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With the new Middle-earth Rules Manual and the Armies of The Lord of The Rings™ book gathering all the aforementioned forces and rules for easy reference, we’ll be supporting the game going forward with a series of in-depth campaign books designed to explore the most iconic moments from the series.

The first of these will be Gondor at War, covering the events of the War of the Ring as it sweeps across Gondor, from the ambush at Ithilien and the fall of Osgiliath to the Battle of Pelennor Fields and the march on the Black Gate of Mordor itself. You’ll find tactical primers, loads of scenarios and rewards for theming your army to the forces that fought in this time of war – like King Théoden’s final epic charge.

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News is trickling out of Nottingham about Adam Troke's "state of the game" presentation at Throne of Skulls. It seems like the game may be rebranded as "Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game." One attendee on Facebook posted:
Feel gutted for the people who didn't get to come to ToS and hear from Adam Troke. Fantastic stuff he had to say, not sure exactly what we are and aren't aloud to post but needless to say the hobby is safe with Adam and we are getting NEW stuff guaranteed!
Another poster has said there was mentioned of reissuing OOP models.

And from another poster:
What adam said though is he wants us to email them and tell him what we want to see come back and also what we want new.

Send in photos of our painted models and literally support our Middle Earth hobby! Without the support we have shown this hobby in recent years he literally couldn't have got the energy from GW put back in!
And again:
Middle Earth SBG. New stuff and Old stuff to be released! There's your headline from me.

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In short: bring back the old LOTR tabletop. It was, by miles head, the best ruleset GW has ever produced. Streamlined, easy to get into, great visuals and a very balanced yet still diverse ruleset.

   
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Excellent news! I eagerly await more!

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Wow, that is hopeful news! It would be amazing if community support were able to keep this game alive!

   
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Gosport, UK

That's cool, I always wished I'd got into LotR strategy game when it was big.
   
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I've been waiting with trepidation for LotR and the Hobbit to disappear after the film hype wound down, so this sounds promising to me! The thing that put me off playing LotR as a tabletop game is that everybody wants to play as the good guys and nobody wants to play as the Orcs. It'd be helpful if they could include some sort of civil war system to permit Good vs Good combat - then I may be persuaded to get into a bit more.

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I'd play as the bad guys! They're the coolest part. I really liked the Harad expansion they did with the tribal Haradrim guys and the half trolls.
   
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 Warpig1815 wrote:
I've been waiting with trepidation for LotR and the Hobbit to disappear after the film hype wound down, so this sounds promising to me! The thing that put me off playing LotR as a tabletop game is that everybody wants to play as the good guys and nobody wants to play as the Orcs. It'd be helpful if they could include some sort of civil war system to permit Good vs Good combat - then I may be persuaded to get into a bit more.


Good on Good (or Evil on Evil) matches are commonplace in practice; the early days of the game, the narrative element was very heavy, but in the last few years, points matched and more symmetrical games have become the norm. So you're just as likely to see Elves bashing Rohirrim as Orcs marauding across Gondor. At times, it does bug me a little actually, but LotR is so rare these day that anything is better than nothing!

Also, put me down as at least one person who loves playing Orcs, hordes of utterly expendable guys backed by Nazgul throwing around all kinds of magical nastiness is so much fun to use!

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They have a release plan up until 2020.
New stuff will be done the FW way.
There will be a new book by the end of the year and the current sourcebooks are going into printing now
We also got to find out why the Battle of five armies release was so small. New Lines barely gave them anything to work with as they changed everything half way through the production process. The result was GW staff did not find out what most of it was until the film came out. Plus side is the initial projects are to fill the gaps.

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ImAGeek wrote:I'd play as the bad guys! They're the coolest part. I really liked the Harad expansion they did with the tribal Haradrim guys and the half trolls.


Despite always being drawn to the Rohirrim and the Twin Kingdoms, I've often thought that if I was to get into playing it, I'd paint up an Evil army (Probably Angmar) simply to keep it fluffy and to get some proper narrative battles. Not that it matters as I'll probably never get around to actually playing any wargame .

Paradigm wrote:
 Warpig1815 wrote:
I've been waiting with trepidation for LotR and the Hobbit to disappear after the film hype wound down, so this sounds promising to me! The thing that put me off playing LotR as a tabletop game is that everybody wants to play as the good guys and nobody wants to play as the Orcs. It'd be helpful if they could include some sort of civil war system to permit Good vs Good combat - then I may be persuaded to get into a bit more.


Good on Good (or Evil on Evil) matches are commonplace in practice; the early days of the game, the narrative element was very heavy, but in the last few years, points matched and more symmetrical games have become the norm. So you're just as likely to see Elves bashing Rohirrim as Orcs marauding across Gondor. At times, it does bug me a little actually, but LotR is so rare these day that anything is better than nothing!

Also, put me down as at least one person who loves playing Orcs, hordes of utterly expendable guys backed by Nazgul throwing around all kinds of magical nastiness is so much fun to use!


It's a shame because there are actually instances of Elves vs Elves, Elves vs Dwarves, Gondor vs Gondor, Rohirrim vs Dwarves, Arnor vs Gondor and Arnor vs Arnor in the books themselves - they just don't see the light of day because, as part of the Silmarillion, they didn't get fleshed out enough by Tolkien before his death. Then there's the case that the Tolkien Estate won't sell the rights for any of the First Age events so some of these events couldn't be portrayed through GW Material. It's a pity because there is a lot of scope for LotR SBG, it just needs a little fleshing out by a team who can write sympathetically with Tolkien's own work.

