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So pretty big news:

Gawker Media has officially filed for bankruptcy a Chapter 11 to be more clear. This may not come to a surprise for most people who have been paying attention. Gawker Media came under flak after posting a sex tape of Hulk Hogan. This trial is very interesting based on who was backing Hulk Hogan, and who his lawyers were. This is meant to be a bit of an introduction to the topic for people who don't really know about it. For those who don't know Gawker Media was a very large company in news and media:

"Gawker Media is an online media company and blog network, founded and owned by Nick Denton and based in New York City. Incorporated in the Cayman Islands,[2] as of 2012, it is the parent company for seven different weblogs and many subsites under them: Gawker.com, Deadspin, Lifehacker, Gizmodo, Kotaku, Jalopnik, and Jezebel. All Gawker articles are licensed on a Creative Commons attribution-noncommercial license.'"(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gawker_Media)

But just recently it filed a chapter 11 bankruptcy. This is means they will be selling assets. IE Kotaku, Deadspin, etc.

From the case this is what the court decided:
"Gawker Media, which was recently ordered to pay about $140 million to Hulk Hogan, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection on Friday and put its assets up for sale, conceding its difficult future following a contentious invasion-of-privacy lawsuit brought by the former wrestler."

Gawker media is incredibly infamous for both invasion of privacy and also in terms of morally bankrupt authors and writers as quoted by some other peoples. (Opinion of me not the general media)

Articles about bankruptcy:
Sample Article from CNN:

Spoiler:
Gawker Media has filed for bankruptcy, and the bidding for its assets begins now.
On Friday, the embattled media company said it had agreed to sell all seven of its brands and other assets to the tech publisher Ziff Davis.
The Ziff Davis bid -- worth $90 million to $100 million, according to sources -- sets the floor for the bankruptcy auction process.
"The bidding begins now -- so we will find out how much others will bid," a source with direct knowledge of the process said.
The Chapter 11 bankruptcy filing in Manhattan was motivated by the company's agonizing and all-consuming legal fight with Hulk Hogan -- a court battle that was secretly funded by Silicon Valley billionaire Peter Thiel.
A spokesman for Thiel declined to comment on Friday.
Gawker Media founder and CEO Nick Denton said in a tweet, "Even with his billions, Thiel will not silence our writers. Our sites will thrive --under new ownership -- and we'll win in court."
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Nick Denton @nicknotned
Even with his billions, Thiel will not silence our writers. Our sites will thrive — under new ownership — and we'll win in court.
1:17 PM - 10 Jun 2016
198 198 Retweets 266 266 likes
Hulk Hogan, whose real name is Terry Bollea, also took to Twitter to respond to the news. It was the former professional wrestler's protracted legal battle against Gawker that motivated Friday's decision.
"What a beautiful day, and the good doesn't prevent the better! In the present I AM always grateful, only good happens to me," he tweeted to his more than 1.5 million followers.
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Hulk Hogan ✔ @HulkHogan
What a beautiful day,and the good doesn't prevent the better! In the present I AM always grateful,only good happens to me. HH
1:54 PM - 10 Jun 2016
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The asset purchase agreement to Ziff Davis, the owner of PC Magazine, marks the start of the bankruptcy auction process. Bidding is expected to continue next week.
Denton said he was "encouraged" by the agreement with Ziff Davis, which he called "one of the most rigorously managed and profitable companies in digital media."
Ziff Davis signaled that it is interested in Gawker Media titles like Jezebel and Gizmodo, but the company's statement noticeably lacked any mention of the flagship Gawker.com, where the offending Hogan story was published in 2012.
The sale agreement to Ziff Davis will need to be approved by the bankruptcy court, which will conduct an auction to see if there is a higher offer available. Ziff Davis will be what is known as a "stalking horse bidder," whose offer for the company can be topped by other bidders.
Proceeds of the sale will go to pay off creditors, including Hogan. But that doesn't mean he will be able to collect all the money the jury awarded him. Under bankruptcy, people owed money generally receive only a fraction of what they were owed by the bankrupt company.
In March, a Florida jury awarded Hogan a staggering $140.1 million judgment in his invasion of privacy trial against the company over its 2012 publication of excerpts from his sex tape.
David Houston, Hogan's longtime personal attorney, said in a statement that his client has "every intention" to pursue that judgment, "whether it be in the bankruptcy court or any other court."
Gawker is still pushing ahead with its appeal of the judgment and has maintained confidence that it will ultimately be vindicated, but the company has been openly entertaining a sale.
Still, the news brought a sense of shock inside Gawker's Manhattan headquarters on Friday. Staffers learned of the bankruptcy filing at an all-hands meeting around noon, shortly before the news went public.
"People were surprised and saddened I would say," one Gawker Media staffer told CNNMoney. "Our independence is very central to what we do and also a big reason why a lot of us work here."
John Cook, executive editor of Gawker Media, told CNNMoney the staff was holding steady. "The decade-long legal assault from a vindictive billionaire has had the effect of making our staff pretty resilient at hearing difficult news," he said. "We're keeping our heads down and blogging."
Denton and Gawker Media President Heather Dietrick tried to reassure employees, telling them that nothing would change in the day-to-day operations until the sale is complete and that the sites would continue to function normally.
They said they were committed to finding a buyer that cares about what Gawker does.
Reaction outside the Gawker newsroom was mixed. Adversaries of the company, long known for its ruthless and snarky brand of journalism, cheered the news.
"Peter Thiel is a great American hero," tweeted conservative pundit Erick Erickson.
But Gawker had plenty of defenders, both within the journalism community and the world of politics.
"Freedom of the press is a cornerstone of our nation," tweeted New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman. "Like them or not, sad to see NYC media giant @Gawker forced to the brink."
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Freedom of the press is a cornerstone of our nation. Like them or not, sad to see NYC media giant @Gawker forced to the brink.
1:26 PM - 10 Jun 2016
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In truth, the ripples of Hogan's lawsuit were felt at the company before the trial even began. Earlier this year, Gawker sold a minority stake to the investment company Columbus Nova Technology Partners to gird itself against the lawsuit.
That was a first for the once-fiercely-independent media company, and a signal that the legal battle had forced Denton's hand.
Thiel, a co-founder of PayPal, confirmed last month that he has funded Hogan's lawsuit against Gawker along with others as a measure of "deterrence."
For years, Gawker's sites have pilloried Thiel, ridiculing his business failures and stridently conservative views. In 2007 one of its sites published a story titled "Peter Thiel is totally gay, people."
"Gawker, the defendant, built its business on humiliating people for sport," Thiel said in a statement last month. "They routinely relied on an assumption that victims would be too intimidated or disgusted to even attempt redress for clear wrongs. Freedom of the press does not mean freedom to publish sex tapes without consent. I don't think anybody but Gawker would argue otherwise."



