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2016/12/25 05:35:06
Subject: Alien Covenant - movie discussion starts pg 10
-Loki- wrote: Looks good, but then so did Prometheus.
My thoughts exactly. We don't have Damon Lindelof writing this time, so I am cautiously optimistic.
This. On the special features of Prometheus you could pinpoint when the project went tits up and it was the moment the studio sent Lindelof to replace the original writer.
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
I'm sure it will be an entertaining flick, but its unlikely it will become some kind of new favorite of mine. A few years ago Ridley Scott said the alien was old, no longer scary and he had no interest in doing more of the same. Now hes backtracked and made this. So what is this quackery. Hr Gigers influence and bio mechanics are all but gone. The shower scene looks like an immense cliche.
Prometheus may have been really dodgy and had some bad moments. But it set the stage for something really unique and special to come after. But instead we are getting another Alien movie.
A cast including james franco and danny mcbride already has me nervous. So far Blade Runner remains my #1 anticipated movie this year.
No idea what to make of this trailer honestly. The cuts from stepping on the spore pods to seeing some kind of something floating into David's (?) ear are causing Prometheus flashbacks. It's hard to sympathize with characters doing stupid things who should know better. Maybe we are supposed to root for the xenomorph(s)? The lack of Noomi Rapace is also unsettling, indicating Prometheus unanswered questions may just linger.
Manchu wrote: It's hard to sympathize with characters doing stupid things who should know better.
Yeah I'm hoping there is some context for what we are seeing that makes people seem a bit less purely foolish. I am wondering if the the ship that is found is the one from Prometheus that had Michael Fassbinder and Noomi Rapace on it. I hope not as crash landed ship would be somewhat boring again.
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
If it follows the comics at all that's the same planet and crashed ship not Too much later and that jungle has grown out of nowhere because of the black goo stuff getting out and contaminating the lands and making stuff mutate and evolve.
Manchu wrote: It's hard to sympathize with characters doing stupid things who should know better.
Yeah I'm hoping there is some context for what we are seeing that makes people seem a bit less purely foolish. I am wondering if the the ship that is found is the one from Prometheus that had Michael Fassbinder and Noomi Rapace on it. I hope not as crash landed ship would be somewhat boring again.
Plot summary on wiki says that's what's happening. They find what appears to be an uninhabited planet, but come across David from Prometheus (with their own Fassbender android, Walter).
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Manchu wrote: It's hard to sympathize with characters doing stupid things who should know better.
Yeah I'm hoping there is some context for what we are seeing that makes people seem a bit less purely foolish. I am wondering if the the ship that is found is the one from Prometheus that had Michael Fassbinder and Noomi Rapace on it. I hope not as crash landed ship would be somewhat boring again.
Plot summary on wiki says that's what's happening. They find what appears to be an uninhabited planet, but come across David from Prometheus (with their own Fassbender android, Walter).
So they finally broke the Andriod Alphabet.
I mean that, in order, the androids have been called Ash, Bishop, Call and David.
To be honest, Danny Mcbride is the only reason I'm going to give this movie a shot.
I despise Prometheus with a passion that most would reserve for a man who killed thier father and I sadly see a lot of the same in this trailer.
Technology that doesnt fit the timeline of the universe, morons walking around without helmets on alien planets caise you know bacteria isn't a thing, and a new David to go all sociopath on them cause reasons!
But god damnit that man is my weakness, damn you Mcbride... wait, Francos in this too? ... damnit yeah lemme save the date.
Honestly, the movie looks like garbage. Everything that I liked about Prometheus (and I liked it when I first watched it in theaters, and have grown to like it a lot more) such as the new setting and the engineers, seems to be gone and replaced with the same Alien cliches we've had for years.
I don't know that I would blame Ridley Scott for this direction though, there was a massive outcry from fans that there wasn't enough "Alien" in Prometheus, so it's likely the studio is telling Scott to fill it up with more of the same. It's shame if that's the case, because you aren't giving the fans anything new, and are essentially murdering the story from Prometheus that some fans enjoyed and that did have potential to give us something new.
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-Loki- wrote: I've got no problems with Danny McBride or James Franco. Might be interesting seeing Danny McBride in a serious role, and get eaten by an Alien.
I have no problem with either of them, in general. I love Eastbound & Down and Vice Principals. That being said I stand by my concern that Danny McBride is a poor for for thir this movie - I've really never seen him do a serious role. If he does a great job I will be the first to say so but I think it's a bad omen.
I have no concerns about James Franco, who I think has shown he is pretty versatile.
Retrogamer0001 wrote: Honestly, the movie looks like garbage. Everything that I liked about Prometheus (and I liked it when I first watched it in theaters, and have grown to like it a lot more) such as the new setting and the engineers, seems to be gone and replaced with the same Alien cliches we've had for years.
Yes, this is easily my favorite film franchise, but man has it been rudderless. One good movie, one great movie, and then miss after miss after miss.
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Ouze wrote: Yes, this is easily my favorite film franchise, but man has it been rudderless. One good movie, one great movie, and then miss after miss after miss.
I liked 3. I also preferred 1 over 2. But certainly after that it's been quite a poor offering.
While I don't disagree with most of the points raised the one about the technology was addressed. In Prometheus the project is massively funded and had the best tech available whereas Alien was a bunch of space truckers. This one seems to have colonists with something in between. Hopefully they aren't a bunch of complete idiots that constantly make monumentally stupid errors just to keep the plot moving.
I know we talked about it before but it still hurts when you think about the potential Prometheus had versus what was actually done with it.
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
I think I'm in the minority here... I loved Prometheus.
I think people were hoping for more Xenomorphs and more about that ancient race... rather than some 'umies stupidly mucking around things they have no idea about.
The "extraction procedure" in Noomi scene was wicked.
I was burned by Prometheus and Ridley in general from some of his last movies. I will not get excited unless reviews are good.
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Jehan-reznor wrote:I was expecting a sequel to Prometheus, this just looks like a remake - relaunch of the original movie
It looks to me like they're using the sequel to do a franchise relaunch, what with the premise of the sequel basically being identical to the original film.
Jehan-reznor wrote:I was expecting a sequel to Prometheus, this just looks like a remake - relaunch of the original movie
It looks to me like they're using the sequel to do a franchise relaunch, what with the premise of the sequel basically being identical to the original film.
Sequels to prequels that segue back into the original franchise - so hot right now.
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lord_blackfang wrote: Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
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