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They really are disgustingly glorious. What is this retro paint comp of which you speak?

monkeytroll wrote:Arakasi - Cheers! As always I look at the finished pics and spot a load that could have been better - but I'm loving the fact that I am compelled to finish models Fast to get the basic build down - now it all slows down as I try to get the details right and get sidetracked by the 40,000 other ideas tugging a my mind

Ha! I have the same problem, well, except for the 40,000 other ideas tugging a my mind. (This is why I haven't gone back to my Orks yet...)

monkeytroll wrote:In the three months I've been back I'm fairly sure I've actually finished more than I had in the previous several years - long term followers will be well aware of that

Aware and likewise .

inmygravenimage wrote:What is this retro paint comp of which you speak?

The Dakka Painting Challenge Round 62 April 2020: Pile Of Shame is coming to a close, next month's looks to have a retro theme - thread TBA.

Good work, MT. Well done on getting the bros done.
Look good too, nice scheme.

Smashing builds as always.

youwas - He's a little sweety really. Thanks!

graven - Cheers! I see Arakasi has already let you know, and saw you posted on the thread

Arakasi - Likewise. The cyborks are silently judging me, but I'm sticking with chaos for now. And likewise

Doc - Thanks, the challenge helps keep me motivated to finish, which was my main reason to take part this year.


So, next round of the dakka paint challenge is up - https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/787921.page#10785811 Old School Cool. I'm currently thinking one of two of the old walkers will be my entry. See if that spurs me to finish building them


And also, next round of the LOER terrain comp is up - https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/787913.page#10785587. Honour Our First Responders - a medical theme. Obviously been a while since I entered, so jumping in on this one - likely some sort of dark mechanicus shenanigans, a bio-forge, flesh-vat, maybe a plague surgeon in the trauma gardens...



Starting putting colours down on the next lot of vehicles...




Going with the green on random plates, this is also used by these guys (need to start coming up with names for the human troops now) as their vehicle identification - Squad Detritus know their chimera has the green back p!ate and front left panel. They'll still get some markings, but don't need a slew of designations.





And realised I only added rivets to the hatch turret How slack!






Currently not sure on the 'interiors' of the salamanders.

Options I'm currently considering are grey (fairly standard), green (again, fairly standard - plus ties in with the green plates, although it would likely be a paler green inside), and bare metal.
Unlikely option is to keep interior black as well, but not really feeling that one.
And there's potential for a bit of mix and match - part bare metal, part colour.
Obviously there will be plenty of weathering on whichever scheme.


And progress on little skittery servitor



Need to add a little circular saw proboscis and detail the legs. Fairly pleased with how the crackle worked on a small scale (not the best pic to showoff) - another pad next to him which I think is going to become a little flying servitor...

monkeytroll,

Looking forward to your entry in the LoER contest.

For the interiors of the Salamanders, you could start with the green and see how it looks...then if to bright just darken it with brown washes to simulate dirt and grime coming off boots and some rust patches here and there and in the corners.

Cheers,

CB

Looks like you've been busy MT! I really like the big skittery evil guy - looks super menacing. And the little skittery evil guy too - reminds me of something out of a dwemer ruin - back to Skyrim again!

The crackle effect is great; almost an optical illusion - is it flesh, is it rust, what is this ungodly mess I'm looking at?

Chimeras (chimerae?)/sallies looking great. I vote green for the interior too, suitably GI-like an as CB says easy to dirty up if you need.

All these contests sound really interesting too - I will have to check out a few of those threads!

CB - I have some idea of what I'm dong, just need to find the right materials now I'm leaning towards the green myself.

tzurk - Fits and starts Always wanted to play more with Dwemer tech I do love the crackle stuff, great for a variety of things.



So, re-worked the gun for fly-head, and this is where he's currently sitting





Except he's had a bit of further work done on the legs...


And whilst working on his fellow armiger, came up with this as a rough concept for something else...






What else....

Started on a card set for the mirror universe..






Maybe not, colours don't match.

Cut out by hand to be tidied a bit at the next stage - sure I could have got fancy with working out centre points for the three discs and then using my circle cutter, but I went the quick and rough way



In come the bases..





Once those were attached it was easy to trim any excess and then file smooth. 40mm and 32mm bases.


Then we find another handy bit of pipe fitting (I must try and remember where I got this stuff from, it has plenty of uses and a variety of bits)



This one we'll stick to a 25mm base. All this sticking bases to stuff, it's like we're back in the 80's.




This one gets a hole drilled in it.




Let's remove those Sigmarite bits and just leave the skulls - always leave the skulls.



Then we can stack the single disc under a trefoil and put the skulls on top of that, and put it all on top of those ridiculous legs for the primaris dread








The 40mm look just a tiny bit too big, whereas the 32mm look a little too small. It's 40k, so probably go with the bigger version Need to assemble some other gubbins - maybe a weapon mount, some more railings, a ladder, stuff like that - then make the final decision on size.

There'll be a marine on there, proclaiming the coming of the pox-god to the unworthy masses. One of a trio (maybe?) of 'heralds'.


Speaking of..

Looking at better head options for the herald mount...