http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/10/gawker-declared-bankruptcy-to-stop-hulk-hogan-from-taking-it-over.html
http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/10/media/gawker-media-bankruptcy/index.html
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2016/06/10/gawker-media-files-bankruptcy/85699728/
https://www.engadget.com/2016/06/10/gawker-media-bankruptcy-filing/

" In that document, owner Nick Denton estimates the company's assets at $50 million to $100 million, and liabilities at $100 million to $500 million. "

If I were a company owner here are the things to look at : Liabilities at $100 to $500 million. Assets $50 Million to $100 Million. You would be working at deficit and be in debt of around $400 Million to $50 Million Dollars.

According to the articles though:

"That said, it seems unlikely Gawker will be sold off until the lawsuit is resolved in one way or another -- it'll likely be a tough sell while it's still in the middle of this legal battle."

As much as this is a silencing of the press, (which it isn't, the court found them violating privacy of a person albeit of that of a celebrity). In a suite such as this Denton and Gawker believe they can win the case in another court, unfortunately Gawker has too much evidence stacked against it. And this will set a precedent for many other companies and media outlets who try to file themselves under fair use, or other protections, when they are clearly in the wrong.

If you wish to read the full court trial of the Hulk Hogan Case you can find it here : https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2166397/aj-daulerio-deposition5.txt

Now I understand not many of you will read this.

Heres a bit of a quote between the Prosecutor and Denton:

"Q. What sort of celebrity sex tapes
would not be newsworthy?
A. I couldn't say specifically.
Q. Well, can you imagine a situation
where a celebrity sex tape would not be
newsworthy?
calls for
MR. BERLIN: Objection,
speculation, but you can answer.
A. If they were a child.
Q. Under what age?
A. Four.
Q. No four-year-old sex tapes, okay."

Though often I would like to take a neutral stance on this after reading that particular line...... One would assume he was joking..... At a court case..... While being recorded..... In a dispute. Its one thing to make a joke, but it is completely out of bad taste, and in a state court room, while under oath. This is akin to telling a rape joke essentially. This video though is probably the proper explanation and often leads people to think: What were you thinking? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJop4xQuGHU

Gawker has long been in the eyes of ardour and not many people like or enjoy them. They are seen by the community of many to be factually wrong on some cases, or to take a sexist view point and possibly hurt people (Such as the Hulk Hogan Case). These cases are extremely interesting and worth noting as lawsuits are precedent and are actually quite common as they lead to many other types of things. But the question is... Will gawker be gone for good?

