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That sergeant looks so serious the way his eyes are painted

This is good though, that means they should be here soon. I live roughly 6-8 hours away from their company, so I should get mine (hopefully) soon. I probably shouldn't have bought two boxes, now I've got 54 of the little buggers (and the gunny) to paint Although I have to admit, that is a bit of a steal for $60...

EDIT: Oh, and just a bit of news I just found out. The preorder bonus that gets you the free gunny figure is almost over. However, for guys who missed the preorder on the gunny and are still wanting him, you've still got a chance to get him.

In response to a post on the forums about how long the gunny will be available as a bonus (http://www.defiancegames.com/index.php/forum/defiance-games-general-discussion/4841-question-about-limited-gunney-fig#4853) Tony said this

Tony wrote:
We've gone one better - in the Marine boxes is a promo code that will allow you to get a free Gunny with any order placed between now and the end of May!

(Which should cover Bugs and Germans!)

So essentially, when the bugs and germans come out, you'll have a code in the box to get a free gunny with those purchases too. At least thats what I'm seeing from this. I posted a question in the thread to ask him whether the code is in all marine boxes or only the ones that ship after the preorder. I'll edit in his answer if he responds.

Brother SRM, what whacky type of postage stamps do they sell over in your part of the world?

Brunius wrote:Brother SRM, what whacky type of postage stamps do they sell over in your part of the world?

Just a complaint that the images they upload are a bit on the small side is all!

Here's a test model for one of the Germans:

Shipping madness continues here at Defiance Games and we will be finished getting the Marine orders out the door in the next couple days.

A ginormous THANK YOU to all of you who have ordered and made our very first product launch such a success!

But there is no rest for the wicked! A set of Marines is no good without opponents to pit them against!

First up will be the Bugs!

The Bug molds are coming together nicely and we expect to have the first production-ready parts in the next few days. As long as everything looks good the Bugs will go straight into production and when we have enough stock built up we'll release them.

And then it's onto the Germans!

Sculpt-meister Tim Barry has been refining his original sculpture to push the limits on what can be done in hard plastic with this design. We're finalizing the parts, poses, and options this week and they will be going off to molding as soon as we're done. Let us know what you think!

Original posting here.

They made the body pudgier and the head as comically large as the USMC. They also dropped the diamond texture from the pants.

It's a step in the completely wrong direction, but it still looks nice.

Heads look about the right size to me if you compare them to photos of modern soldiers.

Considering the head on them has to take into account the helmet's size as well as the dudes noggin inside of it, I don't really see it as being altogether too much of a problem to be honest.

Glad they got rid of the diamond texture, and I hope that a painted version doesn't look too busy.

Absolutionis wrote:They made the body pudgier and the head as comically large as the USMC. They also dropped the diamond texture from the pants.

It's a step in the completely wrong direction, but it still looks nice.

A lot of people hated the diamond pattern on the forums, hence why they removed it.

As for the head size, any smaller and it would like kind of wierd I would think. They're shooting for a mix between the "heroic" and "realistic" scales, and that's probably the best medium they can get. Any smaller, and the helmet will look paper thin. You gotta remember that's more than a steel pot that guy is wearing, that's got comms and other gear in it. Add in the face mask and respirator, and I'm surprised his head isn't bigger

My main concern though is wondering if their mold will be able to handle a model this complex. If they can pull this off, they'll make my cadian guardsmen look like those little green army men from the dollar store. I'm sure a few details will be lost in the mold, there's no way they can pull off that much detail for cheaper than GW is charging. Although I would love to be proven wrong

Certain areas like the rifle and the forearms especially look amazing (to me at least) Can't wait to get some!

The heads, with helmet, seem pretty much in line with what I see from most minis manufacturers. Plus, once you put a helmet on someone, with all the padding, armor, and mask, their head is going to look very large. Plus, it's useful to keep in mind that these guys use the same "heroic" aesthetic that most 28mm minis companies (and most 15mm companies for that matter)I can cite use -- oversized heads, weapons, and other identifying details to make them visible from the normal several-foot viewing distance of your average gaming miniature.

