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So, in the end, nobody embarassed GW publically by asking about Cursed City? How dissapointing

 Kanluwen wrote:
Ogryn are relatively new, Ratlings are still Finecast from three codices ago.

Has it really been this long already? Wow, how time flies...
I know there are probably some die hard fans out there who love Ratlings, but at this point I wouldn't mind the kit vanishing altogether.

A base 10 men kit for infantry and then some individual upgrade sprues for HWT, SWT, CCS and so one would make sense to me. But I doubt we will ever get that.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
So, in the end, nobody embarassed GW publically by asking about Cursed City? How dissapointing

They do deserve a bit of grief on that one.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Rumor is that there's 3 boxes and a few blisters to come. Command Squad might not be in the cards though, since you can make them out of the Infantry Squad box.

Do you have a source or link for this rumour? Genuinely curious! Been enjoying the new Krieg a lot and I'd love to hear about more releases in the same mould...

Seen rumours of Catachans maybe next year, which would be wild if the sculpts are as nice as the independent characters they've been trickling out previously.

Gimmie all of the Guard regiments dammit!

*Valkyrie swooshing noises*

 Geifer wrote:
They weren't so monochrome until they featured as the poster boys of 3rd ed, and the notable presence of red on Sword Brethren was added even later than that.

IIRC someone's showcase army did this just to differentiate without normal company markings etc. for veterans, and it stuck.

On Helbrecht, what an unimpressive interpretation of an unimpressive illustration... It looks like the illustrator didn't know how to create perspective and the sculptor didn't know how to interpret it, so the model's weight looks all wrong and like he might tip away from the ork. Decent detail, terrible composition. Actually, why was it changed to a random boy instead of a nob or whatever? And why is his lantern chain wrapped around his off-hand? Isn't his sword supposed to look like a 2-h weapon? And why are the servitors so bulky now? I'd call it a miss.

 spiralingcadaver wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
They weren't so monochrome until they featured as the poster boys of 3rd ed, and the notable presence of red on Sword Brethren was added even later than that.

IIRC someone's showcase army did this just to differentiate without normal company markings etc. for veterans, and it stuck.

On Helbrecht, what an unimpressive interpretation of an unimpressive illustration... It looks like the illustrator didn't know how to create perspective and the sculptor didn't know how to interpret it, so the model's weight looks all wrong and like he might tip away from the ork. Decent detail, terrible composition. Actually, why was it changed to a random boy instead of a nob or whatever? And why is his lantern chain wrapped around his off-hand? Isn't his sword supposed to look like a 2-h weapon? And why are the servitors so bulky now? I'd call it a miss.

Every dude in 40k is giant and swole, haven't you heard?

 Scrub wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Rumor is that there's 3 boxes and a few blisters to come. Command Squad might not be in the cards though, since you can make them out of the Infantry Squad box.

Do you have a source or link for this rumour? Genuinely curious! Been enjoying the new Krieg a lot and I'd love to hear about more releases in the same mould...

Not handy for posting, sadly! It was floating around back when the first DKoK plastic rumors hit last year...and I didn't save it.

Rumor is that it's Death Riders, Grenadiers/Engineers, Infantry, and Heavy Weapon Squad--with blisters for a Grenadier, Death Rider, and Engineer officer plus a Quartermaster.

Seen rumours of Catachans maybe next year, which would be wild if the sculpts are as nice as the independent characters they've been trickling out previously.

The Catachan rumor is lining up with the Big Rumor. Purportedly it's a Kill Team set, with Catachans and Lictors.

Death Riders also show up in the Orky Codex Artwork, so they seem a fairly safe bet.

 spiralingcadaver wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
They weren't so monochrome until they featured as the poster boys of 3rd ed, and the notable presence of red on Sword Brethren was added even later than that.

IIRC someone's showcase army did this just to differentiate without normal company markings etc. for veterans, and it stuck.

On Helbrecht, what an unimpressive interpretation of an unimpressive illustration... It looks like the illustrator didn't know how to create perspective and the sculptor didn't know how to interpret it, so the model's weight looks all wrong and like he might tip away from the ork. Decent detail, terrible composition. Actually, why was it changed to a random boy instead of a nob or whatever? And why is his lantern chain wrapped around his off-hand? Isn't his sword supposed to look like a 2-h weapon? And why are the servitors so bulky now? I'd call it a miss.