No, it will probably sell its assets and try to remain afloat.

Its why they are trying to cast a retrial so they can deliberately decrease the charges that were made upon them. They will reorganize the company and probably sell a lot of its assets to different companies, or join a bigger company. (http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2016/06/10/gawker-media-files-bankruptcy/85699728/)

It has been rumored that some companies are pining to get them under their belt or in their company. (https://www.engadget.com/2016/06/10/gawker-media-bankruptcy-filing/)

Though will the company file for a chapter 7 bankruptcy?

"Chapter 7 bankruptcy is a liquidation proceeding in which the debtor's non-exempt assets, if any, are sold by the Chapter 7 trustee and the proceeds distributed to creditors according to the priorities established in the Code." (http://www.moranlaw.net/chapter7.htm)
Probably not, but it is well within the realm of possiblity. There was another company that was in a similar situation but they were not sued, but instead they failed to create products. They collected a tremendous amount of debt and failed because of it and had no choice but to liquidate. "THQ declared Chapter 11 bankruptcy in December 2012 and began liquidating its assets the following month, with several properties either being acquired by third parties or auctioned off to other developers. In addition, most of the remaining staff were laid off.[4]" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/THQ)

But anyway I think you have had enough of that, I hope this stirs people to think. Doing the right thing was to not post sex tapes of celebrities under any circumstances, or invade peoples privacy to be 'newsworthy'.

Any opinions on this at all? Please keep it Civil!

This is a very interesting subject.

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They made a name on stuff like that. One day it was bound to bite them.

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"Hulk Hogan Sex Tape"......Four words 12 year old Feeder never thought he would hear.

To be brought down by the sex tape nobody wanted to see. Seems a bit anticlimactic, doesn't it? (Gawker's downfall, not the sex tape. Presumably the tape features a climax. )

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 feeder wrote:
"Hulk Hogan Sex Tape"......Four words 12 year old Feeder never thought he would hear.

To be brought down by the sex tape nobody wanted to see. Seems a bit anticlimactic, doesn't it? (Gawker's downfall, not the sex tape. Presumably the tape features a climax. )


Lol..well the question is, do you Really want to know that?

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Good news. I hope Hogan get's every fething cent out of this.

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No sympathy whatsoever for Gawker.

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Maybe somebody will buy Kotaku and make it in to something good. Or put it down, I'm not picky.
   
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I think it was already reported that IGN bought gawker.

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 Gordon Shumway wrote:
I think it was already reported that IGN bought gawker.


What?

https://www.destructoid.com/ign-s-parent-company-buys-kotaku-publisher-367341.phtml

This follows Gawker filing for bankruptcy today

Ziff Davis, an internet media conglomerate and owner of IGN, has bought Gawker Media Group. Details of the sale haven't been disclosed, but reports from earlier today state that Ziff Davis had a firm bid to buy Gawker and all of its assets for less than $100 million. All seven of Gawker's established media brands, including gaming site Kotaku, were included in the sale.

This comes directly on the heels of Gawker filing for bankruptcy today. The petition filed in New York district court estimates that Gawker has between $50 million and $100 million in assets, and between $100 million and $500 million of debt. The highly publicized loss of a jury trial to plaintiff Hulk Hogan stemming from publication of a personal sex tape is the overwhelming reason for Gawker's debt. If the bankruptcy is approved, it'll help partially shield Gawker from this judgment.

It does, however, seem odd that Ziff would be willing to buy a company that's still very much embroiled in a messy tangle of litigation. Gawker intends to appeal the Hogan verdict, likely as high into the justice system as it takes. This is all speculation, but that may be the reason Ziff was able to buy for what looks to have been a low-ball price. Or, it may speak volumes to the desperation of Gawker's situation.

As the sale has just happened, we don't yet know how it will impact the operation of any of the Gawker brands or how it will affect any of the writers at those sites. Kotaku just shared a post stating that it'll move forward without any changes and that it's "business as usual." As a scrappy independently-owned website, we can certainly sympathize with Gawker and appreciate its steadfast unwillingness to sell until it literally had no other choice. We wish the best for everyone at Gawker and hope that this tumultuous time is as un-tumultuous for them as possible.


From the article


Its not bought yet.

IT might be. But we don't know.

They seem to have scooped kotaku from out underneath of gawker's ruin. For apparently a bloody steal.

