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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Some legions get all the nice models, and others are left with the dregs.

Yeah, they really need to go back and start filling in the gaps. Didn't they say every Legion was getting a praetor?

I hope FW starts redoing a lot of the older models.

Imagine a new Abbadon and Loken.

World Eaters probably need the most love, since they have models but they're horribly dated.
Word Bearers and NL have a mix of new and old that I wouldn't mind seeing updated as well.

And a lot of the loyalists could do with an upgrade.

Abaddon is great. Tbh, some of the newer models are a lot worse than most of the older stuff, the Space Wolves in particular, and I don’t see them starting with them...

Really like Maloghurst though. He looks excellent.

Burn everything and rebuild in plastic.

 GaroRobe wrote:
I hope FW starts redoing a lot of the older models.

Only if they redo them in plastic. There's still lots of gaps that need filling.

 GaroRobe wrote:
I hope FW starts redoing a lot of the older models.

Good lord, no! With the exception of the Space Wolves...

Kirioth has posited that, based on how crisp the detail is, Mallghurst may be a plastic model.

I’m inclined to agree. There’s just something about it which doesn’t suggest a resin release.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Kirioth has posited that, based on how crisp the detail is, Mallghurst may be a plastic model.

I’m inclined to agree. There’s just something about it which doesn’t suggest a resin release.

In what world we live in that plastic has crisper detail than resin?

It is just a problem of paintjob, FW normal paintjobs are horrible to show the fine detail of the models.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Kirioth has posited that, based on how crisp the detail is, Mallghurst may be a plastic model.

I’m inclined to agree. There’s just something about it which doesn’t suggest a resin release.

Doesn't really matter since they all paint prints for the Studio pieces.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Kirioth has posited that, based on how crisp the detail is, Mallghurst may be a plastic model.

I’m inclined to agree. There’s just something about it which doesn’t suggest a resin release.

I thought the same of the phyrr cats and yet they turned out to be resin.

I think it might be a result of GW doing more 3D design work and some of their 3D plastic design team working on resin models; or models being designed with plastic in mind and then being made in resin.

So, for quite a bit, every legion mostly had 2 special characters, with only one being released.
Could they be doing the releases for those?
He also isnt on a Diorama like the others. Like Ahriman and Fell HAnded.
So maybe he is plastic.
just an idea.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Kirioth has posited that, based on how crisp the detail is, Mallghurst may be a plastic model.

I’m inclined to agree. There’s just something about it which doesn’t suggest a resin release.

Posted this on B&C and I'll repeat here:

I doubt it. Take a look at the fine details like spikes, rivets, the gloves and backpack holes. They're well defined as per a resin cast. Where, with plastic, they tend to be angled slightly so that it work in GWs mould machines. To me, there's too many undercuts, fine detail and the like that makes this more likely be a resin cast

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Kirioth has posited that, based on how crisp the detail is, Mallghurst may be a plastic model.

I’m inclined to agree. There’s just something about it which doesn’t suggest a resin release.

I mean, both the Word Bearer Preators also looked very Plastic-esque and turned out to be resin, it's just a matter of a more GW-esque Paintjob.


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 Galas wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Kirioth has posited that, based on how crisp the detail is, Mallghurst may be a plastic model.

I’m inclined to agree. There’s just something about it which doesn’t suggest a resin release.

In what world we live in that plastic has crisper detail than resin?

Forgeworld.

Love it. So nice to finally see one of my favourite characters after all these years

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Kirioth has posited that, based on how crisp the detail is, Mallghurst may be a plastic model.

I’m inclined to agree. There’s just something about it which doesn’t suggest a resin release.

People speculated the same thing about Tarvitz and he ended up resin.

I very much doubt that there will be any plastic heresy releases as even the limited run Medicae and Praetor they sold out of GW stores were Resin.

Unless, of course, it's a Calth/Propsero style box set.

In which case they would be probably be announcing that rather than just Mallghurst.

 Galas wrote:
In what world we live in that plastic has crisper detail than resin?

Are you stuck in 2010? Because that was about last year resin could claim to have any advantages, ever since then, it was just all the way down. You don't even need to look at comical, 2 cm thick HH capes or warped "details" on resin models, all you need to do is to compare plastic HH units/characters with resin ones. Heaven and earth, and that's with 2016 plastics, not 2020 ones. Even the rivets are no longer a problem.

