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Not really? Attack him first; if he doesn't have The Snapping Branch yet (and NPCs usually don't) you have a good chance at succeeding, and if it is indeed archer spam he won't stand a chance.

Durthu himself is a badass - I have seen him smash Cygors clean off their feet - but he can't win alone.

The key against wood elves is just to put shields on your stuff. Shielded minotaurs are extremely effective (less so standard ones - I have wiped four squads of them by sending in Durthu as a tarpit and then shooting the gnards out of them).

 Ashiraya wrote:
Not really? Attack him first; if he doesn't have The Snapping Branch yet (and NPCs usually don't) you have a good chance at succeeding, and if it is indeed archer spam he won't stand a chance.

Durthu himself is a badass - I have seen him smash Cygors clean off their feet - but he can't win alone.

The key against wood elves is just to put shields on your stuff. Shielded minotaurs are extremely effective (less so standard ones - I have wiped four squads of them by sending in Durthu as a tarpit and then shooting the gnards out of them).

oh yea shields give extra armor against arrows, I forgot. How would shielded Gors do?

Isn't there friendly fire though?

 lord marcus wrote:
Isn't there friendly fire though?

There is, but in the example I gave Durthu largely ignores the arrows due to being a single model and having a good HP pool with high armor, especially when upgraded - and you will want the combat upgrades, because Wood Elf characters have unusually powerful characteristics bonuses in their talent tree, which serves to make Durthu utterly destroy everything he comes across.

 Tiger9gamer wrote:
oh yea shields give extra armor against arrows, I forgot. How would shielded Gors do?

Shielded gors are okay. They do not have good armor but the -50% damage taken from arrows still makes them the option of choice against massed archers.

Keep shielded units in front to absorb fire, and units with twohanded or dual weapons behind; the enemy either shoots your shielded units and suffer the DPS loss, or they shoot the squishy units they protect and lose both DPS uptime (as they will have less time to shoot before the shielded units hit them) and accuracy.

Against larger forest spirits (treekin/treemen) great weapon Minotaurs are your answer. High armour-piercing non-magical damage with anti-large is perfect. Be sure to get Cygors when up against Wood Elves, as they are immensely valuable as long as you keep them out of melee.

Surprisingly, Ungor Skirmishers are not too shabby against Wood Elf archers. Their accuracy is worse, as is their leadership, but Skirmishers are very cheap and the Wood Elves' lack of armour makes them very vulnerable to enemy archers.

Thanks for the advice! Unfortunatly I landed in a spot last night where there was no way I could survive before I recruited the good units, so everyone died =( and I just got to shielded minotaurs too. It's odd because I never had this much trouble in the Eye for an Eye class

Now I'm trying vamp counts again with vlad... so much easier.

So the white dwarf is officially available. I started a new campaign to mark his release. Anyone else finding the student of grungni perk to be the best?

Yup, with that he is easy mode. Especially early in the game.

Can't seem to find that, whats it do?

Bonus to trade, construction cost, and gold production.

The Bretonians finally alive (for free) on the 28th.

I suspect if they tried to charge us for them the fans would riot since the Brets have been around (as an AI faction) since launch

 War Kitten wrote:
I suspect if they tried to charge us for them the fans would riot since the Brets have been around (as an AI faction) since launch

More importantly, they said way back when the game launched that the Bretonians would be free.

Eumerin wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
I suspect if they tried to charge us for them the fans would riot since the Brets have been around (as an AI faction) since launch

More importantly, they said way back when the game launched that the Bretonians would be free.

Yup.

Can't wait to ride down the first of the lady with 2 armies. 1 a doomstack, the other entirely made up of mounted yeoman archers and majority knights errant.

Eumerin wrote:
More importantly, they said way back when the game launched that the Bretonians would be free.

Because the knew what the response would be if they tried to charge for something that was already in the game. Never attribute to generosity what can just as easily be attributed to prudent PR work.

I've just played Total War Warhammer, and there's a bizarre thing that when I click on Campaign, after the cutscene, it returns to the Main Menu, and the Savegamehotfix patch is no longer available, how do I fix it?

Usually when I have a problem with a Total War game, its an out of date mod. Try disabling "out of date" mods, or test them individually to find the culprit.

Isabella von carstien has been announced as free LC if and only if total war wins "make war not love" this year.

Anyone caught the livestream regarding the Brets? I am watching a few vids on youtube and it looks pretty nice, the only thing I am not super fond of are the foot squires.

Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9roTmGwjs9o Green Knight confirmed, too, which is cool

 lord marcus wrote:
Isabella von carstien has been announced as free LC if and only if total war wins "make war not love" this year.

It did. She'll arrive at the end of the month with the Bretonians.

 Bobthehero wrote:
Anyone caught the livestream regarding the Brets? I am watching a few vids on youtube and it looks pretty nice, the only thing I am not super fond of are the foot squires.

Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9roTmGwjs9o Green Knight confirmed, too, which is cool

I can't remember if they had the peasant knights or another unit in the roster. Poor bretonnia didn't get a whole lot in the first place before the game blew up.

They fid not, I think what irks me is that they are essentially the same model as questing knights

 Bobthehero wrote:
They fid not, I think what irks me is that they are essentially the same model as questing knights

CA specifically said units which are going to be in the game but who were not in the latest edition of the army book were made in tandem with the tabletop design studio. Apparenly from notes the studio had regarding new units to be added (before the world blew up)

I know about that, I don't like the model they're using for squires is all, I'd like it more if it wasn't a Questing knight on foot.

Is it kosher to give away extra game keys on Dakka? If so, I have a free key for Warhammer: TW. First PM from non-spammer gets it.

I finally caved and bought the game. It's currently $12 on Humble Bundle! Now I just have to wait three days for the thing to download...

Just in time for the new Brets, so its kind of a mixed blessing

 Bobthehero wrote:
Just in time for the new Brets, so its kind of a mixed blessing

Of the lady?

IIRC, there was mention that a new edition of the game would be released alongside the Bretonians. However, the Brets and Isabella (Isabella will be based out of Western Sylvania; Vlad will be relocated there as well) are now listed on Steam (you can't download them yet, though), and there's no mention of the new edition of the game.

So we'll see what happens.


Barring any last minute surprises (Skaven, or possibly Tomb Kings with an extension of the map to the south; the northern end of the map in the Tomb Kings book is just a bit south of the southern edge of the current campaign map), Bretonnia rounds out the list of races for this release. Creative Assembly has mentioned that there are still some DLC/FLC on the way, so we're probably looking at a few new faction leaders with new starting locations. However, more important in my opinion is looking forward to the next game.

Best guess is that the games will be split like this -

Game #2 heads west. High Elves, Dark Elves, Lizardmen, and Skaven of Lustria. Plus possibly the Daemons of Chaos threatening from the North.

That means game #3 will sweep east and south. Ogres, more Skaven and Greenskins (because there are a lot of them out that way), Tomb Kings (because there's no where else for them to go), possibly the Chaos Dwarfs as well if CA decides to include them. Daemons if they don't appear in the second game. Definite grab bag appearance to it. But it's what's left over. A campaign map that combines this game with the first game would definitely make the Dwarf campaign more difficult...


While CA has not released any details about the next TWW game, they have confirmed that work on it is in full swing (they're also working on another historical game that they haven't announced yet). So hopefully we'll hear something soon.

We're overdue for Empire II: Total War.

 LordofHats wrote:
We're overdue for Empire II: Total War.

Maybe, although iirc Empire was the first Total War game that people didn't like at launch.