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New preview at Spiel this Thursday.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
What part of "just starting out" did you folks not understand?

All of it. At no point when starting something have I ever wanted incomplete rules or instructions.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/10/24/the-scoop-from-spielGw-homepage-post-2/?fbclid=IwAR3_i7p30pLYMTyWts9jM6ppNyq9Pc_SOaB_SNoGxgJy9h4gxbPzbWF4NX8

Wow! Fantastic all round. Although it is a shame there don't seem to be any female warriors for either side... but I think I shall be opting for a couple of sets!

Very nice, now that look like a proper starter.

Ok...

New starter box it seems. This will be $100 more than the current one, so that will suck.

Expanded Enforcers is a double edged sword. On one hand they look great. On the other hand thanks GW for holding them back and putting 2x5 of the same guys in the box rather than two different sprues.

The terrain looks fine. I'd have to see what it's capable of, and right now I fear the only thing it'll be capable of is being really expensive and not being able to cover your average Necromunda table.

And, much to my personal surprise given how much I've liked all the miniatures so far that have come out for Newcromunda*, I really don't like the cultists. They're... awful.


*"But HMCDX, I thought you hated the Delaque minis!"

No I think they're very nice minis, I just don't think they look anything like Delaques.

Great looking set but yeah I think the volume of this type of terrain will seriously bloat the cost. I could see this being more than the warcry starter and that was already almost too much for me.

The cultists surprise me, they look more fantasy esque than I expected. I had in mind a lot more flayed skin, body parts and trophies taken from enemies etc. The helmets are odd cause they don't look fashioned by other things but almost look crafted from scratch to look demonic. They also look almost entirely melee focused, unlike the goliaths which have some options.

This looks like something I'll definitely want to pick-up, assuming it is Warcry starter price or less. I'd gotten out of Necromunda because my buddies weren't very interested in playing the gangs and thus didn't want to give it a go, but I think something like this would be more interesting to them.

I agree with the above points, I really hope GW doesn't think this is acceptable as a 200$ USD product.

Also I sincerely hope we get a full rulebook in it, not some monstrosity that has no campaign rules.

Forgive the YouTube lines. Best I could do.







Just trying to get the best shots of the new terrain.


EDIT: And on second look I don't dislike the cultists. I intently dislike the skull-masks half of them are wearing. Get a decent head-swap, and I think we're golden.

EDIT 2: And now I cannot unsee the backwards shells in the ram. The way they've painted it they look like shotgun shells with the brass around the wrong way.

Hahaha, nice catch on the shotgun shells. I think that enforcer is in for some serious trouble.

I think the Cultists look pretty cool personally. I do think the ones with Vent/Visor style helmets look much better than the skulls though.

Corspe Grinder cultist kit look like some next level monobuilt kit. They have 2 axes or a flail saw, and auto pistol for cultist, that's it?

Ok, so, over thinking this as much as I can, there are 15 cultists. That means three sprues of 5.

On each sprue there are two... let's call them Juves for lack of a better description, and 3 gangers. This gives us a massive amount of duplication, given that there are exactly 3 poses for each of the Gangers.

If you look at this picture you can see that:

The Juves have two poses and exactly 4 weapon options (a pistol in either hand, one hand with a sword, and opposite hand with a chainaxe). Great variety, especially with the way that the left-hand pistol is raised up in the same pose three times.

There appears to be some variations on chests with the gangers, as (from the left) second mini/top row and fourth mini/bottom row have the same chest, but different legs. Unfortunately the chest appears to dictate the weapons, as they are both holding the same axe arm outstretched in their right hand. That's more of that modern GW variety there.

What's most impressive is that in 15 miniatures they managed to create two that are almost identical (the two circular saw guys). Only difference between them are their legs. They even used the same damned head! Only appear to be 6 heads from what I can tell.

Corpse Guild appears to consist of 3 repeated sprues of 5 models each, based on the duplicate bodies.

Good to see new figures with some of the big missing options for the Enforcers. Though it would have been better to have these available or at least previewed on release...

Hoping it won't be long until the rumoured second sprues for the House Gangs appear (juves and more bits for champions - though I feel they can be made from the current sets, I just like having more options!).

Scenery looks great; variable and a nicely chaotic/messy. Dreading the pricetag.

The enforcer subjugators are superb.

Looks like the main set comes with a printed mat but the screenshots show modular floor sections .. Hope this stuff isn't too pricey as I like the terrain a lot

 silverstu wrote:
Looks like the main set comes with a printed mat but the screenshots show modular floor sections...

Oh sweet. So we're getting short-changed on the terrain in the box box.