And yeah, can't see this being resin. Doesn't look like junk, way too nice and uniform details, and the most damningly, the Iron Halo between his hand and banner is virtually impossible to be made in resin, it will bend or snap in casting 99/100 times. The only way it can be resin it's 3D printed resin master, because FW casting process won't make what was shown on WC photo, ever

 Irbis wrote:

 Galas wrote:
In what world we live in that plastic has crisper detail than resin?

Are you stuck in 2010? Because that was about last year resin could claim to have any advantages, ever since then, it was just all the way down. You don't even need to look at comical, 2 cm thick HH capes or warped "details" on resin models, all you need to do is to compare plastic HH units/characters with resin ones. Heaven and earth, and that's with 2016 plastics, not 2020 ones. Even the rivets are no longer a problem.

And yeah, can't see this being resin. Doesn't look like junk, way too nice and uniform details, and the most damningly, the Iron Halo between his hand and banner is virtually impossible to be made in resin, it will bend or snap in casting 99/100 times. The only way it can be resin it's 3D printed resin master, because FW casting process won't make what was shown on WC photo, ever

Always nice to see a post that's going to age like fine... milk.

 Irbis wrote:

 Galas wrote:
In what world we live in that plastic has crisper detail than resin?

Are you stuck in 2010? Because that was about last year resin could claim to have any advantages, ever since then, it was just all the way down. You don't even need to look at comical, 2 cm thick HH capes or warped "details" on resin models, all you need to do is to compare plastic HH units/characters with resin ones. Heaven and earth, and that's with 2016 plastics, not 2020 ones. Even the rivets are no longer a problem.

And yeah, can't see this being resin. Doesn't look like junk, way too nice and uniform details, and the most damningly, the Iron Halo between his hand and banner is virtually impossible to be made in resin, it will bend or snap in casting 99/100 times. The only way it can be resin it's 3D printed resin master, because FW casting process won't make what was shown on WC photo, ever

I mean... take into account that this is not what you'll get, be it resin or not. This is , as you say, a 3d print of the model, so for example it doesn't really matter how hard an Iron Halo migt or might not be to make in resin. That will be after, with whatever you get, not here.

Also, it's been years and years since last I bought resin stuff from FW, but resin itself is not a problem for stuff like that. Take Artel W's minis, for example: the casts are clean as feth, and even the really, really small pieces get here unbroken and unbent.

 Albertorius wrote:

 Irbis wrote:

 Galas wrote:
In what world we live in that plastic has crisper detail than resin?

Are you stuck in 2010? Because that was about last year resin could claim to have any advantages, ever since then, it was just all the way down. You don't even need to look at comical, 2 cm thick HH capes or warped "details" on resin models, all you need to do is to compare plastic HH units/characters with resin ones. Heaven and earth, and that's with 2016 plastics, not 2020 ones. Even the rivets are no longer a problem.

And yeah, can't see this being resin. Doesn't look like junk, way too nice and uniform details, and the most damningly, the Iron Halo between his hand and banner is virtually impossible to be made in resin, it will bend or snap in casting 99/100 times. The only way it can be resin it's 3D printed resin master, because FW casting process won't make what was shown on WC photo, ever

I mean... take into account that this is not what you'll get, be it resin or not. This is , as you say, a 3d print of the model, so for example it doesn't really matter how hard an Iron Halo migt or might not be to make in resin. That will be after, with whatever you get, not here.

Also, it's been years and years since last I bought resin stuff from FW, but resin itself is not a problem for stuff like that. Take Artel W's minis, for example: the casts are clean as feth, and even the really, really small pieces get here unbroken and unbent.

But that's Artel W, not Forgeworld, which is universally known for absolutely gak Resin at insane prices.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 Irbis wrote:

 Galas wrote:
In what world we live in that plastic has crisper detail than resin?

Are you stuck in 2010? Because that was about last year resin could claim to have any advantages, ever since then, it was just all the way down. You don't even need to look at comical, 2 cm thick HH capes or warped "details" on resin models, all you need to do is to compare plastic HH units/characters with resin ones. Heaven and earth, and that's with 2016 plastics, not 2020 ones. Even the rivets are no longer a problem.

And yeah, can't see this being resin. Doesn't look like junk, way too nice and uniform details, and the most damningly, the Iron Halo between his hand and banner is virtually impossible to be made in resin, it will bend or snap in casting 99/100 times. The only way it can be resin it's 3D printed resin master, because FW casting process won't make what was shown on WC photo, ever

I mean... take into account that this is not what you'll get, be it resin or not. This is , as you say, a 3d print of the model, so for example it doesn't really matter how hard an Iron Halo migt or might not be to make in resin. That will be after, with whatever you get, not here.