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I am glad many share my sentiments about the company known as gawker

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This is Hulk Hogan to Gwaker right now:




Well Peter Theil is at least, Hulk Hogan was little more than an (extremely well paid) tool.

How the hell is $140 million deemed to be acceptable damages?

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How the hell is $140 million deemed to be acceptable damages?

Damage to professional reputation (which would have a direct affect on potential earning power), combined with damage to his private life and relationships (as the sex tape was with his best friends wife, IIRC)... While you could make an argument for the latter just being Karma, ultimately, it's a bit of a big deal.

I suspect the amount was also amped up somewhat to send a fairly direct message to other companies in the same business...

 
   
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Publishers shouldn't be dishing out sex tapes just because people want to look at them. It is only justified in the public interest if for example it's a politician who runs on a strong family values platform and actually is cavorting behind the scenes with a pair of perky soubrettes or something.

That said 140 million is far too much. I would have said $1.4 was nearer the mark.

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Oh no, not -

Wait, Gawker?

Let's get the torches lads!

Someone should buy it just to burn it down.

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There's quite a bit more backstory and potential future affects here :

http://popbitch.com/home/2016/06/02/the-disrapture/

Spoiler:

Tech has been toying with media for many years now, but Peter Thiel's recent multi-million dollar attack on Gawker is the clearest sign yet that Silicon Valley might be ready to unleash a cataclysmic assault on the fourth estate. Is Thiel the final horseman? And, if so, who rode in before him?

Everyone always thought it would be Mark Zuckerberg who’d end up crushing the press beneath his heel, but if he wants the satisfaction of hearing it crunch he’s going to want to hurry up.

For while we’ve all been keeping our eyes on Zuckerberg, a number of other Silicon Valley billionaires have ridden in his shadow, wreaking apocalyptic havoc with the media landscape behind him, sowing the seeds that could well lead to its ultimate destruction.

What’s more, they have gone about doing so in exactly the way that the prophecies foretold.

Their names? War, Famine, Pestilence and Death.

Or, as they’re better known: Peter Thiel, Arianna Huffington, Jeff Bezos and Pierre Omidyar.

Each has done something different in their attempt to ‘disrupt’ journalism – and their powers combined may well turn the industry to dust before Zuckerberg has a chance even to lift his foot.

War


What’s His Name? Peter Thiel


Who Is He? Best known for co-founding PayPal, Thiel was also the first investor in Facebook (and still sits on their board).


What’s His Deal? A classic tech-libertarian, Peter Thiel is the type to get a twitch in his trousers any time Ayn Rand gets mentioned. Such is his devotion to the idea of a free, utopian state where techtrepreneurs can work freely without the tentacles of government getting all up in their business, Thiel was the most high-profile investor in the Seasteading Institute – a organisation set up to investigate the feasibility of building floating cities in the centre of the sea. Islands on stilts, built in international waters where their citizens were free from pesky federal regulation. The type of thing that would make the Church Of Scientology blink and rub its eyes in disbelief.

How Is He Involved In All This? Thiel has just unveiled himself as an unexpected heavyweight in the game. A story of revenge nearly ten years in the making, last week he was revealed as the mastermind behind a decade-long surprise attack on the New York gossip website Gawker.

This is what happened.

Earlier this year, Hulk Hogan took Gawker to court, suing them for $100m in damages after Gawker published a highlights reel of an apparently secretly-recorded sex tape which showed Hogan chucking it up his former-best friend’s wife.

We’ve written about the particulars of that case elsewhere, but all that’s important to know here is that Hogan won – and won big. The jury awarded him $140m in damages: $40m more than he wanted and about $100m more than anyone realistically expected him to get.

It was an absolutely brutal result for Gawker. They had been braced for a loss, but to nothing like that degree. Damages that severe could bankrupt the company, and if they don’t manage to reduce the sum (or overturn the judgment) on appeal then it could be the end of Gawker. The actual end of them.

How does Peter Thiel factor into all of this?

Thiel, it turns out, was anonymously bankrolling Hogan’s legal fees. Not out of some charitable sense of philanthropy (though he has tried to position it as such) but as a cold, calculated revenge tactic.

Gawker used to run a specialist blog (what now gets call a ‘vertical’) dedicated to the goings on of Silicon Valley, named Valleywag. Back in December 2007, Valleywag published an article (headlined with typical Gawker panache): Peter Thiel Is Totally Gay, People.

Outing people has always been one of the dicier parts of Gawker’s editorial mission. Their insistence on doing so has cost them dearly before. Last year, they chose to out a high-level executive working at Condé Nast, which caused massive uproar from both their peers and the public at large. In response, Gawker deleted the post which caused a second, internal revolt within Gawker’s editorial team – with an executive editor and editor-in-chief of gawker.com quitting as a result.

