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This week has been all about Fyreslayers for me (well, when I haven’t been painting Beastmen!), reading the Legends of the Age of Sigmar novel, Fyreslayers, and now Battletome: Fyreslayers.

So, what’s up with these orange-haired dwarfs then, eh?

As always, more piccies here (and you really want to see the artwork in this book...): https://ttgamingdiary.wordpress.com/2016/01/22/review-battletome-fyreslayers/



The first thing to bear in mind, if you are a Warhammer Longbeard… these ain’t your daddy’s dwarfs. They are not even his Trollslayers. While sharing a few aesthetics with slayers (orange hair-dos), there the similarity ends.

In manner, they are more your ‘typical’ dwarf – staunch, brave, honourable. They do hire themselves out as mercenaries (in fact, the novel shows an instance of how they can end up fighting for Chaos) but they are not just two-dimensional dwarfs that can be thrown into any army. There are reasons they do what they do…

This is covered in the first section of the book which looks at the Fyreslayers, their history (myth), society and organisation. In a nutshell, they believe (and they are probably right) that their god, Grimnir, was split into lots of pieces of ur-gold when fighting the Mother of Salamanders, Vulcatrix. Thus, by scouring the Realms for ur-gold, they prove devotion to their god – however, it is more than that, as they make runes out of ur-gold and then hammer it into their flesh, gaining a part of his divine power. This is what makes them so hard in battle…

So, if a Chaos Lord comes along with a problem and a big chest of ur-gold, Fyreslayers may do some nasty things. But they have their reasons. They are not greedy mercenaries, though other races certainly think so. The gathering of ur-gold is a religious act.

One thing that becomes clear, however, reading both this book and (especially) the novel. The Magmaholds of the Fyreslayers (where they all live) are big and they contain a lot of Fyreslayers. When the lodge marches to war, it can have thousands of Fyreslayers in its force – they are not tiny little mercenary bands, these guys are a major force in whatever part of the Mortal Realms they reside in.

It is also clear that the Fyreslayers are pretty much everywhere – you can set your lodge in any of the Mortal Realms and it will slide right in (a benefit to having such vast areas to play in). For example, they are present in the Jade Kingdoms (Realm of Life), where the Paleslayers of Winter (as they are known) rub tree sap into their hair, and are feared by Nurgle minion and Sylvaneth alike.

As I have said with other Battletomes, the artwork in this book is second to none and, in fact, it might just be the best Age of Sigmar book yet in this regard. Check out this spread, which precedes the ‘unit’ section.

There are twelve lodges (armies, if you like) of Fyreslayers that have write-ups in this book, covering just about all the Realms. You are going to find something in here to latch onto with your own force, even if it is just inspiration for something new.

This is followed by the by-now-usual painting guide. This covers a handful of lodges, plus Magmadroths;

This is then followed by the ‘hobby section’ that features lots of photos of pretty painted miniatures – orange is very much a theme that runs through this part (and the rest of the book, for that matter).

All very interesting thus far, but the next section is rapidly becoming my favourite in the Battletomes – the Battleplans. As well as providing new ways to play Age of Sigmar, they also add little chapters to the ongoing storyline, and our group is looking to incorporate, well, all of them into our campaigns!

The first, At the Threshold, depicts a Khorne horde in the Realm of Fire attacking a Fyreslayer Magmahold – just from the miniatures needed for this fight I can see we will be tackling this one fairly soon! Might need some more Fyreslayers though, I only picked up enough for a little band…

The next, The Fiend’s Lair, puts the boot on the other foot and has the Fyreslayers entering a shadowy cavern to root out a vampire. As always, this has a narrative lead-in, accompanied by one of the maps that are becoming a hallmark of Age of Sigmar.

The final Battleplan, The Putrid Bog, pits the Fyreslayers against Pestilens, trying to topple a Warpstone Shard before the Skaven can enact their plans.

All of these fights are much more than just stand-up pitched battles, and all have their own little unique angle. When they try to root out the vampire, for example, zombies start tumbling from the roof of the cavern!

Finally, the Warscrolls. I won’t go into much detail on these as they have been well-documented in White Dwarf and the various ‘rumours’ sites. Aside from some of the heroes on foot, you have seen them already.

The Battalions, however, are worth a peek as, after some of the immense forces that have appeared in previous books (looking at you, Stormcasts!), these seem almost… doable.

The first, the Lords of the Lodge, has three characters (one of whom must be on a Magmadroth) and a single unit of Hearthguard Berzerkers. Simples.

The Warrior Kinband steps things up a bit with one leader on a Magmadroth but, even then, you just need three units of Vulkite Berzerkers to round it off. You have to figure that if you are just half-serious about Fyreslayers, you would have picked up two anyway, so this battalion might be just what you need to push you into a slightly bigger force. The Forge Brethren does pretty much the same, but with Auric Hearthguard instead (you may have less of these units but, to be honest, you probably need this many to field some effective missile fire).

And, of course, you have the silly battalion, the Grand Fyrd which requires all of the above, with two Warrior Kinbands.

As mega-battalions go, it is actually not the largest that has been published!