Also, it's been years and years since last I bought resin stuff from FW, but resin itself is not a problem for stuff like that. Take Artel W's minis, for example: the casts are clean as feth, and even the really, really small pieces get here unbroken and unbent.

But that's Artel W, not Forgeworld, which is universally known for absolutely gak Resin at insane prices.

That's why I said that the end result for the client doesn't much matter, as this is a 3d printed master, yes.

 Irbis wrote:

 Galas wrote:
In what world we live in that plastic has crisper detail than resin?

Are you stuck in 2010? Because that was about last year resin could claim to have any advantages, ever since then, it was just all the way down. You don't even need to look at comical, 2 cm thick HH capes or warped "details" on resin models, all you need to do is to compare plastic HH units/characters with resin ones. Heaven and earth, and that's with 2016 plastics, not 2020 ones. Even the rivets are no longer a problem.

And yeah, can't see this being resin. Doesn't look like junk, way too nice and uniform details, and the most damningly, the Iron Halo between his hand and banner is virtually impossible to be made in resin, it will bend or snap in casting 99/100 times. The only way it can be resin it's 3D printed resin master, because FW casting process won't make what was shown on WC photo, ever

Why are you talking like the only resin in the world is GW produced one?

There’s usually some detail which gives away plastic, so compromise the sculpt has to make to work with the metal moulds. However, GW have been getting better and better at hiding that and cutting up the sculpt in more intricate ways to maximise what is possible. So, I just can’t tell. There’s nothing about this that says it’s definitely plastic or definitely resin to me.

 Galas wrote:

 Irbis wrote:

 Galas wrote:
In what world we live in that plastic has crisper detail than resin?

Are you stuck in 2010? Because that was about last year resin could claim to have any advantages, ever since then, it was just all the way down. You don't even need to look at comical, 2 cm thick HH capes or warped "details" on resin models, all you need to do is to compare plastic HH units/characters with resin ones. Heaven and earth, and that's with 2016 plastics, not 2020 ones. Even the rivets are no longer a problem.

And yeah, can't see this being resin. Doesn't look like junk, way too nice and uniform details, and the most damningly, the Iron Halo between his hand and banner is virtually impossible to be made in resin, it will bend or snap in casting 99/100 times. The only way it can be resin it's 3D printed resin master, because FW casting process won't make what was shown on WC photo, ever

Why are you talking like the only resin in the world is GW produced one?

Cause, we're comparing FW to GW, we absolutely should only be comparing GW resin and GW plastic. Absolutely nothing to gain out of discussing Artel W resin or something else, when talking about a model we both know GW made.

I really, really doubt Mal is plastic. There are a lot of clearly FW style design cues.

The head, for one, looks like a lot of FW, not GW heads.

The rock he's standing on is closer to FW rocks.
The skulls on the banner, the pipes on his armor, etc are all reminiscent of FW sculpting and design.

The only thing that's stopping me from believing he's 99% resin is I was sure Uriel Ventris was also going to be resin.

 Dysartes wrote:

 Irbis wrote:

 Galas wrote:
In what world we live in that plastic has crisper detail than resin?

Are you stuck in 2010? Because that was about last year resin could claim to have any advantages, ever since then, it was just all the way down. You don't even need to look at comical, 2 cm thick HH capes or warped "details" on resin models, all you need to do is to compare plastic HH units/characters with resin ones. Heaven and earth, and that's with 2016 plastics, not 2020 ones. Even the rivets are no longer a problem.

And yeah, can't see this being resin. Doesn't look like junk, way too nice and uniform details, and the most damningly, the Iron Halo between his hand and banner is virtually impossible to be made in resin, it will bend or snap in casting 99/100 times. The only way it can be resin it's 3D printed resin master, because FW casting process won't make what was shown on WC photo, ever

Always nice to see a post that's going to age like fine... milk.

It's clearly metal...and a conversion. I'd stake Irbis's life on it.

It'll be resin simply because I want it to be plastic.

Looks plastic.
/Edit - IDK why they would be making a plastic HH model, so I'm not saying it is plastic, but it does look like plastic.

Personally i found it hilarious that everyone is so used to Forgeworld minis being absolute crap, that everytime they see a good-looking one they automatically go "Nah that can't be Forgeworld it's gotta be plastic."

Never mind