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We'll find out soon enough eh.

 schoon wrote:
While I can't really defend GW's seeming inability to anticipate demand for AT products, they are guessing with information that's 9 months old with production and shipping times...


The problem from our perspective as customers isn't so much that they keep consistently failing to properly estimate demand, that's just an annoyance. The problem is their response to that failure is seemingly completely random and we never get told what it's going to be.

Will they reprint the product? Sometimes, but they won't tell us either way, or they will tell us but not until enough time has passed that a lot of folk have gone ebay hunting and paid scalperscum over the odds for them. Will they put a high-res print-ready version up on WHC for free? Sometimes, again they won't tell us unless and until they put up the article. Will they just let it vanish into the ether, never to be mentioned again? Yup, that too.

This has been a consistent enough problem that by now they should have developed a policy to deal with it, and "make more up-front" is only one possible solution. They could set up their contract with the printers they use so as to give them an option to do another run at shorter notice. They could do exactly what they did way back in the day with plastic casting and buy up a small British printing business for the expertise and initial machinery and bring their printing - at least for cardstock products - in-house, and build in some capacity for production surges on products they underestimate demand for. They could carry on exactly as they are ordering only small print runs, but acknowledge openly that will be the case, that the print run is just for people who really like physical doodads, and commit to putting the high-res print files up for free as soon as the initial run sells out, in every case. Hell, they could sell us the digital version, so long as it's a standard option.

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There is talk (not sure whether its reality though) that that is one of the things they're planning for their new factory space, being able to do at least some printing in house

 
   
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Legio Gryphonicus transfers back in stock

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got my warp missiles. glad to see some transfers back. waiting on atarus ones. And waiting on 28mm versions of some of these weapons.
   
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Well I never, its a Titanicus article on the community site!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/08/20/painting-on-a-titanicus-scale/

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Still no sight of that knight upgrade pre-order. Maybe next week.

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Probably December at this rate, knowing our luck...

I suppose it will release alongside a repacked Questoris set.

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White not strictly AT news, it's worth noting that Aeronautica Imperialis has been confirmed to be 8mm scale - consistent with AT.
   
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 schoon wrote:
White not strictly AT news, it's worth noting that Aeronautica Imperialis has been confirmed to be 8mm scale - consistent with AT.


Yes, it seems to be either a hint that Titanicus and Aeronautica are part of something bigger in the future, or maybe just information to ensure customers are not disappointed to see small versions of 28mm kits.

For the time being, I reckon that next August we could see a third epic game focused on tank warfare. This would allow for both new narrative missions for Titanicus and a possible combined arms game focusing on knights, aircraft and tanks...

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 schoon wrote:
White not strictly AT news, it's worth noting that Aeronautica Imperialis has been confirmed to be 8mm scale - consistent with AT.


Well if it's confirmed to be 8mm it's bigger scale than the AT which is 6mm.

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All the trader email said was "in scale with Titanicus". Numbers weren't mentioned.
   
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SamusDrake wrote:
 schoon wrote:
White not strictly AT news, it's worth noting that Aeronautica Imperialis has been confirmed to be 8mm scale - consistent with AT.


Yes, it seems to be either a hint that Titanicus and Aeronautica are part of something bigger in the future, or maybe just information to ensure customers are not disappointed to see small versions of 28mm kits.

For the time being, I reckon that next August we could see a third epic game focused on tank warfare. This would allow for both new narrative missions for Titanicus and a possible combined arms game focusing on knights, aircraft and tanks...


Something I noticed on the downloadable terminal PDFs is that they all say copyright GW 2020, despite being released in May 2019. Perhaps they were redesigned as part of a new starter box / relaunch next year?

Chopstick wrote:
Still no sight of that knight upgrade pre-order. Maybe next week.


Hoping this will be previewed alongside AI tomorrow. GW loves putting lots of specialist games stuff all together.
   
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tneva82 wrote:

Well if it's confirmed to be 8mm it's bigger scale than the AT which is 6mm.


Okay, going forward here is a list of acceptable names for AT's scale...

EPIC scale.
Little scale.
1/4 28mm scale.
Non-28mm scale.
Fantastic Voyage scale.
Adventures of the Mini-Goddess scale.
Incredible-shrinking-man scale.
Tinker-bell scale.
The scale formly known as 8mm scale.
Episodeofblakes7whereOracreduceshissize scale.

...I think that just about covers it!

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 xttz wrote:

Something I noticed on the downloadable terminal PDFs is that they all say copyright GW 2020, despite being released in May 2019. Perhaps they were redesigned as part of a new starter box / relaunch next year?


Oh yes! It does indeed say 2020. You could be onto something there...


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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Baby-Titan
40K Statuary
Wallet Sized Titans


Dang, we've opened a can of worms here...

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SamusDrake wrote:
...I think that just about covers it!


Nice!
   
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 schoon wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
...I think that just about covers it!


Nice!


You laugh now, but if you deviate from that list we'll be after you!

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Not much, but Titanicus is mentioned...

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/08/27/aeronautica-imperialis-the-modelsgw-homepage-post-2fw-homepage-post-2/

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To be fair all it says is that they are the same scale, which we all knew/assumed already (save for the handful of people going nuts over a few mm difference in scale). In general it sounds like the game is going to likely advance the Xenos line a lot faster than AT did.

This is likely because GW realises that they don't have an exhausted number of air units they can just throw at people in Imperial VS Imperial games. It might also be that advancing Xenos earlier here is a lot cheaper than in AT and thus they are going to use it to test the potential popularity of Xenos.


Personally I'd be very excited to see Tyranids appear!