Awesome. That'll totally be worth it's AUD$300+ price tag.

I like some of the heads on the chaos dudes, but some not so much.

Might be a case of using these:
https://puppetswar.eu/models-and-bits-47/all-bits/heads/hooded-iron-mutants-heads.html

Damn it. I thought November would be a light month for job hobby purchases. Can't pass this up though.

I'm already bought into necromunda, so I will for sure be buying this.

Especially if the Sisters box prices me out.

On the plus side, I don't think I have to worry about this Necromunda starter selling out.

balmong7 wrote:


On the plus side, I don't think I have to worry about this Necromunda starter selling out.

In my experience box with big terrain like this always selling out within 6 months.


Unless of course, they charge 200US$ for this.

Sorry to be all negative here.
As far as my personal opinion go, the cultists would have been great as a cheap not-marine unit for world eaters, but I dont get any kind of Necromunda vibes from them.
They look to big, and lack the utilitarian and more realistic gear represented in the necromunda esthetic. These guys look like they have their own factory for a custom produced "evil" collection.

Furthermore, whats with the bloated gangs? 26 models -thats one more model than the first Psychic Awkening box -and that box was claimed to be 2 mighty armies

To me this bloat in style and numbers just set of lots of warning bells.
But to be honest, I have not even played newcromunda yet, even if I got the new cawdor gang.

 Fayric wrote:

Furthermore, whats with the bloated gangs? 26 models -thats one more model than the first Psychic Awkening box -and that box was claimed to be 2 mighty armies

Unlike Killteam or Warcry, most scenario only allow a handful number of models (less than 10) into battle, and in the one that everyone can fight, there're no upper limit, but having too many people in the gang dillute your pool (for when (many) scenario use random selection crew) while also inflate your gang rating, it's never a good thing.

I don't hate any of it but the cultists really need more sensible heads. Why horns?

Also the walls look a bit underdetailed.

All the better for posters and graffiti

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I don't hate any of it but the cultists really need more sensible heads. Why horns?

Also the walls look a bit underdetailed.

Because otherwise they look just like Goliath knock off.

Also doesn't look like the walls lock down to the tiles in any way, they just slide around or wobble on any raised detail.

Because the tiles are actually just a board in the box. Looks like the plastic floor is what happens when you have unlimited budget (ie. GW terrain displays). I'd be surprised if there were actual 1x1 plastic tiles with this release.

And I just noticed... the Enforcers have 11 models. So the new sprue has 1 new guy on it, and then all the missing weapons that should have been in the damned Enforcer box to begin with. That box had the hide to charge us $5 extra for some fething transfers, yet this sprue which has all the other weapons was just not there.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Because the tiles are actually just a board in the box. Looks like the plastic floor is what happens when you have unlimited budget (ie. GW terrain displays). I'd be surprised if there were actual 1x1 plastic tiles with this release.

And I just noticed... the Enforcers have 11 models. So the new sprue has 1 new guy on it, and then all the missing weapons that should have been in the damned Enforcer box to begin with. That box had the hide to charge us $5 extra for some fething transfers, yet this sprue which has all the other weapons was just not there.

Yeah, I already have one box of Enforcers and was just about to buy a second for the inevitable Forge World upgrade set that would hopefully include shields.. and now this. I can't see them updating the existing Enforcer gang box or selling this one separately so.. er... nerts.

Chopstick wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I don't hate any of it but the cultists really need more sensible heads. Why horns?

Also the walls look a bit underdetailed.

Because otherwise they look just like Goliath knock off.

I mean, some of them literally are - check the butt-shots from HBMC's post, one of them looks like they just took a Goliath CAD file and slapped some extra gubbinz on top. Which kinda makes sense I suppose, but feels extra lazy given the rest of the gang is just the same sprue x3 and they put such minimal effort into pose variety on that one, single sprue.

I'm certainly glad I only bought one box of Enforcers when they came out, I feel for anyone who bought two or three thinking they'd have to convert or get resin upgrades for the missing gear. On the basis of them, I certainly wouldn't be buying very many of the Corpsegrinder models even if I did find them appealing, because hey who knows, maybe in a few months they'll "patch" the kit with more poses and options.

The ZM walls look great at first glance - they fixed the arches, huzzah! - but the real questions are still A; the price, especially when you have to buy the floors separately, and B; have they tweaked the dimensions to make them compatible with the modern terrain kits.

I loved the look of this new set, but my god am I pissed off that the enforcers box I got was only half a box. I thought it felt a bit lightweight, so much so I abandoned building the models after 5 of them.