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EDIT: Sorry, just saw the mod post.

When do we expect the new cartoon to go up?

Just going to port this over to the next page, so people don't continue that tangent again.

 Alpharius wrote:
OK.

At this point, let's all agree to disagree on certain things, and keep this thread about News and Rumors for this upcoming RPG.

Anyone is, of course, free to start a thread about what is and is not 'right and true' about a 40K RPG...somewhere else on Dakka Dakka.

Haha Alpharius swooping in like 'El Nombre' to save the day I had to go back 5 pages just to find the comic again!

It seems like the new system gives a decent chance of success for an action, my frustration with the Warhammer Fantasy RPG at the moment is that you have about a 40% chance of success for any given action with a starting character. This means you fail a lot which isn't terribly fun...

 Kroem wrote:
Haha Alpharius swooping in like 'El Nombre' to save the day I had to go back 5 pages just to find the comic again!

It seems like the new system gives a decent chance of success for an action, my frustration with the Warhammer Fantasy RPG at the moment is that you have about a 40% chance of success for any given action with a starting character. This means you fail a lot which isn't terribly fun...

Which edition are you playing? Technically you should get a bonus on most non combat actions as they will be considered easy?

I may have been wrong about a new page today, as only one page was drawn up on a Twitch stream, sorreh!

Here is a link to the comics, which should be added to the OP already: http://www.ulisses-us.com/comic/wg-example-p1/

As for the new system, after reading through the design diaries, I like the idea of it being simple dice pools with a decent chance of succeeding at 4+, though the notion that botching a roll doesn't immediately grind the session to a halt isn't half bad either.

The addition of a Wrath die that can influence the outcome regardless of what you roll seems like a fun mechanic on top of things.

"You aced your melee roll but sadly your Wrath die came up as a complication, so while you managed to disembowel the traitor the moment was ruined by you slipping in his freshly unleashed bowels. The people you were meant to inspire are not impressed."

I'm not sure I like the bucket of 6 siders on a 4+ mechanics personally but I'm reserving judgement until I see it in action myself. I like a bit more granularity in roleplaying games than that as opposed to mass battle miniatures games.

 warboss wrote:
I'm not sure I like the bucket of 6 siders on a 4+ mechanics personally but I'm reserving judgement until I see it in action myself. I like a bit more granularity in roleplaying games than that as opposed to mass battle miniatures games.

It's likely as a PC you'll be rolling 4-10 dice

"Bucket" is a bit of an overreaction.

 warboss wrote:
I'm not sure I like the bucket of 6 siders on a 4+ mechanics personally but I'm reserving judgement until I see it in action myself. I like a bit more granularity in roleplaying games than that as opposed to mass battle miniatures games.

Sounds like Shadowrun 4th ed....? Not too bad I guess, be good if you can influence rolls with mods or get re-rolls vai some sort of drama point mechanism. Lots of dice is not too bad at the table - when you are sitting on the sofa its less helpful.

The Wrath dice sounds interesting.

Mr Morden wrote:

 warboss wrote:
I'm not sure I like the bucket of 6 siders on a 4+ mechanics personally but I'm reserving judgement until I see it in action myself. I like a bit more granularity in roleplaying games than that as opposed to mass battle miniatures games.

Sounds like Shadowrun 4th ed....? Not too bad I guess, be good if you can influence rolls with mods or get re-rolls vai some sort of drama point mechanism. Lots of dice is not too bad at the table - when you are sitting on the sofa its less helpful.

The Wrath dice sounds interesting.

I'm a fan of shadowrun but a large part of that is nostalgia for me personally. The bucket o dice aspect of the game tended to be unpopular with various folks I've tried to get into the game over the decades between 2nd to 4th edition.

BrookM wrote:"Bucket" is a bit of an overreaction.

Maybe... but we don't know yet. The easiest way to add granularity in that kind of a system is typically to just add more dice. Shadowrun is firmly a bucket o dice rpg as pointed out above but simple best case scenario examples in that game also don't illustrate what actual moderately minmaxing players end up throwing either. I totally admit its conjecture at this point but it's a concern nontheless.

