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Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut




Hi Gang,

I rarely play Flyers, I used to have one in my 40K armies, just because you basically had to.

I was wondering which do you think is the better option in Heresy? (also more fluff for Emperor's Children).

I could go with a Spartan (already have the model) or go with a Storm Eagle?

Just curious as both are very viable options.

   
Made in gb
Unhealthy Competition With Other Legions




Nottingham / Sheffield

Well, they're fairly different.

The spartan, at the end of the day, is a means to get something big and nasty into CC more quickly.
It is a delivery system for something nastier than itsself.
This means you've got to fork out for the base cost,+flare shield, +Armoured ceramite, +a 'star of some flavour to truly make use of the transport capacity.
The lascannon arrays are good at taking on vehicles but not the reason you take a spartan.

Everyone will have a contingency plan for dealing with a spartan.

A storm eagle may not arrive on time, but it is faster and more manouverable than the spartan.
At best you will get a T3 charge out of the eagle, so it isnt a brilliant assault unit.
It could be well used to bring fresh tacticals on to hold deeper objectives though, so is an interesting tactical choice.
It is a very durable flier, with 12 all round and 4 HP, people will need dedicated AA to bring it down. (Contemptor-Mortis Autocannons or a Deredeo)
It it the cheapest vehicle that can carry a full 20-man blob of tacticals.

On another note:
The fire raptor is a blender, its job is to recollect its value as quickly as possible by destroying multiple medium and light vehicles and small MEQ units (special weapons, heavy weapons, support weapons teams).

For ECs, both can be made to work, I assume you have some palatine blades who want to be hitting things ASAP.
A land raider would serve palatines just as well as an assault transport, unless you want 10 blades, a praetor and an apothecary in a single squad.
Phoenix terminators might want a spartan if you are taking more than five.
Tactical blobs, veterans, support sqauds and kakophani gain more from the manouverability of the storm eagle though.

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Made in nz
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New Zealand

I've been combing the Storm Eagle full of Tacticals with the Maru Skara Rite of War to guarantee that it hits the board when i want

That said, it is T3 before i see combat but i try and see it as an opportunity to mop stragglers or assault units with long range fire power that have been placed near the board edge

The Spartan will likely drop units that engage front line enemy units.

So, as DaemonJellyBaby said. Very different roles
   
Made in us
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The best large transport is the Kharybdis. Guaranteed to deliver its payload (unlike the Spartan), in many ways more survivable, and has a more unique role by dealing with flyers than just a handful of lascannons (which you may not fire first turn due to going flat out). Cheaper too.
   
Made in au
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Newcastle NSW

If you have your heart set on a flying transport go for the Caestus Assault Ram otherwise stick with the Spartan

Not a GW apologist  
   
 
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