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Anyone with a better eye and knowledge of the old range watch the battle report on W+? 3k a side, using a mix of old and new stuff.

Might be clues there for people who know. Which isn’t me.

 SirDonlad wrote:

 Nicorex wrote:

 SirDonlad wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:
I see they merged the three Thanatar entries into one - could that be the sign of a single kit with options to make all three primary classes?

Did they sell enough thanatars to justify a plastic kit?
Since the only difference is the weapon loadout and unit composition, it would make sense to agglomerate the profiles tbh.
Maybe it'll be the same thing as with legion land raiders where you can add a single achillies among a squadron?

From the leaked playtest PDF, the Thanatar lost one of its classes. So a plastic kit with 2 guns and an extra arm/fist sprue does not seem totally improbable.

What?!? Which one?!? Cynis or Calix?

The Cynis has been removed (at least in this playtest PDF). Like HBMC said, most likely since they did not make a model for it.

 Nicorex wrote:

Spoiler:

 SirDonlad wrote:

 Nicorex wrote:

 SirDonlad wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:
I see they merged the three Thanatar entries into one - could that be the sign of a single kit with options to make all three primary classes?

Did they sell enough thanatars to justify a plastic kit?
Since the only difference is the weapon loadout and unit composition, it would make sense to agglomerate the profiles tbh.
Maybe it'll be the same thing as with legion land raiders where you can add a single achillies among a squadron?

From the leaked playtest PDF, the Thanatar lost one of its classes. So a plastic kit with 2 guns and an extra arm/fist sprue does not seem totally improbable.

What?!? Which one?!? Cynis or Calix?

The Cynis has been removed (at least in this playtest PDF). Like HBMC said, most likely since they did not make a model for it.

i will never forgive FW this indignity.

Iron Warriors next then:

Very nice Sir Donlad.

And the article - https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/06/30/heresy-thursday-iron-warriors-upgrades-showcase-the-future-of-warhammer-fashion/

Oh they are nice.

I'm a little perturbed by the comment about them being released later this year. Considering that there are eighteen legions to get through, which poor sod is going to be waiting until the end of the year just for their upgrade kit?

I really thought GW might have managed to make sure this is all ready to go like uh... now? I'm already getting itchy feet waiting for the Mark IV to return, and drawing up plans for alternate summer projects if they're not in stock soon.

Eiríkr wrote:
I'm a little perturbed by the comment about them being released later this year.

I think they're going to release stuff in batches rather than drip-feed it out.

excited to see what they come up with for Iron Hands.

Eiríkr wrote:
I'm a little perturbed by the comment about them being released later this year. Considering that there are eighteen legions to get through, which poor sod is going to be waiting until the end of the year just for their upgrade kit?

Oh, easy answer. I am.

Can't wait to see the Word Bearers and Night Lords. It's a shame they're dragging this out though. There are so many legions and it's not like its a guarantee they'll reveal more upgrade sprues next week.

Does anyone have that old HH "leak" where they listed off the upgrade sprues? It was only a handful of legions and it would be interesting to see if the ones so far match up

Can't help but feel the GW approach of dropping a box set and then not having the extra stuff ready for months isn't a great way of running things. You can't really capitalise on the initial excitement of the big release if you have pretty much nothing to sell people after that. Doesn't seem a great way of gaining new players and keeping them

Is that it? Blah. That bare head seems a bit uninspired aswell. Generic bionic eye baldie.

Edit, the rest of the helmets look pretty sick

BigOscar wrote:
Can't help but feel the GW approach of dropping a box set and then not having the extra stuff ready for months isn't a great way of running things. You can't really capitalise on the initial excitement of the big release if you have pretty much nothing to sell people after that. Doesn't seem a great way of gaining new players and keeping them

At least heads and shoulders are very easy to leave off models to add later.

I think he is trying to strike a balance between releasing things for hh and destroying people's budgets. 40k just got the csm book, sigmar got a couple books and vanguard boxes, necromunda got the cargo truck and squats. Paints are going for preorder this week. I can see another Heresy wave after that, say the spartan and contemptor on their own with the rest of the heavy weapon sets and maybe the sicaran.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Is that it? Blah. That bare head seems a bit uninspired aswell. Generic bionic eye baldie.

Edit, the rest of the helmets look pretty sick

Save for the DA, the other two bare heads are also generic. Fortunately, the rest of the heads tend to be fairly cool.

Hoping that they'll soon showcase models actually wearing the helmets

 Nicorex wrote:
Very nice Sir Donlad.

Thanks!
You have some mighty conversion work in your gallery, sir.
Particularly the mk5 with additional panels - nice nod to other imperial vehicle design like the uparmoured sentinel.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

BigOscar wrote:
Can't help but feel the GW approach of dropping a box set and then not having the extra stuff ready for months isn't a great way of running things. You can't really capitalise on the initial excitement of the big release if you have pretty much nothing to sell people after that. Doesn't seem a great way of gaining new players and keeping them

At least heads and shoulders are very easy to leave off models to add later.

