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Ok so there's a tournament coming up at 1850 using the following guidelines: 1850pts, 1 CAD + Allied Detachment (optional), Formations are ok too, no Super Heavies...



So here is the list, it's a Death Guard Vectorium that completely fits in one CAD...which I think fits with the guidelines for the tourney...



DEATH GUARD VECTORIUM:

Core:
1 Chaos Warband- 1559

Auxilary:
Spawn- 288



Combined Arms Detachment:

HQ:

Chaos Lord- MoN, vets, bike, powerfist, lightning claw, sigil of corruption, gift of mutation- 175

TROOPS:

5 Chaos Space Marines- MoN, vets, plasma gun, champion with powerfist- 130
Rhino- 35

5 Chaos Space Marines- MoN, vets, plasma gun, champion with powerfist- 130
Rhino- 35

ELITES:

5 Chaos Terminators- MoN, vets, 3 combi-meltas, power fist, chainfist, reaper auto cannon, champion with combi-melta- 253

5 Chaos Terminators- MoN, vets, 3 combi-meltas, power fist, chainfist, reaper auto cannon, champion with combi-melta- 253

5 Chaos Terminators- MoN, vets, 3 combi-meltas, power fist, chainfist, reaper auto cannon, champion with combi-melta- 253

FAST ATTACK:

5 Chaos Bikers- MoN, vets, champion with powerfist- 165

4 Chaos Spawn- MoN- 144

4 Chaos Spawn- MoN- 144

Heavy Support:

5 Havocs- MoN, vets, 2 lascannons- 130

TOTAL:

1847

The vectorium and a CAD are 2 separate things you cant make a CAD with a vectorium and vice versa

If only CAD's are aloud, you cant run the warband sadly, which semi-nuders your list. Youll miss out on the reroll 1's and stealth at 18.

You get VotLW for free in the legions

Chaos Lord: drop the gift of mutation, it isn't doing you very good and the buff table is so random odds are youll get something that's not worth it. I'm still up in the air on whether Claws are worth it on Death Guard, as theyre mainly for challenges, and with DG youre I3 anyway, I don't get them but people may disagree.

Generally, a five man squad without a transport is going to get shot to death if it trys to walk across the board. Id drop the PF and either buy them transports, or have them sit in your backline.

If youre going all out with Termies, run them in the Annihilation Force Formation, which you may not be able to do if only one CAD and no formations. If you cant do that, its better to keep them min, give them combis and deepstrike them late game, no chain fists, its too expensive for my taste.

As far as the cad goes, if youre running bikes run double meltas on them, even if going in for the assault, its always better to have them.

You have no anti-air, if you switched the havocs lascannons to Auto cannons, you could get 4 for the same price, and twice the shots, so you got a shot at putting wounds on flyers.

With the points you can save, grab a sorcerer for your bike squad, ML3 with a familiar. Roll on nurgle or biomancy so debuff opponents Str and Tough, it will heklp make your bikers nasty, and if you get iron arm or warp speed, your sorcerer becomes brutal in the assault

Just my thoughts!




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Wait, if you are aloud formations then you should be good, my comments still apply for the most part, sorry for any confusion!

Not sure what the vectorium involves but it's cool to see someone planning to run spawn on their own. People talk up chaos spawn a lot but in actual lists I only ever see them (typically one unit) as retinues for bike lords. 144 points for 12 fast T6 wounds isn't bad at all. It's a pity the kit is so expensive because it looks like a lot of fun to use

It is a bit tricky to figure out what your tournament rules actually are...being allowed only a CAD + Allied Detachment is definitely different than being allowed a Vectorium that happens to fit into a classic "CAD" format. Would Necron players be allowed a Decurion? Could you run a Purge?

If the list is allowed to be fielded as Vectorium, I think you'll be fine, but would do well to drop the mutation (it really is a waste) and to switch the havocs to autocannons.

Claws on Death Guard are, generally, useless. However, when used on a Lord the PF/LC combo is a hallmark (even for Death Guard) for the ability to provide target flexibility (can destroy tanks/MC's or shred infantry more efficiently) while still providing the +1A bonus for having two specialist weapons, and at a 10 point discount to having two powerfists (suck it papa smurf).

If you are not allowed to run your units as a Vectorium, not only will you lose the re-roll benefits, you will also lose the large amount of objective secured the warband provides, and two lonely five man units of CSM as your only obsec units aren't going to cut it.

For your termies, how are you planning to equip the rest of the units melee weapons? Are you starting them on the board or deep striking?

Last thing is I'd really rethink the PF on the unit champions. If you dropped them all, that's 75 more points to put towards something else. As an idea to help out with the getting a Sorcerer, which I also recommend, would be to drop one of the Spawn units and one of the Terminator Units, and to create a Sorcerer on bike along wth beefing up your two CSM units.

Food for thought.