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Kroem wrote:
Haha Alpharius swooping in like 'El Nombre' to save the day I had to go back 5 pages just to find the comic again!

It seems like the new system gives a decent chance of success for an action, my frustration with the Warhammer Fantasy RPG at the moment is that you have about a 40% chance of success for any given action with a starting character. This means you fail a lot which isn't terribly fun...

Which edition are you playing? Technically you should get a bonus on most non combat actions as they will be considered easy?

I'm not the DM so I'm not really sure... it is only a minor gripe though, otherwise I'm having a great time piloting my Estalian Diestro!

The wrath die sounds like the jokers in the Space Kings system, I'm loving the sort of chaotic fun that it causes on the Pretend Friends podcast!

A few games use a similar system, the first few editions of the world of darkness games used a bucket O' dice method that created a dice pool using an attribute plus a skill. Traveler 2300, cyberpunk , it can be a solid dice method.

I don't think the comic art strikes me as '40k', but it's still kind of fun.

I'm hoping it gives you complete freedom to be what you want. I want to use this to make a Deathwatch and a Horus Heresy Astartes campaign.

 Insurgency Walker wrote:
A few games use a similar system, the first few editions of the world of darkness games used a bucket O' dice method that created a dice pool using an attribute plus a skill. Traveler 2300, cyberpunk , it can be a solid dice method.

I think the issue here is what people's threshold for a "bucket" is.

Those White Wolf games frequently capped at 10 dice between attribute and skill. Most of the WEG D6 Games you'll have fewer than 10 dice unless you are legendary.

When I think "bucket of dice" I'm thinking situations that come up in 40K, where my 30 Termagants are rolling 90 dice in the shooting phase.

From Facebook:

Wait I thought this RPG was set after Biel-Tan has been destroyed?

It wasn't destroyed, merely fractured.

But just like Cadia being blown up and ceasing to be, Cadians are still around, so I'm sure a few of those cone-headed elf dolls have survived as well.

This eldar is way better than the previous art, I like it a lot.
Even if I'm not particulary interested in this RPG (I am still buying and playing the "old" ones), it is going to be quite interesting to explore the "new" background. 40k is clearly lacking on this point so at least we have Wrath and Glory now.

 godardc wrote:
This eldar is way better than the previous art, I like it a lot.

+1
Totally agree...
... however the Eldar do seem to have switched the left and right shoe

Xenos art has been done by a different artist.

I do like that art a bit better, though it's not as contrasty as the previous stuff, it's a bit more appealing to the eye.

Is there any word on whether they will expect you to use models in the combat or whether they are gearing towards imagination only?

This could be a cool reason to get cool models that don't really fit into your army like Kroot or DE Warriors.

I'm sure like FFG's stuff it'll have a small box somewhere outlining how to use minis.

That's honestly the best way to handle any RPG. Some scenarios work great with Theatre of the Mind, but you should always be able to use minis for the encounters where positioning and cover are important.

 BrookM wrote:


TIER 6 SH*T RIGHT HERE!

Good ol' Obi-wan Sherlock Clouseau! That dude's a ninja.

From Facebook:

It's official! Wrath & Glory will be part of this year's Free RPG Day! And yes, this will be a Quickstart product.

Go ask your local game store to participate!

http://www.freerpgday.com

 BrookM wrote:
From Facebook:

It's official! Wrath & Glory will be part of this year's Free RPG Day! And yes, this will be a Quickstart product.
Go ask your local game store to participate![/size]

http://www.freerpgday.com

Woot, woot! Thanks for the fantastic news!

Good news indeed! Hopefully they'll have a free pdf download on the same day for those unable to make it.

Very smart move to get a quickstart out via Free RPG Day.

It'll be interesting to see what kind of pregenerated characters are included.

Probably something along the lines of a commissar, guardsman, Space Marine Scout and Skitarii ranger, as have been showcased in both the comic and the preview document. Mind, this is speculation on my end.

It would be really ace if the content ties into the campaign of the main book, as some of the previous FFG stuff did.