Bad though the fall-out from that 2015 story was, they had no idea that Peter Thiel was busy quietly fulfilling the promise he had made to Gawker founder Nick Denton if Gawker ever outed him: that he would rain down “destruction” on Denton and “other innocent civilians caught in the crossfire”.



Looks like he really wasn’t joking.


Why Is This A Bad Omen? The merits and ethics of Valleywag drawing public attention to Peter Thiel’s sexuality are definitely worthy of discussion and debate, but was it bad enough to shut down an entire media organisation? No. And Peter Thiel knows that because otherwise he would have sued Gawker himself back in 2007.

Instead, he waited and waited and waited for the perfect moment to pounce. In the Hogan case, Thiel spotted his chance. A way to do the sort of damage he has wanted to do to Gawker for ten years, but has never had the legal grounding to do so.

For a relatively minor investment ($10m – less than 0.5% of Peter Thiel’s net worth) in someone else’s case, Thiel could drive Gawker into the ground – and this isn’t the only lawsuit that he has coughed up for.

If the constant litigation does eventually shut Gawker down, it will be as much to do with the fact that they wrote an unflattering (but unactionable) piece about Thiel in 2007 than it ever was about publishing Hulk Hogan’s sex tape.

And that sets a very, very scary precedent.

Famine


What’s Her Name? Arianna Huffington


Who Is She? The founder and titular Huffington of the Huffington Post.


What’s Her Deal? Once described by LA Magazine as “the Edmund Hillary of social climbing,” Huffington is one of those multi-hyphenate power players who charms everyone she meets and will turn her hand to absolutely anything. A media presence who crops up everywhere – be it in her role as author, political pundit, society darling, or actress – the word ‘Huffington’ soon switched from surname to globally recognised brand when her blog-turned-news-aggregator-turned-unstoppable-content-juggernaut was sold to AOL for $315m.


How Is She Involved In All Of This? There’s an interesting anecdote that Laurie David (the environmentalist activist and ex-wife of Larry David) tells about Arianna Huffington in an old Vanity Fair.

Laurie had been talking with Arianna for months about the devastating effects that the US’s gas consumption was having on the world – both in terms of the environment and geopolitics. The impression Laurie got from Arianna during these discussions was that they were both of the same mind: that things needed to change.

However, when Laurie went to visit Arianna at her home she noticed Arianna had a huge gas-guzzling SUV sat in her driveway. Confused, Laurie pointed out this little inconsistency to Arianna. The next time the two met, Arianna had sold the SUV and replaced it with a electric-hybrid Prius.

This, Laurie says, shows that Arianna is open to change. She listens when people talk to her. She can be convinced of things. She is not afraid to admit the error of her ways and change her behaviour accordingly.

In everything, it seems, except one respect. Paying writers.

Despite having made her name and her personal fortune as an author and journalist – being paid (and paid well) for her own writing – Huffington refuses to pay the vast majority of contributors to her site.

At least not in actual currency. Contributors to HuffPo do so in exchange for ‘exposure’.

Being featured on a platform as widely read as the Huffington Post is, apparently, payment enough. Why would you need to pay your electricity bill if you’re bathing in the warm glow of readers’ adoration?

This salary block doesn’t extend to the site’s staff. The executives and editors who work for AOL or Huffington herself get paid. It’s just the 100,000 contributors that HuffPo claims to have writing for it who don’t.

And it’s not like no-one has pointed this out to Arianna. This isn’t the SUV idling away in her driveway, waiting to be replaced. Lawsuits have been filed against the Huffington Post about this. Boycotts and strikes have been initiated. A decade’s worth of editorials has been pointed at them chastising them for this practice, with some going so far as to compare it to slavery.

Yet has Arianna been convinced of anything? Not even slightly. Whenever this criticism gets levelled, not only does HuffPo brush it off, it actually tries to present its policy of not paying writers as being beneficial for everyone involved.

HuffPo’s UK editor was on Radio 4 earlier this year trying to suggest that, by removing any trace of filthy, corrupting money from the writing process, the Huffington Post actually delivers a purer product than publications which pay.

His rationale – and the general ethos of HuffPo? “If I was paying someone to write something because I want it to get advertising, that’s not a real authentic way of presenting copy. When somebody writes something for us, we know it’s real, we know they want to write it. It’s not been forced or paid for. I think that’s something to be proud of.”

Something to be proud of.


Why Is This A Bad Omen? Fewer people are buying newspapers with every passing year. Print advertising is about to fall off the cliff as journalism is increasingly gathered and consumed online. The rush to publish digitally is greater than ever, but no-one yet seems to know how to make that pay.

