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That's a chariot base, right?

It is, indeed.

It is also used by the Sepulchral Stalkers/Necropolis Knights.

The sphinx make it look tiny.

You know everyone keeps going on and on about the big nasties in the book, as well WS6 units of Tomb Guard and such - how about just simply huge hordes of spear armed skeletons? Say 60 or so big, horde formation with a Tomb King up front. Thats ALOT of attacks at WS6 at a pretty cheap cost. Oh yeah then throw in KB on these guys? Wow.

From everything I'm reading, it looks like Tomb Kings will fit great into 8th edition of huge units not giving up victory points. Say 2 big blocks of regular skellies, backed up by a couple archer units, throw in some chariot units to flank opponents tied up with the "big blocks of skellies you can't ever destroy". Thats even before you throw in Scorpions or such for warmachine hunting.

Yes having some big monsters is nice, but then again, much like the Arachnarock spider - they are very expensive and can cost you the game if you lose them (VP of 100 or more deciding). I'm sure every list will be flavored by the owner's taste (maybe a big unit of special choices), but if folks decide to go heavy core choices, I think it'll be a very competitive list.

The chariot legions of the Tomb Kings have ever been a formidable sight. They can field an entire army on chariots, each of which will deliver D6 Impact Hits on the charge. When ranked up, chariots can add +1 Strength for every rank in the unit. Which means a unit of six Skeleton Chariots (in two ranks of three) will inflict 3D6 Strength 5 Impact Hits on the charge!

I wonder how much that can stack!

Didn't you already post that last page

Unless it changes in the new book, TK chariots are "light" chariots, meaning they only give you D3 impact hits instead of D6. Still, better than a sharp stick in the eye, and a favorite core choice for me, but not quite as devastating as a regular D6.

Strelka wrote:Unless it changes in the new book

Apparently it has changed.

It has, they are normal chariots now, do D6 impact hits and now cost 55 points.

So more expensive but more hurt on the charge, but with how this edition works with combat I'm not sure how great that will be compared to some of the other things you can take with the new army book.

Last edition a unit of TK chariots would usually basically wipe the first row of the enemies block giving them basically a free turn in combat, now...well we'll see, if the chariots are still only 3 wounds with a 5+ save...could be iffy.

Could someone post the pics in a new thread, or update the first post, so that it's possible to look at them without about 40 mouse clicks?

asmith wrote:Could someone post the pics in a new thread, or update the first post, so that it's possible to look at them without about 40 mouse clicks?

From nuts and bolts -- Next to the set of page numbers is a button that says "go". Click it, and then punch in the page number you want to go to.

Thanks!

Why there is such an aversion to having new threads in News and rumors is beyond me though...

The idea is not to drown other topics in a flurry of different threads all reporting about the same news item.

kirsanth wrote:From nuts and bolts -- Next to the set of page numbers is a button that says "go". Click it, and then punch in the page number you want to go to.

Blooooody Nora. All my time on Dakka and I never realised that.

Manchu wrote:The idea is not to drown other topics in a flurry of different threads all reporting about the same news item.

Unfortunately the way the system works now it is virtually impossible to find news or rumors without reading 30 irrelevant pages with the current system. I'm sure it works fine for people who are on dakka all day everyday, but I find it's pretty worthless.

asmith wrote:

Manchu wrote:The idea is not to drown other topics in a flurry of different threads all reporting about the same news item.

Unfortunately the way the system works now it is virtually impossible to find news or rumors without reading 30 irrelevant pages with the current system. I'm sure it works fine for people who are on dakka all day everyday, but I find it's pretty worthless.

I understand where you are comming from. Warseer for example , they edit later info backs to the first post in first page.
This way we dont have to go through 30+ pages correct?

The OP is always free to do just that...

Lol, and anyway Mr. kirsanth already explained how to navigate the thread. Kids today . . .

Does anyone know if they are continuing with the old battalion or bringing out a new one?

kastellan wrote:Does anyone know if they are continuing with the old battalion or bringing out a new one?

From what I've heard, they're getting a new, inferior battalion.

Old:
32 TK infantry, 8 cavalry, 3 chariots for 50 pounds
New:
40 TK infantry, 8 cavalry, 3 chariots for 70 pounds

AlexHolker wrote:

kastellan wrote:Does anyone know if they are continuing with the old battalion or bringing out a new one?

From what I've heard, they're getting a new, inferior battalion.

Old:
32 TK infantry, 8 cavalry, 3 chariots for 50 pounds
New:
40 TK infantry, 8 cavalry, 3 chariots for 70 pounds

It will be going up to $120 US too. Ouch!

I have actually been told from a few sources that the info from GW says that the contents are not changing at all in the Battalian, just a huge price increase. Distribution/Sales info says "Package change only" and a jump from $90 to $120! Completely insane!

My LGS should be getting the book in on either Thursday or Friday.

Some guy over on Warseer has seen the book and is sharing the info with people.

I'm not trying to justify GW or anything, but this potential price increase may mean less/more as the Battalion would likely come with the newer miniatures of a 2nd wave, where more of the core units are being done IIRC.
So a price increase may not be seen as so bad if it were to come with new models...

Wow, time to get out and find some of those old ones.

Just Dave wrote:I'm not trying to justify GW or anything, but this potential price increase may mean less/more as the Battalion would likely come with the newer miniatures of a 2nd wave, where more of the core units are being done IIRC.

Wayland Games already has it on preorder, so I doubt that.

So, i just read the army book. Looks cool. I'm excited. A few things that struck me:

1) The War Sphinx is really cheep. Fully upgraded it costs just under 250. At that point level, all its attacks are poison (but not the attacks of the crew), and it has a str. 4 breath weapon in addition to its thunderstomp and super-duper-template-stomp.
2) The necropolis knights can take an upgrade in order to get the new ICFB rule. The new IFCB (entombed in the sands) has a nicer misfire chart than the old one.
3) The Hierotitan is cool. It has 3 bound spells and every time a wizard casts a tomb king lore spell within 12(?) inches there is a bonus to the casting total.
4) The casket of souls adds d3 dice to your power pool.
5) Tomb guard are only one point cheaper than before, and the halberd upgrade is another two points.
6) Swarms are now special, no longer limited to one unit.
7) There is a hero level character that gives the unit it is in hatred. It costs somewhere around 50 or 60 points.
8) The cavalry are what we thought they were.
9) There is no limit to extra strength for chariot ranks. Each chariot crew member has two attacks.


All in all, these new tomb kings are an army of synergy. There is no all star unit in this army, but when used in combination with each other the different units make what I would rank as a slightly above average army book. I am excited.

-Jim

p.s. I just want to point out that if someone wanted to, he could fit 8-9 sphinxes into a single 3k list. Not that I am recommending that, but I'm sure someone will at least toy with the idea.

In a way, I kind of look forward to the cool conversions people are going to be making for Necropolis Knights. I can't imagine many people will be buying the crazy expensive, and crazy silly, kits. Should be some cool things.

I expect skeletons riding giant dung beetles.

I'm going to glue them to the backs of live goliath beetles. Everything the knock over is a kill for me!

Did the last battalion only allow you to make X amount of archers & the rest had to be something else? I think I vaguely remember that- & this one you can do whatever your little heart desires. Still $120...*insert joke about needing to rob actual ancient Egyptian tomb to pay for new TK*

vitki wrote:I'm going to glue them to the backs of live goliath beetles. Everything the knock over is a kill for me!

I want to see them riding huge skeleton lions.