On the Servitors, models as far back as the 2nd ed ones were more muscled than they were commonly described in the background. The only skinny Servitor that deserved the corpse creature moniker from the background that GW proper made, to my knowledge anyway, is the loader servitor of the 3rd ed Exorcist.

Since GW has only gone further in the super buff dudes direction in the meantime, with very few exceptions like the Slaanesh cultists from AoS as a notable example, it's not surprising to get super buff Servitors with Helbrecht.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Ogryn are relatively new, Ratlings are still Finecast from three codices ago.

Not at all, Ratlings are still in metal.

Servitors are often made from failed Astartes aspirants and it's just good maintenance to keep their meat parts (because they are majority meat parts) in a physique that would allow them to be more than meat shields.

 Geifer wrote:

 spiralingcadaver wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
They weren't so monochrome until they featured as the poster boys of 3rd ed, and the notable presence of red on Sword Brethren was added even later than that.

IIRC someone's showcase army did this just to differentiate without normal company markings etc. for veterans, and it stuck.

On Helbrecht, what an unimpressive interpretation of an unimpressive illustration... It looks like the illustrator didn't know how to create perspective and the sculptor didn't know how to interpret it, so the model's weight looks all wrong and like he might tip away from the ork. Decent detail, terrible composition. Actually, why was it changed to a random boy instead of a nob or whatever? And why is his lantern chain wrapped around his off-hand? Isn't his sword supposed to look like a 2-h weapon? And why are the servitors so bulky now? I'd call it a miss.

On the Servitors, models as far back as the 2nd ed ones were more muscled than they were commonly described in the background. The only skinny Servitor that deserved the corpse creature moniker from the background that GW proper made, to my knowledge anyway, is the loader servitor of the 3rd ed Exorcist.

Since GW has only gone further in the super buff dudes direction in the meantime, with very few exceptions like the Slaanesh cultists from AoS as a notable example, it's not surprising to get super buff Servitors with Helbrecht.

Grimaldus's servitors are gonna look like they bench press the columns they carry in their free time aren't they?

Keel wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Ogryn are relatively new, Ratlings are still Finecast from three codices ago.

Not at all, Ratlings are still in metal.

Yep! Best material GW has ever used! Got those metal guys!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Death Riders also show up in the Orky Codex Artwork, so they seem a fairly safe bet.

Grenadiers too.

I mean if you replace about two thirds of the guys head and torso, why not also 'roid him up for the menial labour he will be doing?

 spiralingcadaver wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
They weren't so monochrome until they featured as the poster boys of 3rd ed, and the notable presence of red on Sword Brethren was added even later than that.

IIRC someone's showcase army did this just to differentiate without normal company markings etc. for veterans, and it stuck.

On Helbrecht, what an unimpressive interpretation of an unimpressive illustration... It looks like the illustrator didn't know how to create perspective and the sculptor didn't know how to interpret it, so the model's weight looks all wrong and like he might tip away from the ork. Decent detail, terrible composition. Actually, why was it changed to a random boy instead of a nob or whatever? And why is his lantern chain wrapped around his off-hand? Isn't his sword supposed to look like a 2-h weapon? And why are the servitors so bulky now? I'd call it a miss.

Are they servitors or chapter serfs?

Gee willikers, I sure am glad that Helbrecht survived crossing the EXTREMELY DANGEROUS Rubicon Primaris.

It would have been a terrible shame if even one dude didn't survive the EXTREMELY DANGEROUS procedure.

Such EXTREME DANGER sure does set thrilling narrative stakes.

Rihgu wrote:

 spiralingcadaver wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
They weren't so monochrome until they featured as the poster boys of 3rd ed, and the notable presence of red on Sword Brethren was added even later than that.

IIRC someone's showcase army did this just to differentiate without normal company markings etc. for veterans, and it stuck.

On Helbrecht, what an unimpressive interpretation of an unimpressive illustration... It looks like the illustrator didn't know how to create perspective and the sculptor didn't know how to interpret it, so the model's weight looks all wrong and like he might tip away from the ork. Decent detail, terrible composition. Actually, why was it changed to a random boy instead of a nob or whatever? And why is his lantern chain wrapped around his off-hand? Isn't his sword supposed to look like a 2-h weapon? And why are the servitors so bulky now? I'd call it a miss.

Are they servitors or chapter serfs?

Depends on how the failed, I'd imagine. The ones able to become chapter serfs are made such, those whose bodies have been mangled, or minds rendered unstable are prime servitor candidates.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Gee willikers, I sure am glad that Helbrecht survived crossing the EXTREMELY DANGEROUS Rubicon Primaris.