One of the few publications which has found a decent stream of revenue is the Huffington Post – but in refusing to pay professionals, instead outsourcing the work to hobby bloggers, it is making the career utterly unsustainable.

The habit of getting writers to work for free (especially online) is not exclusive to HuffPo. It happens all over the internet. But nobody has done more to normalise and promote the culture of volunteer journalism than Arianna Huffington – a woman with a nine-figure net worth who somehow can’t seem to scrape together enough to pay the serfs who made her name so valuable.

Still, at least they get exposure.

And it’s not like anyone ever died of exposure.

Pestilence


What’s His Name? Jeff Bezos


Who Is He? The founder and CEO of Amazon.


What’s His Deal? Currently 5th on the Forbes List of Billionaires, Bezos is the predominant force in e-commerce and online retail. Since the mid-90s, when it started life as an online bookshop, Bezos has gone on to turn Amazon into an all-encompassing retailer of all manner of goods and services – described by one biography as “The Everything Store”. Beyond his involvement in Amazon, Bezos has also been a prominent investor in many tech companies spanning not just the planet, but outer space too. He is everywhere.


How Is He Involved In All Of This? Three years ago, Jeff Bezos added to his burgeoning portfolio of acquisitions, by becoming the owner of the Washington Post – buying it for $250m.

Buying a newspaper is not, in and of itself, an unusual thing for a rich man to do. Newspapers have long been a popular purchase for the multi-millionaire hoping to drum up a bit of publicity for his wares.

Rupert Murdoch, for example, is a notorious cross-promoter. Films made by 21st Century Fox get huge coverage in his tabloids. Books published by HarperCollins are serialised in his broadsheets. Columnists in his papers get regular gigs on his news channels.

Or Richard Desmond – who promotes his own Health Lottery on Channel 5, secures exclusive interviews with the stars of Celebrity Big Brother in OK!, and gave his own autobiography a five-star review in the Daily Express.

The crucial difference with Jeff Bezos however is that he’s not a media baron. He’s in retail. Where Murdoch and Desmond just have TV shows and magazines to plug, Amazon sells everything. Taking ownership of a newspaper therefore presents a much greater opportunity to Bezos than it does to anyone else.

It’s more than a simple case of Bezos preloading the Washington Post app onto Amazon Kindle Fires, or offering cheap subscriptions through his company’s own e-readers though (both of which he does). The plague has spread much more widely then that.

Look at Uber – the cab-hailing service which is doing so much to ‘disrupt’ the taxi industry. Bezos was an early investor in Uber. Although the exact details of his investment are unknown, it is thought his stake in the company could be worth as much as $1.5 billion.

Ordinarily it is considered good form to disclose whether or not the newspaper’s owner has an estimated $1.5 billion shareholding in the companies it is covering – but not at the Washington Post. At least not regularly.

There are a couple of examples of WaPo making it clear that their owner has a large financial stake in Uber. More often than not though they neglect to mention it completely, and Uber is a company they are writing about daily – sometimes multiple times per day.

One article from which a disclosure is notably absent is the one that criticises fellow horseman Arianna Huffington for joining the Uber board of directors. The journalist is entirely correct to cite the obvious conflict of interests that will arise when the Huffington Post covers Uber if the editor-in-chief is an executive there. However, even though disclosure is the very issue at hand, the Washington Post editors somehow completely fail to mention that their own owner has a much larger stake in the company.

And it doesn’t stop there, because Bezos doesn’t just have his fingers in a few pies. He is wrist-deep in dozens of them.

Another company that Bezos has stumped up some cash for is Business Insider – who also do an equally sloppy job of acknowledging the fact that they are giving prominent column inches to companies in which one of their investors has a significant financial interest.

This piece from New Year’s Eve 2015, for example: Don’t Complain About Uber’s Surge Pricing Tonight.

Aside from the imperative command of the headline, the piece then goes on to give a number of impressive stats about Uber’s business performance over the past year – the type of information you might find on, say, a press release or something. Any note of disclosure, attached to it? No, of course not.

Nor is there one on How To Use Uber.

Or Why Uber Won.

Or Uber’s Customer Support Is About To Get A Lot Better.

To be fair to Business Insider, they don’t always forget to include a note of disclosure when talking about Jeff Bezos’s investment and his ownership of the Washington Post.

Even if they do occasionally need a little nudge…



Why Is This A Bad Omen? Both the Washington Post and Bezos himself will insist that he has no influence over the editorial content of the paper – as will Business Insider – but the trouble is that ‘influence’ is actually incredibly hard to isolate and identify.

