At best, I might want to pick up some minis/terrain.

**GrimDork**

Have they said kickstarter yet? I mean I think that's a fairly same assumption, I just didn't see those words used. Yet.

Daedleh, if it plays like you say, definitely have some interest.

**BrookM**

Many thanks to the mod who updated the thread title.

**Warhams-77**

I will buy some sound chips and record car alarms for the proper ambient

**Thebiggesthat**

GrimDork wrote:
Have they said kickstarter yet? I mean I think that's a fairly same assumption, I just didn't see those words used. Yet.

Daedleh, if it plays like you say, definitely have some interest.

It'll be a kickstarter, Ronnie has said.

I hope more FLGS learn to say 'get stuffed Mantic' and stop stocking their products, until they stop this kickstarter cycle

**Theophony**

Well Mantic Zombies are .....okay, we will have to see how the survivors look, but I think I'll stick with my zombicide stuff. I might go in for $1 if you get the rules free and then just use zombicide figures to play.

**Commissar-Danno**

Here I am thinking I have a collection I can say "That is enough" , I've got several rule sets from the dark ages up to the 1940's. I should be happy with it and I am, then this announcement... as soon as I think I'm out I get dragged back in again.

**monders**

BrookM wrote:Many thanks to the mod who updated the thread title.

Seconded!

I'm on my iPad, so I just tried to keep it brief.

Hmmm, not quite as interested if it's a KS.

**godswildcard**

It would be lovely if they made some Zombicide stand-in models. The walked I've seen so far look great! Now I need some fatties and abominations....

**GrimDork**

I dunno about the comic universe but the tv show hasn't had anything but regular zombies (though I am a season behind...).

**Nostromodamus**

godswildcard wrote:It would be lovely if they made some Zombicide stand-in models. The walked I've seen so far look great! Now I need some fatties and abominations....

Making not-Zombicide figures would be hilarious, in a meta kind of way

**lord_blackfang**

Commissar-Danno wrote:
I've got several rule sets from the dark ages up to the 1940's

Shouldn't those be in a museum?

**Da Boss**

Phew! Thank god it's not Fallout.

I think I can sit this out and maybe get it at retail if it turns out to be awesome, and focus my KS energy this year on Red Box Games like the plan was.

**GrimDork**

For any of you guys familiar with the walking dead comics... what are we talking about in terms of factions here? I've seen a lot of the show but I'm a season or two behind, but I'm assuming there's more going on in the comics too? I haven't seen anything like fallout's brotherhood, enclave, or raiders but again no comic experience. So I'm assuming there will be generic groups like survivors, bandits, maybe army... or specific groups like Rick and company, the Governor and thugs, and so on.

If someone with more knowledge could perhaps illuminate me on this... just really curious as to which factions are going to be skirmishing against the backdrop of zombehs.