I think he is trying to strike a balance between releasing things for hh and destroying people's budgets. 40k just got the csm book, sigmar got a couple books and vanguard boxes, necromunda got the cargo truck and squats. Paints are going for preorder this week. I can see another Heresy wave after that, say the spartan and contemptor on their own with the rest of the heavy weapon sets and maybe the sicaran.

Expecting people to not put heads on their models for a few months in a new game you want them to get excited about playing seems like a poor strategy though tbh.

I get the argument for too much at once, but if you are essentially trying to kickstart interest in a new game(sort of new anyway) then you really need to grab people's attention and them let them use that initial excitement to carry on getting invested. The box set has grabbed people's attention, but there is nothing there to capitalise on that initial excitement. By the time enough stuff to have an interesting army is released, most of these starter boxes will be gathering dust in people's cupboards

I mean the next HH model wave is July, which starts on Saturday so...

BigOscar wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

BigOscar wrote:
Can't help but feel the GW approach of dropping a box set and then not having the extra stuff ready for months isn't a great way of running things. You can't really capitalise on the initial excitement of the big release if you have pretty much nothing to sell people after that. Doesn't seem a great way of gaining new players and keeping them

At least heads and shoulders are very easy to leave off models to add later.

I think he is trying to strike a balance between releasing things for hh and destroying people's budgets. 40k just got the csm book, sigmar got a couple books and vanguard boxes, necromunda got the cargo truck and squats. Paints are going for preorder this week. I can see another Heresy wave after that, say the spartan and contemptor on their own with the rest of the heavy weapon sets and maybe the sicaran.

Expecting people to not put heads on their models for a few months in a new game you want them to get excited about playing seems like a poor strategy though tbh.

I get the argument for too much at once, but if you are essentially trying to kickstart interest in a new game(sort of new anyway) then you really need to grab people's attention and them let them use that initial excitement to carry on getting invested. The box set has grabbed people's attention, but there is nothing there to capitalise on that initial excitement. By the time enough stuff to have an interesting army is released, most of these starter boxes will be gathering dust in people's cupboards

Exactly my problem, I am waiting for the multipart contemptor to get those decorated front-plates so can't build that yet and I also have to wait for the other two heavy weapon sets to build all my tacticals

Seeing people posting their several hundred dollar hauls for HH v2. I'd say GW successfully captured attention without needing everything released all at once.

Eiríkr wrote:
I'm a little perturbed

Well you're in luck because guess who the Primarch is for the Iron Warriors?

Eiríkr wrote:
I'm a little perturbed by the comment about them being released later this year. Considering that there are eighteen legions to get through, which poor sod is going to be waiting until the end of the year just for their upgrade kit?

I really thought GW might have managed to make sure this is all ready to go like uh... now? I'm already getting itchy feet waiting for the Mark IV to return, and drawing up plans for alternate summer projects if they're not in stock soon.

Four legion shoulder pads per month. So... more than four months of waiting time until everybody has received their goods. It´s pretty bad to be honest.

 Strg Alt wrote:

Eiríkr wrote:
I'm a little perturbed by the comment about them being released later this year. Considering that there are eighteen legions to get through, which poor sod is going to be waiting until the end of the year just for their upgrade kit?

I really thought GW might have managed to make sure this is all ready to go like uh... now? I'm already getting itchy feet waiting for the Mark IV to return, and drawing up plans for alternate summer projects if they're not in stock soon.

Four legion shoulder pads per month. So... more than four months of waiting time until everybody has received their goods. It´s pretty bad to be honest.

Considering how slow 30k stuff released in the past, this is speed-of-light.

These also aren't necessary for anyone to start playing. I personally prefer transfers, because they're easier to apply than painting molded shoulder pads.

Immaculate! These are the first upgrade heads for the new MKVI kit which actually look like they honour the original design language of the corvus armour! Someone gets it. These are making me legion jealous, what a bunch of great looking helms.

Can't wait to see these on the actual models!

Wait are not the helmets just the current ones repackaged for 10 man squads? They are still resin. Just buy the current unrebox ones.

 BrotherGecko wrote:
Wait are not the helmets just the current ones repackaged for 10 man squads? They are still resin. Just buy the current unrebox ones.

This was my thought as well. I don't think any of this stuff is new, as far as I can tell. FW is currently selling lots of these kinds of upgrade kits.

 BrotherGecko wrote:
Wait are not the helmets just the current ones repackaged for 10 man squads? They are still resin. Just buy the current unrebox ones.

Not the same, but one of the originals is similar to two of the new ones:




The new ones are more similar to the legion metal head, and all three are more clearly modified Mk VIs.

Which is funny, because in that regard they are the best so far, and IWs kinda hate the mark

 lord_blackfang wrote:

Eiríkr wrote:
I'm a little perturbed by the comment about them being released later this year. Considering that there are eighteen legions to get through, which poor sod is going to be waiting until the end of the year just for their upgrade kit?

Oh, easy answer. I am.

Same. I may convert/kitbash one squad with some leftover MkIII, though, to get a shattered legion look.

 Albertorius wrote:
Which is funny, because in that regard they are the best so far, and IWs kinda hate the mark

Yeah... the helmets are nice but ngl MK6 IW shoulderpad feels wrong. IW shoulder without trim just looks off.