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I remember this was the case awhile ago but changed when the FAQ came out.


What is the current state of the rule?

hey what time is it?

"Try looking on page 12 of the FAQ."

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 Aijec wrote:
I remember this was the case awhile ago but changed when the FAQ came out.


What is the current state of the rule?

Did you check the Main Rulebook FAQ?

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 Ghaz wrote:
 Aijec wrote:
I remember this was the case awhile ago but changed when the FAQ came out.


What is the current state of the rule?

Did you check the Main Rulebook FAQ?


Yes, read through all of the relevant sections and ctrl-f'd for dedicated transport.

No mention of the rule I remember

hey what time is it?

"Try looking on page 12 of the FAQ."

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Florence, KY

Try looking on page 12 of the FAQ.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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What is wrong with you?

hey what time is it?

"Try looking on page 12 of the FAQ."

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Dallas area, TX

 Aijec wrote:
What is wrong with you?

He is following the Forum rules by not quoting it outright. We can do that only when discussing when a rule that is questionable, but in this case, quoting the relevant page number is more than sufficient.
The answers is right there. Hint: there are 2 questions right next to each other that deal with Battle Bros and Same faction transports

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No quote was necessary at all. Is it against the rules to have the decency to simply answer "yes they can"?


"more than sufficient" I don't think you know what that means

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hey what time is it?

"Try looking on page 12 of the FAQ."

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Dallas area, TX

The simple answer is that the BRB says you can, but the FAQ says you cannot.

So no, you cannot. This was clearly spelled out on the page referenced.
You did not have to ask what was wrong with Ghaz if you had just read that page.

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hey what time is it?

"Try looking on page 12 of the FAQ."

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Florence, KY

 Aijec wrote:
No quote was necessary at all. Is it against the rules to have the decency to simply answer "yes they can"?

You were directed to where to find the answer to your question, yet you had to be rude and break rule #1 because it wasn't handed to you on a silver platter.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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Actually, in his second post he specified that he's asking about dedicated transports, which changes the answer I believe.

That said, politeness goes a long way, Aijec, even if you think the other person is being rude.

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Bear in mind that "yes they can" is not the correct answer to your question. Like Galef said, battle brothers cannot deploy on each other's transports, per the FAQ.

They can embark on each other's transports after the game begins, but this does not help with drop pods.

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 Kap'n Krump wrote:
Bear in mind that "yes they can" is not the correct answer to your question. Like Galef said, battle brothers cannot deploy on each other's transports, per the FAQ.

They can embark on each other's transports after the game begins, but this does not help with drop pods.


You're not wrong. It's just a hypothetical simple answer.

This illustrates how ridiculous the frequenters on this YMDC are. Can't answer a simple question without multiple posts but if I even give out an incorrect hypothetical it gets nailed to the boards within a minute. It's literally answering the original question even!

Maybe I should start wording my posts about rules with presumptions in them? "Hey if my squad of heralds and thousand sons sorcerers generate invisibility"....

I'd get my answer right away!

hey what time is it?

"Try looking on page 12 of the FAQ."

-Ghaz 
   
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Dallas area, TX

What you should do is ask questions that illustrates at least that you have tried to find the answer on your own. Like saying that you have read the FAQ (which would have answered the question had you actually read it) and were still confused by it. That is a much better starting point. It is understandable that the FAQ is long and stuff is hard to find. We can help you find the right answer.

What you should not do is attack those gracious enough to give you the relevant material with the clear answer, and then further illustrate your lack of understanding by referring to dedicated transports (which don't even need an FAQ, the BRB clearly says only the units dedicated to them can start in them).

The issue here is that the OP was given the resource with the answer but was apparently too lazy to read it and responded rudely instead of just asking "I can't find it in the FAQ can you give me the quote of the specific FAQ?" We would have done that easily.

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It's very bad form to insult those who are helping you.

Please desist from doing so in future.


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 Galef wrote:
What you should do is ask questions that illustrates at least that you have tried to find the answer on your own. Like saying that you have read the FAQ (which would have answered the question had you actually read it) and were still confused by it. That is a much better starting point. It is understandable that the FAQ is long and stuff is hard to find. We can help you find the right answer.

What you should not do is attack those gracious enough to give you the relevant material with the clear answer, and then further illustrate your lack of understanding by referring to dedicated transports (which don't even need an FAQ, the BRB clearly says only the units dedicated to them can start in them).

The issue here is that the OP was given the resource with the answer but was apparently too lazy to read it and responded rudely instead of just asking "I can't find it in the FAQ can you give me the quote of the specific FAQ?" We would have done that easily.

Actually, he miss-searched the document, which lead to him not finding it (i.e. searching for "dedicated transport").

The thing with that, OP, is that Dedicated Transports do not fit this question at all, since Dedicated Transports have the same Faction and Detachment as the unit they are purchased for, so you wouldn't find it that way.

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