Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023

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**Perfect Organism**

I selected UK excluding NI and GF is still showing 20% VAT on my pledge.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Odd, it certainly took a bit of fiddling to change mine

i wonder if it's something thats only just been done so if gamefound is looking at a pledge from before the change was made it will keep adding it

i cleared my selection, then repicked my deal which let me reselect my address country, then recompleted the pledge and the VAT element was gone

**pgmason**

I just did the same as previously it was showing £60 VAT. Manage your pledge, delete the items from it, add them back and re-submit it, and it removes the VAT component. If you do it that way you keep the same backer number, so your rewards shouldn't reset or anything. Don't cancel your pledge and then pledge again as that would wipe out early bird bonuses etc.

**Ian Sturrock**

Well, I'm back in, thanks to their sorting out the VAT issue. Five boxes, one of each for the moment. The free cavalry sprue means I can easily make the most common unit size, 10, that I need cavalry for (Ritter Houses in F28: War Always Changes). Now to figure out if I want to give them swords and grenades, or paired pistols.

**lord_blackfang**

I realy hope they can drop the EU VAT too.

**Perfect Organism**

Pledging seems to have slowed to a 'trickle'. At this rate, we'll be lucky to get to female infantry. Even with the usual 'surge' at the end, probably only getting to artillery, not vehicle or other stuff. Hopefully there will be a separate campaign for the vehicles, which I think might appeal to a wider audience, and the remaining Damned sets (e.g. heavy infantry) will make it into plastic as standard releases alongside regular Death Fields kits.

**lord_blackfang**

Time to drop price below retail maybe

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

the problem with a good advertising campaign, too many folk around at the start so far fewer (who will back before the last minute) to be recruited in the middle

and while i'd love cheaper a significant price drop could well mean lots of reduced pledges (folk could get what they wanted cheaper), and will the extra backers who come in make up for it

from consultations on facebook it seems like they're more likely to go for making (some? all?) of the bonus sprues swapable, and replacing bases with minis, (and cannon fodder with something else) would both seem to be popular

a tricky decision to make, but that's why i don't run a business

**Garrac**

I don't want to alarm anyone, but the funding has gone from 167,588 to 167,244.

Also, the webpage has kept failing since friday, which is worrying

**Smokestack**

Garrac wrote:
I don't want to alarm anyone, but the funding has gone from 167,588 to 167,244.

Also, the webpage has kept failing since friday, which is worrying

I havent been able to really get on since friday. Occasionally I can go to the "comments" section on my phone but none of the other tabs... and havent been able to even get to the comments section from my laptop (microsoft edge browser).

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

the funding drop may well be UK backers adjusting their addresses so they no longer pay VAT, most of it should hopefully come back once the hounds unlock (mine certainly will)

Gamefound seems to be ok today for me, when late Friday and all day Saturday was a real problem (it was an issue with this campaign rather than the website generally and WGA had been told about it so hopefully the gamefound support techs have identified and fixed the issue)

**lord_blackfang**

A $300 drop is also literally just one person leaving, it happens all the time.

**Garrac**

Um, seems like you're right, the tretch is already being recovered. Good!

**alphaecho**

Garrac wrote:
Um, seems like you're right, the tretch is already being recovered. Good!

That might be me. I've done better than expected on offloading via eBay.

I'm now in for 15 boxes and double freebies.

**Smokestack**

Wargames Atlantic posted this on Facebook:

Update on The Damned Campaign!
We’ve unlocked 5 hard plastic sets, are a couple thousand away from #6 (and only about $30k away from unlocking the Female Damned) so we are pretty excited for how big this has gotten! Thank you!
We want to fund several more sets so we’ve asked you how we can make this an even bigger win
Tomorrow we will be making some improvements to the campaign including:
1. changing up the stretch goals so you can pick and choose the sprues you want as a reward.
2. changing and adding stretch goals so you can get more free sprues
3. Solution for the EU VAT
Also keep in mind that the campaign already features:
- Free Shipping Worldwide over $50
- Prices are VAT inclusive in UK
- significant discounts on the MSRP of these sets that will be $39.95/£30 on release

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

That all sounds good,

just got to spread the news when it becomes official

**Garrac**

Welp, the webpage is failing again. Again, if Wargames Atlantic wants to extend the ending limit I will not have any problems at all, but Gamefound itself needs to solve this.

**DaveC**

Garrac wrote:
Welp, the webpage is failing again. Again. if Wargames Atlantic wants to extend the ending limit I will not have any problems at all, but Gamefound itself needs to solve this.

It's not great but weekends tend to be quiet anyway so better now than later. If Gamefound works like KS the creator sets the funding timeline and once started it can't be reset without pulling the entire campaign and restarting from zero it's very likely there is no way to extend beyond the set deadline. I doubt it will have an adverse effect anyway first and last 48 hours are the main funding times.

Good to hear about the changes especially the pick your own sprues - that's going to be a packing headache for them but they obviously see it as being worth it. Dropping the bases for something else works for me too.

**lord_blackfang**

Is Gamefound Kickstarter from Wish?

**Piousservant**

Perfect Organism wrote:
Wargames Atlantic wrote:
Perfect Organism wrote:
Yeah, carapace-armour damned would probably get me to double my pledge. Obvious way to squeeze them in would be to make the female infantry the 'heavy' version.

What should Damned carapace/power armor look like for those of you who have mentioned this?