The Diamond weave is a mesh that multiple people commented on disliking, particularly because it departed heavily from the original design.


The original concept art and the production art for reference:




Plus, German heavy weapons concept art (for a later set)

im pretty hppy with how the german turned out!

Wow if these Germans turn out as good if not better than that test figure I will be sold!

Helmetless German with grenade launcher:

I asked Tim to show us a little more of the Panzergrenadiers. This one has the same basic body parts (toros/legs) but is holding the dedicated Grenade Launcher and has the field cap instead of the helmet.

The set will have enough helmets to outfit ALL your troops but we'll also have a variety of field caps and bare heads (both male and female). You will be able to turn this into an all-female set if you choose.

I underlined a detail that I know is very important to some of you.

Hmmmm, they cut down on the front sight a bit (that thing was enormous orginally) but I wonder if people will still complain. I'm not a fan personally, but thats what exacto knives are for

Also, really diggin the field caps. It's going to be a tough decision between the helmet and the caps, and I'm sure people are going to be excited about having enough heads for an all female squad. The way DFG is talking, they've got 2 helmet heads, 2 male field cap/bare heads, and probably 2 female field cap/bare heads as well. Should offer a good variety as well as plenty of extra cool heads for the bits box

Those look really, really good.

Interesting development. The final product will be the one to judge though imo.

Oh and I should really update the title...

I am liking the Panzergrenadier. Is that a digital render or an actual sculpted piece?

Kanluwen wrote:I am liking the Panzergrenadier. Is that a digital render or an actual sculpted piece?

I'm actually not 100% sure if it's a 3D model with a really good material applied or a resin cast. Here's another image:


I've got to say I really do like rifle that's sort of subtly reminiscent on the G36 rifle with the grip under the sight rail. I don't know how much of that is conscious on their part and how much of that is wishful thinking on my part (I love me some G36C in Battlefield) but I really like the gun designs.

Wow with each passing shot I know I have to get these guys and maybe pick up a copy of Tomorrow's War to use these guys! I really like the marines, but these Germans are full of pure win for me.

I have to agree I love the G36 look to the weapons. They really pulled them off well. I can hardly wait to see what the sprues look like!

It's a render. Pretty impressive stuff. One of the issues with renders, though, is that it sort of leads to a mental image of a figure ten thousand times the actual size of the mini. To give an idea of scale, the rails on the UAMC rifle are about the size of finger print ridges. I'm assuming that the German rails will be similar.

That's actually a really good point.

Perhaps a render with a small fire team shown instead of one huge model that fills up the whole picture might be a good way to go.

liking the germans more and more

I like the big renders since they really show off the nitty gritty detail we'll be painting. I am looking forward to seeing some plastic though, as that will be what makes or breaks them obviously.

God damn those guns are awesome. Really looking forward to this release. Wonder if the heads will be compatible with Mantic Corporation miniatures.

Wow, the Panzergrenadiers actually look good so far. I personally think that the Marines look dire and wasn't too interested in Defiance's stuff, but the Germans may change my mind.

They need to fix those helmets. The fluting on the back extends too far down and makes the helmet look silly. Also, the detail around the goggle is way too "soft" there needs to be more definition beteen the two IMO. Otherwise they look great and I'll probably end up buying a dozen or so boxes lol.

Personally, I want to see them show what the Germans look like with the backpack attached. That's the element that really adds the heavy infantry "bulk," I think.

The problem is the posture of the figure doesn't look like it is wearing a heavy ruck. Same with the Marines. Guys with a ruck on stand a lot differently than a guy without.

Trust me, I have a tiny bit of experience in this.

I'm sold on the Germans. As soon as they are actually produced and shipping as well as me finding a proper job I will most likely buy a box or five.

The German guns, at least in these pictures, looks really good.

CptJake wrote:The problem is the posture of the figure doesn't look like it is wearing a heavy ruck. Same with the Marines. Guys with a ruck on stand a lot differently than a guy without.

Trust me, I have a tiny bit of experience in this.

THIS!

I keep saying and saying and saying that soldiers who don't look like pack mules don't look right!

Has anyone received these yet?