Bezos owns the paper outright. He bought it with personal funds and therefore doesn’t need to answer to shareholders. The only person to answer to, ultimately, is him.

Which is one thing when you’ve bought a mid-sized paper as a minor vanity project; but when you’ve bought the paper of record in the capital city of the world’s big economy – one of the most iconic titles in the world; a paper whose word really counts for something – the effect is potentially limitless.

So while Bezos may not be actively spiking stories himself, or pitching feature ideas at editorial meetings, his ownership alone is enough to have an influence on the paper. It’s unavoidable – and he doesn’t need to actually do anything for it to happen.

And, as we’re about to see with Pierre Omidyar and his adventures into journalism, sometimes doing nothing is the worst thing you can possibly do.

Death


What’s His Name? Pierre Omidyar


Who Is He? The founder of eBay.


What’s His Deal? In a sea of Silicon Valley dick-swingers, Omidyar is an unusually reclusive and timid figure. A wearer of flip-flops and beaded bracelets, he resisted the lure of San Francisco and chose the relative peace and quiet of Honolulu instead – partly to distance himself from the rest of the tech pack, partly because of his looming fear of global catastrophe. You see, somewhat unnervingly, Omidyar has a touch of the Doomsday prepper about him. He has reportedly stockpiled emergency rations of food across America, and owns a remote ranch in Montana that he and his family can retreat to in the event of an apocalyptic disaster.


How Is He Involved In All Of This? Omidyar suffered a huge bout of FOMO when the announcement was made that Jeff Bezos had bought the Washington Post. He had been made the exact same offer by Don Graham previously but had turned it down, feeling that the price of $250m was too high.

But once the deal was done he realised he’d had his head turned. So as Bezos took control of the Post, Omidyar decided he would start his own media organisation. Thus, First Look Media was born.

Investing the same amount that Bezos had shelled out to acquire the Post, Omidyar pledged $250m of his own money to the project and began to assemble a crack team of journalists who had caught his eye. Among those he poached were Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone, Ken Silverstein of Harper’s and John Cook of Gawker. The marquee signings for Team Omidyar though were Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras: the journalists who worked with Edward Snowden to break the NSA surveillance scandal.

He set them all up to work across First Look Media’s two proposed titles: The Intercept (which was Greenwald and co.) and Racket (Taibbi’s baby).

For a brief moment everyone there was full of enthusiasm at the prospect of starting up a new, hard-hitting organisation, one which promised to produce “aggressive, adversarial journalism across a wide range of issues”.

In practice though, things went south very quickly.

Nine months later, with Racket still unlaunched, Taibbi left First Look to rejoin Rolling Stone.

Two weeks after that, Cook left to return to Gawker – preferring to walk back into the brewing gak storm surrounding Hulk Hogan (the one Peter Thiel was whipping up from the sidelines) than stick around.

It wasn’t until Silverstein left three months later that the blood and guts really started to spray though. Shortly after his departure, Silverstein wrote a scathing portrait of life at First Look for Politico, entitled Where Journalism Goes to Die – which, among other things, helped explain the reason for such a mass exodus.

Silverstein claimed that Omidyar’s micromanagement of the business side was suffocating everything. For all of his talk about giving journalists the freedom to report fearlessly, when it came to actually running the company, Omidyar wasn’t really all that interested in supporting the newsroom or facilitating good journalism. That’s why Racket folded before publishing a single word. That’s why The Intercept had such a rocky start, such a drastic implosion and such a shaky recovery.

According to Silverstein, Omidyar just couldn’t get anything sorted. He watched on as story after story languished in a weird sort of purgatory – with Omidyar’s constant faffing about budgets, hires and expenses taking priority over actually publishing anything.

It must have been tremendously annoying for Silverstein to be scooped so frequently and see the stories he had worked on getting picked up by other papers – but at least they were getting picked up somewhere. Because the same isn’t true of the biggest story that First Look was sat on.

In buying up Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras – the only two people with full access to Edward Snowden’s files – Omidyar had effectively bought up the rights to the NSA surveillance scandal. That meant that the papers which had previously been running those stories suddenly had their supply cut off.

The papers in question? The Guardian and… the Washington Post.

It wouldn’t have been so much of a problem had The Intercept been in any fit state to publish, but because of the hopeless management, further developments on the NSA story were delayed for months on end.

Being hopeless at management is fine if you’re running GOOP (all due respect to Gwyneth Paltrow) but when you are the sole outlet in charge of publishing the story of government-sanctioned national surveillance programs, it becomes a much more serious state of affairs.