Generally they should look like the base infantry with added armour. Knee and elbow pads. Consistent (i.e. present on every limb, not only on half of them) greaves (shin-guards) and spaulders (shoulder guards). Breastplate extended to protect abdomen and pelvis with either a single row of faulds (segmented plates running down the centre of the body, similar to classic trench armour, as seen on DKoK carapace) or tassets (two plates or rows of plates hanging below the belt, as seen on many space marines). Possibly gorgets or bevors (neck guards). Helmets with some degree of neck and face protection, including ones with grotesque (demonic face, plague doctor, zanni or pantalone style) masks (or half-masks).

Yes, very much this!

distinct helmet options; blood pact-esque ideally but the deep sea diver (bishock!) idea is cool too. Key o e would be slightly more advanced looking weapons than the regular Damned, suitable for use as Auxila / Kasrkin.

**TraitorgoonNo.502**

I really like the gasmask heads and have already pledged for 10 boxes, but if there were masked helmet options, I would be in for at least another 5 minimum. (I started making a blood pact force with greenstuff masked cadians years ago but stopped at around 25 guys.)

Though I would prefer full heads at the very least maybe they could do separate masks similar to the way the old Warhammer dwarf warrior kit worked with the separate spectacle helmet parts, except more like a simplified Japanese menpo in this case.
I wanted to add a picture of an airsoft mask (a streamlined half mask with leering mouth, visible teeth and sharp canines) but couldn't as I'm on an Xbox.

**Wargames Atlantic**

TraitorgoonNo.502 wrote:
I really like the gasmask heads and have already pledged for 10 boxes, but if there were masked helmet options, I would be in for at least another 5 minimum. (I started making a blood pact force with greenstuff masked cadians years ago but stopped at around 25 guys.)

Though I would prefer full heads at the very least maybe they could do separate masks similar to the way the old Warhammer dwarf warrior kit worked with the separate spectacle helmet parts, except more like a simplified Japanese menpo in this case.
I wanted to add a picture of an airsoft mask (a streamlined half mask with leering mouth, visible teeth and sharp canines) but couldn't as I'm on an Xbox.

I'll get this passed to the design team.

We really appreciate everyone who has backed thus far. We've achieved 5 full new kits, and are working towards more, as you know.

UK vat issues should be resolved. EU VAT issues are being actively looked at.

Charlie is busy working on some changes to make things even better for our backers, so now is the time to join up and get in on the action and the freebies!

We want our backers happy, and of course if we can get more of you to back (even for a few boxes) we can unlock more and more cool stuff.

**Smokestack**

Hmm. Down to $165,287... this is backsliding. I hope today's update rights the ship. I really want the female damned at the very least. Am contemplating upping to 15 boxes, But Not sure I need to.

**Wargames Atlantic**

A lot of people wanted the old style 3mm bevel edge bases so we've made them an option for you. New update on the campaign:

https://gamefound.com/projects/mwg--wargames-atlantic/the-damned/updates/14

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

You asked and we've added an option for 25mm bases! Now you can choose 3mm x 25mm bevel edge as well!
We've heard from many of you that you like the old style 3mm tall round, bevel-edged bases so we've gone ahead and added them in! We've gone one better with a light texture on the top so that you can skip the PVA and sand and all that and get straight to the painting.

There will be 12 unique designs on the tops ready for base coat and dry-brushing. And of course they're all hard plastic!

We've been listening to your feedback about the campaign and we're working on a big update to stretch goals and rewards for you that we'll be announcing later today including:

1. changing up the stretch goals so you can pick and choose the sprues you want as a reward.
2. changing and adding stretch goals so you can get more free sprues
3. Solution for the EU VAT

Also keep in mind that the campaign already features:

- Free Shipping Worldwide over $50
- Prices are VAT inclusive in UK
- significant discounts on the MSRP of these sets that will be $39.95/£30 on release

Thanks again for backing! We're thrilled to have unlocked 5 hard plastic sets so far! Now let's get the rest of them unlocked so we can deliver a proper army to you!

**KipCujo**

Good update - if we can exchange the base sprues and Cannon Fodder sprues for Damned sprues, I would consider re-examining my math on this campaign.

I'd encourage WGA to consider tossing in enough textured bases with a pledge to build your whole army on them as a proper pre-order bonus separate from stretch goal freebies, otherwise they feel like a non-factor to me.

**Wargames Atlantic**

KipCujo wrote:
Good update - if we can exchange the base sprues and Cannon Fodder sprues for Damned sprues, I would consider re-examining my math on this campaign.

Yes you'll be able to do that. The update is launching in the next hour or two with all the new stretch goals and the free sprues with the options to pick whatever sprue you like. We're adding in the existing Death Fields sprues as well.

**Perfect Organism**

This is, dare I say, an absolutely based move from WA.

**Wargames Atlantic**

You said you wanted more stuff. You said you wanted to pick your sprues. You said you wanted a LOT more FREE plastic. You said get rid of UK and EU VAT. You said you want sets to unlock at lower levels. Well...here you go!

https://gamefound.com/projects/mwg--wargames-atlantic/the-damned/updates/15

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Well they've done their bit, now we need to do ours

(if you can't see the sprue selector on your pledge click the red cross in a circle on the right to remove your old selection, and add it again, you'll then see the sprue selector below, and will be able to split it, click the icon, and individually specify each sprue)