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LotR was the only tabletop game that I actually enjoyed playing with rather than just painting for display. If it got a new lease of life and some more model support I would be all over it!

I had always wanted an Isengard army but the models got a massive price hike and the number of models were halved which I think was part of the appeal for the game, cheap, massed ranks of infantry.

   
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 Optio wrote:
They have a release plan up until 2020.
New stuff will be done the FW way.
There will be a new book by the end of the year and the current sourcebooks are going into printing now
We also got to find out why the Battle of five armies release was so small. New Lines barely gave them anything to work with as they changed everything half way through the production process. The result was GW staff did not find out what most of it was until the film came out. Plus side is the initial projects are to fill the gaps.


Sounds promising, big fan of both the SBG and WOTR
   
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is this the 1st rules set as in 'Fellowship of the Ring' with single minis or the 2nd set which had the movement trays for units?


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I loved playing Mordor/Harad back in the day. But then I play Orcs in pretty much any game system I can...

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Never really had the chance to play it as there was exactly zero interest in the whole thing here, in my country. Though, I guess, now this would be accepted more positively

   
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I eagerly await how this plays out!

Between my wife's Galadrhim and my Gondor and Isenguard, I'd easily be interested in picking up Arnor, Rohan and Angmar to add to our collection!

Such a fun game.

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 Optio wrote:
They have a release plan up until 2020.
New stuff will be done the FW way.
There will be a new book by the end of the year and the current sourcebooks are going into printing now
We also got to find out why the Battle of five armies release was so small. New Lines barely gave them anything to work with as they changed everything half way through the production process. The result was GW staff did not find out what most of it was until the film came out. Plus side is the initial projects are to fill the gaps.


This is great, well sort of. I mean great it will be up to 2020. Sad it will be FW way. Does that mean FW way is only by mail only?

I just wish GW would have been upfront about LotR. I never got into it fearing it would end and be gutted so for over 10 years thinking it was the last and wasn't I haven't bought anything. This is where talking to your customers would have been great, I would have bought so much and invested into LotR. Not know, it was an investment I didn't want to make.

Knowing we have 4 yeas, maybe I will finally start now.

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We already knew that the Middle Earth stuff was under FW now' FW has three sections now, HH and 40k and AoS, Specialist Games, and Middle Earth. But it doesn't preclude them doing plastic kits through GW (Betrayal at Calth was the first 'Specialist Games' project from what I remember from whatever FW event this info was from).
   
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Really great news! The Hobbit is pretty popular here in my area for a game that was said to be dead soon. A tournament with 100 players was booked out in about a week.
https://www.tabletopturniere.de/t3_tournament.php?tid=16406

   
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 Sigvatr wrote:
It was, by miles head, the best ruleset GW has ever produced.


Debatable. I hate the game.

This isn't unexpected given the slightly more sensible course that GW have been plotting recently.

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 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
Who said it was dead?
Lots of people figured it was headed that way.

More from Facebook:
Sourcebooks are being re-printed in three weeks
New Sourcebook (Most likely BoFA) is being released by the end of the Calendar year
Out of Production models will be released again in Forgeworld Resin
Due to the cost of Forgeworld resin, terrain kits will no longer be sold and instead replaced with battle boards (possibly)
Dain (Not on Pig) was shown and apparently looks better than anything we have ever seen. No pictures were taken to show us.
Adam Troke has is guaranteed to work on Middle Earth SBG for Four Years!! That is Four more years of models released
No mention of a new rulebook but there not be an Age of Sigmar type deal. My guess is that it will be Weapons Rules and Monster rules that will get tweaked. Game is said to largely stay the same.
New Game will be called Middle Earth SBG
The New game will start to go into the Lord of the Rings Appendices and Hobbit Appendices for material after the BoFA is done

   
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I guess we will see a new Starter Set too?
   
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As somebody that missed out on the original release of the game, the hype and brilliant looking minis that followed. Well... I'll be all over this if it's reasonably priced. I'm quite envious of the model value from what I've read about the initial launch of LOTR.

GW proper and Forgeworld are expensive enough hobbies to be a part of in terms of miniature gaming, hearing that the re-releases will be Forgeworld resin doesn't fill me with hope. I'd pick up the fellowship for painting, regardless but I'll not be buying armies if the usual Forgeworld tax applies.

Exciting news though, GW continues to surprise (in a nice way these days!) and impress with it's latest direction.
   
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That is the less encouraging part, it has to be said. LotR was up until a few years ago very cheap to get into even at full RRP, if it's all FW all the time then that'll go even more out the window than it already is. I do wonder if the plastics will see a price reduction back to civilised levels, though (or rather, a reboxing with more minis but only a middling price increase, like some of the AoS repacks). I doubt we'll see anything close to the £15-24 models glory days, but if we get even a little reduction in overall cost then that would offset the more extensive stuff and make the game much more accessible. Heck, I'd take a couple of Start Collecting sets that bundled a few sprues and some discount!

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Yeah, they really need to go back to what made the game so popular in the first place and give you tons of plastic minis at sane prices, like those bundles. FW producing the models doesn't bode well, though.

If it's going to have the same "premium" pricing it had during the Hobbit years they might as well not bother, honestly.

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I don't mind FW resin and pricing for characters and special stuff, I don't think FW resin was more expensive than finecast anyway, was it? Certainly not in Australia

What they need to do is release some of the BoFA stuff in plastic and not charge stupidly high prices for it like they did for the first 2 movies. $40 for 10 models was a higher price than Middle-earth fans were willing to bear.

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Even without miniatures being greenlit by New Line, GW should have just re-released The Battle of the Five Armies. I missed that the first time around, and wish I hadn't.



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