Why Is This A Bad Omen? The amounts of cash that the venture capitalists of Silicon Valley are prepared to slosh about haven’t been seen in media for years and years and years – if ever.

Money is the major answer to a lot of journalism’s biggest problems at the minute, so it is no wonder that journalists are following it wherever it goes.

To a team of journalists, $250m is a significant, serious sum. To Pierre Omidyar, it’s a fraction of his net worth. For all the hassle it would cause him to lose it completely, he could have thrown it down on a hand of blackjack.

But for that money – and with very little effort – he has managed to throttle the life out of one of the most important news stories of the century so far.

If we are to follow the Book of Revelation to the letter (as apocalyptic prophesies go, it seems like a fairly solid blueprint) then the arrival of Death on his pale horse is the signal that Hades, Lord of the Underworld, is due to appear any moment.

Hades’ job, more or less, is to polish off what the horsemen started. Namely: hand out white robes to those who have done the Lord’s bidding, then seriously feth up the rest of us with fire and dragons and meteors.

When that happens, there is no return. It is quite literally a scorched earth situation.

Hopefully the bickering that is currently taking place between the horsemen – Bezos and Huffington being fussy over Uber; Omidyar having nobbled the Washington Post’s stories; Thiel and Omidyar’s longstanding beef; Huffington joining Thiel in sticking a sly boot into Gawker while Omidyar and Bezos attempt to stand up for free speech – will delay the Devil’s arrival long enough to form some sort of defence.

But given that the Washington Post, the Huffington Post, and Peter Thiel’s personal investment portfolio all draw a significant wedge of their power from Facebook and the traffic that it drives, it could well be that Mark Zuckerberg is Hades, Lord of the Underworld – and he’s already here.

So it’s lucky he’s such a benevolent, merciful and handsome master to have, isn’t it?



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 insaniak wrote:

Damage to professional reputation (which would have a direct affect on potential earning power), combined with damage to his private life and relationships (as the sex tape was with his best friends wife, IIRC).


None of which equates to such a vast sum of money. Perhaps if the tape was fake.....

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The vast sum of money is probably indicative of just how much the jury hated what happened, and an echo of the general thoughts in this thread that Gawker sucks XD No one likes a rat, especially not a rat who seems to confuse news with "lets just be donkey-caves"

   
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As part of the jury I would probably add 100-139 million to any awarded damages just for having to watch a Hulk Hogan sex tape more than zero times.
   
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As part of the jury I would probably add 100-139 million to any awarded damages just for having to watch a Hulk Hogan sex tape more than zero times.


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 LordofHats wrote:
The vast sum of money is probably indicative of just how much the jury hated what happened


He only asked for $100 million total. The jury was so pissed they added the extra $15 million in comp and $25 million in punitive.


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Ugh. What a completely unsympathetic case, the trashy gossip site vs. the cheating . On appeal can we rule that both sides forfeit all of their money and are banned from ever being in public again?

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 Peregrine wrote:
Ugh. What a completely unsympathetic case, the trashy gossip site vs. the cheating . On appeal can we rule that both sides forfeit all of their money and are banned from ever being in public again?


I am agreeing with Peregrine.

Wow what has the world come to?

Nothing, other than hulk hogan and gawker media...

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 Silent Puffin? wrote:

None of which equates to such a vast sum of money. Perhaps if the tape was fake.....

Yes and no.

If the suit was against a private individual, then yes, the amount might be excessive.

When it's against a multi-million dollar company, punishment should be sufficient to actually BE a punishment. A smaller figure might well have seen Gawker just pay it, shrug and move on, treating it as merely part of the cost of doing business. That's not a deterrent against doing it again...

 
   
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On the other hand, an amount so large as to bankrupt them isn't a "deterrent" either. At least, not to Gawker, since they won't exist anymore.

If the argument is that it's a deterrent to the web publishing industry, though, it makes sense.

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Good riddance.
   
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Couldn't care less about garbage like Gawker. Good riddance. Unfortunately they're just the symptom of a bigger issue. Now if we could actually dry up the pool of brain-dead trolls that feed off this type of fodder and provide the market for the Gawkers of the world, then we'd actually be getting somewhere.
   
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 Ouze wrote:
On the other hand, an amount so large as to bankrupt them isn't a "deterrent" either. At least, not to Gawker, since they won't exist anymore.


Since the sheer size of the damages were sufficient to all but certainly bankrupt the company should that kind of thing be done via a criminal court? Morally at least.

As for sending a warning to the industry, will it do any good when the parent company can simply move of shore somehere safe for such rulings?

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