Conclusion
If you can get over the idea that, despite hair-dos, these are not the Slayers of old, then I think you might well get along with this book (assuming you have bought into the concept of Battletomes in the first place, not a given or even a necessity with Age of Sigmar). The artwork is first class, the Fyreslayers are an interesting development of what Trollslayers could/might become after a few thousand years of myth and social evolution, and there is nothing that strikes me as ‘silly’ or half-cocked about their background.

I would give this book an overall thumbs up. There is nothing truly negative about it, and I think the Fyreslayers are going to become a strong part of the Age of Sigmar setting.

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Great review as always, Matt! I came >THIS< close to buying this battletome (and I did buy some of the minis), but I think I'll still hold out for one of my main factions, Empire (ha, never coming!) or Vampire Counts... Or maybe Steamhead Duardin.

I don't suppose the background material talks about any non-military stuff like if they trade with nearby peoples or about the great artisans that make the Forgeholds?

I'm going to pick up the final Fyreslayer white dwarf to complete my set. Apparently the third issue will have some interesting background tidbits to enjoy :-)

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You totally are GW's main reviewer for AoS, MongooseMatt.

What I like is that there are more "previews" than before in GW shops. That's a great thing to get hyped. I could read the Fyreslayer battletome yesterday and I agree with you that's it's a great book.

I believe it's in great part because it's a whole new army with entirely new miniatures - so you didn't see the pictures in another old book before. It's the same than for Stormcast Eternals. The dwarves have also a lot of personnality...and they aren't immortals, for once.

I may be tempted to grab it just for that. Sure, some rules can be downloaded for free or found in the boxes themselves, but hey, that's not the main reason why you buy these books, isn't that?

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 Sarouan wrote:
You totally are GW's main reviewer for AoS, MongooseMatt.


Well, they could bloody well send me some books then

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Nice review. Almost got me wanting to get it.

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Thanks good review

I know its a wargame book but................

Is there much on their actual society - the other gods - Valaya?

Any info on how they live in the world ?

Any mention of any female dwarves?

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Nice review as always Matt. Would you saw the new book is worth picking up? I ask as a Dwarf player who's army is in a kind of limbo state at the moment

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I'm going through it now but your review is great and thanks so much Just a question though since this thread seems more likely to produce an actual answer than RAGETROLLGARHEVILGWRAR!!
...where does the "steamhead" dwarf thing come from? I've seen it recently in the forums. Does the tome cover different types of duardin at all, even a hint? Or is the community speculating 8th ed dwarfs will be steamhead duardin? Genuinely curious and I appreciate your insights, all. Thanks

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 War Kitten wrote:
Nice review as always Matt. Would you saw the new book is worth picking up? I ask as a Dwarf player who's army is in a kind of limbo state at the moment


 VeteranNoob wrote:

...where does the "steamhead" dwarf thing come from? I've seen it recently in the forums. Does the tome cover different types of duardin at all, even a hint? Or is the community speculating 8th ed dwarfs will be steamhead duardin? Genuinely curious and I appreciate your insights, all. Thanks


The Steamhead Duardin are (we are all presuming right now) the 'original' dwarfs as they appeared in the World-That-Was, I am guessing with the 'steam' side magnified. So, I would expect to see things like Ironbreakers and Hammerers becoming the 'main' troops (though don't bank on that, just my guess!).

The Fyreslayers book does not cover the Steamheads, it is all Fyreslayer, so if you are looking to use your old Dwarf models, you will want to wait,. On the other hand, the Fyreslayers will certainly fight alongside the Steamheads so if you wanted to get a head start on a sideline mercenary force...

 Mr Morden wrote:

I know its a wargame book but................

Is there much on their actual society - the other gods - Valaya?

Any info on how they live in the world ?

Any mention of any female dwarves?


The quick answer is no - Warhammer is a war game and so the game books will always focus on the fighty aspects of the setting (and they always have). However...

The kind of information you are looking for has always been more Black Library's thing, and the new Fyreslayers novel does start to lay out this kind of information. For example, you see some of the non-combatants of a Lodge (they are not all Berzerkers!), the relationships they have with other Lodges, the Mining Fellowship and yes, there are female dwarfs. Check out this description of one, from the novel...

"Amsaralka was breathtakingly beautiful. He took in her massive shoulders, her strong, heavy miner's arms. Her feet were delightfully huge, and he suspected the toes (he often dreamt of her toes, when life was slow) hidden behind her steel toe-caps to be exquisitely blunt. Her hair was gathered into two tresses, thick as an ogor's golden torcs, and as lustrous. Her face was wide and square, her eyes attractively far apart. She had a broad mouth and full lips, behind which hid white teeth as evenly placed as bricks."

Clearly a looker!