It would have been a terrible shame if even one dude didn't survive the EXTREMELY DANGEROUS procedure.

Such EXTREME DANGER sure does set thrilling narrative stakes.

Not to worry, i'm sure there's gonna be a Primaris Lieutenant that made it but was extremly maimed when GW is going to need a Character Redemptor.

Anything on the Squats get mentioned?

 Alpharius wrote:
Anything on the Squats get mentioned?

Nah. Too far out. They didn’t even show all the Black Templars and they’re the next 40k release.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Death Riders also show up in the Orky Codex Artwork, so they seem a fairly safe bet.

Grenadiers too.

I've been looking at that art ever since you mentioned this, and I'm torn between it showing something (not necessarily grenadiers) and the forearm plates just being fine lines of paint in the distance and not necessarily intended to be smooth.

I absolutely hope you are right though. Grenadiers are just as iconic as the death riders and engineers for me. If they do make them, I hope they make them slightly taller and broader in the shoulders also, just for lore points.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Gee willikers, I sure am glad that Helbrecht survived crossing the EXTREMELY DANGEROUS Rubicon Primaris.

It would have been a terrible shame if even one dude didn't survive the EXTREMELY DANGEROUS procedure.

Such EXTREME DANGER sure does set thrilling narrative stakes.

So which popular and historic character ought to bite the bullet?

I can handwave it as it being dangerous as something g they didn't know would work the first few times, but they have settled out the process now.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Gee willikers, I sure am glad that Helbrecht survived crossing the EXTREMELY DANGEROUS Rubicon Primaris.

It would have been a terrible shame if even one dude didn't survive the EXTREMELY DANGEROUS procedure.

Such EXTREME DANGER sure does set thrilling narrative stakes.

So which popular and historic character ought to bite the bullet?

I can handwave it as it being dangerous as something g they didn't know would work the first few times, but they have settled out the process now.

I'll offer my faction as the sacrificial lamb here. Abbadon should die attempting to cross the Rubicon Primaris.

Logan Grimnar, at that point you can make Ragnar the great wolf, who already is primaris.

We also get to delete the santa sleigh from the shelves.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Anything on the Squats get mentioned?

Nah. Too far out. They didn’t even show all the Black Templars and they’re the next 40k release.

That's good. My wallet needs more time to prepare for a Squats release.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Gee willikers, I sure am glad that Helbrecht survived crossing the EXTREMELY DANGEROUS Rubicon Primaris.

It would have been a terrible shame if even one dude didn't survive the EXTREMELY DANGEROUS procedure.

Such EXTREME DANGER sure does set thrilling narrative stakes.

So which popular and historic character ought to bite the bullet?

I can handwave it as it being dangerous as something g they didn't know would work the first few times, but they have settled out the process now.

Oh, please - can it be Sicarius?

 Stormonu wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Gee willikers, I sure am glad that Helbrecht survived crossing the EXTREMELY DANGEROUS Rubicon Primaris.

It would have been a terrible shame if even one dude didn't survive the EXTREMELY DANGEROUS procedure.

Such EXTREME DANGER sure does set thrilling narrative stakes.

So which popular and historic character ought to bite the bullet?

I can handwave it as it being dangerous as something g they didn't know would work the first few times, but they have settled out the process now.

Oh, please - can it be Sicarius?

I'd forgive them... a significant portion of their slights if they did that

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Stormonu wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Gee willikers, I sure am glad that Helbrecht survived crossing the EXTREMELY DANGEROUS Rubicon Primaris.

It would have been a terrible shame if even one dude didn't survive the EXTREMELY DANGEROUS procedure.

Such EXTREME DANGER sure does set thrilling narrative stakes.

So which popular and historic character ought to bite the bullet?

I can handwave it as it being dangerous as something g they didn't know would work the first few times, but they have settled out the process now.

Oh, please - can it be Sicarius?

I'd forgive them... a significant portion of their slights if they did that

We'd all simp for GW a little bit if they did this.

SamusDrake wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
So, in the end, nobody embarassed GW publically by asking about Cursed City? How dissapointing

They do deserve a bit of grief on that one.

Proof that our attention span isn't as rock-solid as we'd like to think, and that we are readily distracted by other, newer things.

All in all, not the worst reveal ever, but is it just me, or is it getting harder to get hype about these things knowing they're being pushed further and further out? Remember the Aeronautica space marine reveals? I wanted some of those kits for Titanicus terrain/bases and such, but nowhere to be seen.