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OMG, Tyranids would be awesome.

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 Overread wrote:
It might also be that advancing Xenos earlier here is a lot cheaper than in AT and thus they are going to use it to test the potential popularity of Xenos.


It would be a mistake for GW to assume that the volume of sales for any given faction in Aeronauticus could give them useful information concerning the demand for that same faction in Adeptus Titanicus.

I myself would happily purchase an Ork force for Titanicus; however, I have no interest in Aeronauticus as a stand alone product.


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 Overread wrote:
It might also be that advancing Xenos earlier here is a lot cheaper than in AT and thus they are going to use it to test the potential popularity of Xenos.


Ork Gargants take up a lot of sprue space for their size, but Eldar on the other hand would not. A single knight sized sprue could probably fit a revenant with all the options, and even a few extras, if not two. A Phantom would need more options added to take up the space of even 2 of the 3 warlord sprues.
   
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SamusDrake wrote:
tneva82 wrote:

Well if it's confirmed to be 8mm it's bigger scale than the AT which is 6mm.


Okay, going forward here is a list of acceptable names for AT's scale...

EPIC scale.
Little scale.
1/4 28mm scale.
Non-28mm scale.
Fantastic Voyage scale.
Adventures of the Mini-Goddess scale.
Incredible-shrinking-man scale.
Tinker-bell scale.
The scale formly known as 8mm scale.
Episodeofblakes7whereOracreduceshissize scale.

...I think that just about covers it!


Whatever works as long as the misinformation about 8mm stops. Epic has never been 8mm. 6mm has been the official date for epic(though before it didn't follow it uniformly so titans were more like 2mm scale). AT was 6mm from the day 1.

and it matters. If people make terrain for 8mm it's 33% too big!

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5265 pts
5150 pts
~3200 pts Knights

 
   
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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
 Overread wrote:
It might also be that advancing Xenos earlier here is a lot cheaper than in AT and thus they are going to use it to test the potential popularity of Xenos.


Ork Gargants take up a lot of sprue space for their size, but Eldar on the other hand would not. A single knight sized sprue could probably fit a revenant with all the options, and even a few extras, if not two. A Phantom would need more options added to take up the space of even 2 of the 3 warlord sprues.


If memory serves, the Phantom wouldn't be much off the Wraithlord in terms of size? Maybe a bit smaller?

My hope is they'd make it more posable than Imperial Titan - especially as it doesn't have the same sort of dedicated, ablative armour platng.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

If memory serves, the Phantom wouldn't be much off the Wraithlord in terms of size? Maybe a bit smaller?


The 28mm Phantom is taller than the Warlord IIRC; it's head is level with the top of the carapace while the holofield fins stand a fair bit higher. That would put it level with a 28mm Knight (although far less bulky).

Spoiler:
Of course the most recent fluff I can find says it's 10-15 metres shorter than it should be!

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tneva82 wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
tneva82 wrote:

Well if it's confirmed to be 8mm it's bigger scale than the AT which is 6mm.


Okay, going forward here is a list of acceptable names for AT's scale...

EPIC scale.
Little scale.
1/4 28mm scale.
Non-28mm scale.
Fantastic Voyage scale.
Adventures of the Mini-Goddess scale.
Incredible-shrinking-man scale.
Tinker-bell scale.
The scale formly known as 8mm scale.
Episodeofblakes7whereOracreduceshissize scale.

...I think that just about covers it!


Whatever works as long as the misinformation about 8mm stops. Epic has never been 8mm. 6mm has been the official date for epic(though before it didn't follow it uniformly so titans were more like 2mm scale). AT was 6mm from the day 1.

and it matters. If people make terrain for 8mm it's 33% too big!


I've sent an email to Forgeworld to provide a clear mm scale for Aeronautica and Titanicus. That should help going forward.

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I would really love to get into AT and I really like Legio Astorum. I hope they re-release the transfer sheet and make Lucius Pattern head options for the Warlords. Until then I dont really want to commit to them.
   
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I have now received a reply from Forgeworld and they have informed me that neither 40K nor Titanicus directly adheres to any scale, even though 40K is similar to 28mm scale.

They told me that 40K and Titanicus scales are best referred to as "40K scale" and "Titanicus scale" respectively. Also they are pleased to say that Aeronautica models are "Titanicus scale". Sadly...they have no information as to whether Aeronautica models will have rules for use in Adeptus Titanicus. Oh well, I did at least ask!

So, the final word is that Adeptus Titanicus does not "directly adhere" to neither 6mm nor 8mm scale or any other scale for that matter. So from now on, if anyone caught saying "its 6mm" or "8mm" - we must report it to a member of the Dakka staff who will then have them scheduled for a firing squad...JUST KIDDING!!!! No, we just tell them that the models are not any specific scale and it is simply "Titanicus Scale".

Thank you to Forgeworld for clearing that up.

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tneva82 wrote:
Well if it's confirmed to be 8mm it's bigger scale than the AT which is 6mm.


AT is 8mm
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/08/08/8th-aug-adeptus-titanicus-war-on-a-new-scalegw-homepage-post-4fw-homepage-post-1/

Adeptus Titanicus is mere days away, and soon, battlegroups of Warlord Titans supported by Questoris Knights will be waging war on tabletops across the world – and we thought it was high time to talk about the game’s astonishing models. Chris Drew from the Specialist Games team is the man responsible for turning the huge Warhammer 40,000 models into their 8mm scale counterparts – and here he is to talk about the process.

I guess I should add the titans in AT2018 are 8mm in epic scale they where 6mm with the infantry approximately 8mm and tanks out of scale somewhere in between.

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