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MongooseMatt wrote:
 War Kitten wrote:
Nice review as always Matt. Would you saw the new book is worth picking up? I ask as a Dwarf player who's army is in a kind of limbo state at the moment


 VeteranNoob wrote:

...where does the "steamhead" dwarf thing come from? I've seen it recently in the forums. Does the tome cover different types of duardin at all, even a hint? Or is the community speculating 8th ed dwarfs will be steamhead duardin? Genuinely curious and I appreciate your insights, all. Thanks


The Steamhead Duardin are (we are all presuming right now) the 'original' dwarfs as they appeared in the World-That-Was, I am guessing with the 'steam' side magnified. So, I would expect to see things like Ironbreakers and Hammerers becoming the 'main' troops (though don't bank on that, just my guess!).

The Fyreslayers book does not cover the Steamheads, it is all Fyreslayer, so if you are looking to use your old Dwarf models, you will want to wait,. On the other hand, the Fyreslayers will certainly fight alongside the Steamheads so if you wanted to get a head start on a sideline mercenary force...

 Mr Morden wrote:

I know its a wargame book but................

Is there much on their actual society - the other gods - Valaya?

Any info on how they live in the world ?

Any mention of any female dwarves?


The quick answer is no - Warhammer is a war game and so the game books will always focus on the fighty aspects of the setting (and they always have). However...

The kind of information you are looking for has always been more Black Library's thing, and the new Fyreslayers novel does start to lay out this kind of information. For example, you see some of the non-combatants of a Lodge (they are not all Berzerkers!), the relationships they have with other Lodges, the Mining Fellowship and yes, there are female dwarfs. Check out this description of one, from the novel...

"Amsaralka was breathtakingly beautiful. He took in her massive shoulders, her strong, heavy miner's arms. Her feet were delightfully huge, and he suspected the toes (he often dreamt of her toes, when life was slow) hidden behind her steel toe-caps to be exquisitely blunt. Her hair was gathered into two tresses, thick as an ogor's golden torcs, and as lustrous. Her face was wide and square, her eyes attractively far apart. She had a broad mouth and full lips, behind which hid white teeth as evenly placed as bricks."

Clearly a looker!



Thanks - thats exactly what I wanted to know

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"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

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Mr Morden wrote:Thanks good review

Is there much on their actual society - the other gods - Valaya?


Valaya 'died' in the end times and the only ones mentioned so far are Grungni and Grimnir

MongooseMatt wrote:

 VeteranNoob wrote:

...where does the "steamhead" dwarf thing come from? I've seen it recently in the forums. Does the tome cover different types of duardin at all, even a hint? Or is the community speculating 8th ed dwarfs will be steamhead duardin? Genuinely curious and I appreciate your insights, all. Thanks


The Steamhead Duardin are (we are all presuming right now) the 'original' dwarfs as they appeared in the World-That-Was, I am guessing with the 'steam' side magnified. So, I would expect to see things like Ironbreakers and Hammerers becoming the 'main' troops (though don't bank on that, just my guess!).



That's what I'm thinking as well. The Steamhead are a different faction, representing the 'original' dwarfs. I guess we'll see a re-boxing of the new kits released with the 8th ed book, plus a few new kits to round them out. I'd wager a flying machine and some characters.
   
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Ashitaka wrote:
Mr Morden wrote:Thanks good review

Is there much on their actual society - the other gods - Valaya?


Valaya 'died' in the end times and the only ones mentioned so far are Grungni and Grimnir

MongooseMatt wrote:

 VeteranNoob wrote:

...where does the "steamhead" dwarf thing come from? I've seen it recently in the forums. Does the tome cover different types of duardin at all, even a hint? Or is the community speculating 8th ed dwarfs will be steamhead duardin? Genuinely curious and I appreciate your insights, all. Thanks


The Steamhead Duardin are (we are all presuming right now) the 'original' dwarfs as they appeared in the World-That-Was, I am guessing with the 'steam' side magnified. So, I would expect to see things like Ironbreakers and Hammerers becoming the 'main' troops (though don't bank on that, just my guess!).



That's what I'm thinking as well. The Steamhead are a different faction, representing the 'original' dwarfs. I guess we'll see a re-boxing of the new kits released with the 8th ed book, plus a few new kits to round them out. I'd wager a flying machine and some characters.


Everything except Sigmar, the Skaven and the lizard men, maybe some Elves died - stuff has coem back from final death. No reason Valaya won;t be back

"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos

"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/528517.page

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The quick answer is no - Warhammer is a war game and so the game books will always focus on the fighty aspects of the setting (and they always have). However...

The kind of information you are looking for has always been more Black Library's thing, and the new Fyreslayers novel does start to lay out this kind of information. For example, you see some of the non-combatants of a Lodge (they are not all Berzerkers!), the relationships they have with other Lodges, the Mining Fellowship and yes, there are female dwarfs. Check out this description of one, from the novel...

"Amsaralka was breathtakingly beautiful. He took in her massive shoulders, her strong, heavy miner's arms. Her feet were delightfully huge, and he suspected the toes (he often dreamt of her toes, when life was slow) hidden behind her steel toe-caps to be exquisitely blunt. Her hair was gathered into two tresses, thick as an ogor's golden torcs, and as lustrous. Her face was wide and square, her eyes attractively far apart. She had a broad mouth and full lips, behind which hid white teeth as evenly placed as bricks."

Clearly a looker!


Am I wrong to be thinking



"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos

"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

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