I liked the ratty head in gas-mask, but I think this herald is going to be more of a plague-bringer type, and so maybe a more 'natural' feel. I like the idea of the second one, using hose 'nid glands as compound eyes, bu think that would work better elsewhere, so probably going with the first - add some eyes and do a little defining on the 'snout/mouth/beak'


Also got the interior together for the bio-sentinel




So that got put together. Need to add a hip-shield piece each side, glue the feet, add some more cables maybe, and the weapon.



oh, and this thing...








Which was going to be some kind of drone - although switching out the turbines for some kind of rocket/ramjet/warp-drive would perhaps make a good start for a BFG cruiser. And when I stood it up for that last pic I thought with a tweak to the angle of the turbines and some kind of torso in place of the drone head that would make an interesting character. Best one I have so far is from the nurgle blood bowl team, but it's nor quite big enough to really work as is. More playing needed there..


Thanks for stopping in, as always.

Talking about neater with Nurgle

J’aq and D’aq are awesome.

Sweet update !
Brilliant idea that gasmask head for the herald mount, I'm sure you'll find another place to use it if you go with the more organic solutions...I might steal this though...

Much new goodness here. My favorites are fly-head and that mosquito-looking herald mount. Can't wait to see more!

It just keeps getting gribblier!

I love all you creations, kit-bashes, and conversions monkeytroll. It's always enjoyable looking at your blog.

Dear Nurgle, that's a lot of new conversions Love the walking pulpit

Good work on all the things, from tanks to walking platforms.

Marvelous conversions monkeytroll.

Cheers,

CB

I'm loving your crazy building. Drone horror had given me ideas too. trouble maker

The sentinel and that warp jet thingy are great additions to your armada.

Theo - It has to start neat before it gets corrupted And thanks!

Kernel - Cheers! Oh, there are at least 4 or 5 things that the ratty gasmask has been briefly attached to. The landslides Herald is definitely going to be plague-bearer based, so it fits better having the mount all 'organic' - I know that doesn't necessarily hold with the things I build, but it's how I'm dealing with the various heralds And steal away please...

tinfoil - There was a spurt of activity! Fly-head and mount both making slow progress at present, but progress.

DQH - Pretty much my tagline

Syro_ - Thank you!

Viterbi - The flesh-vats of the dark mechanicus are ever boiling.....

Doc - Cheers bud!

CB - Thank you sir!

graven - Glad you approve I'm just here as a humble conduit of the ruinous powers, if you are filled with the building urge that cannot be laid at my door..

Theo - Well, I have a feeling the next time they appear they may not be a sentinel and a warp-jet thing (although to be fair, warp-jet thing is probably accurate for 50% of my stuff )


Spent a few days reading, watching, playing, so progress on things has been slow.

The old-school school sentinels have barely moved




Still needs weapon and pilot - possibly thinking multi-laser coming out the nose. May also extend the greenstuff on the lower leg parts, to make it look more like it contains a piston, and possibly add some cables.





Again, pilot and weapon needed - there are 2 of this body, one will get a pilot based on the original, other will get one based on the forge world renegades. I'm toying with the idea of an auto-cannon protuding from what is currently a head-light. Also need to bulk up the ankle joint.





This one has a lot of filing done, not sure how apparent that will be. This one gets the iron-strider legs as seen in previous update. Those legs feel quite curvy in relation to the very squared off body, so been rounding off a lot of corners on this one - also why this gets a slightly curvier power pack, and the previous body gets a blockish motor.
Still playing with the feet on this too, haven't got those right yet, first attempt utilised the extra foot pads from the onager dunecrawler, might still be based on them, we'll see.


The three of these will be fun by the filth columnists, the rag-tag humans/muties/cultists that are first down in extended campaigns, spreading early poisons and poxes and recruiting traitors. They don't have the best equipment, hence why they use these old model walkers that have been salvaged and 're-built many times over the centuries, explaining the non-standard builds.


Now, one (or more at the outside) of these was going to be my entry into this month's dakka painting challenge (https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/787921.page#10785811), but as they are still all being built I felt it wise to switch in a substitute at this point.

Initially thought about this guy



Lovely old chaos sorceror that would work well for Nurgle based fun, but rethought I might want to play with him a bit more before putting him to work.

So this guy stepped up to the plate.



Had to rebuild his finger and a bit of his glove, and swapped out his old plain dagger for something with a bit more pox-panache.



Don't want to go the same way as the J'aq and D'aq, so going pale with the robes - three or four layers to go, bringing the highlights up to screaming skull. The bone style armour will be red - as seen, thinking of will get a black wash now, then highlight back up to reddish-orange for high contrast. Contemplating a leopard style pattern on the fur - but possibly in tiger colours. Not sure how well I can pull that off, and not sure on the colour combo either.




Did some tests for possible blades,not convinced by any of them - or indeed that the photo shows them well

Inverse highlighting from light green to black. (Maybe, but a bit bland)
Rust to verdigris type pattern in alternating 'pockets'. (Loved the idea,think it could only be pulled off on a bigger area - by me anyway)
Next three were all variations using crackle paint mixed with colours.
Crackle mixed with flesh and black wash, over green
Crackle mixed with silver over rust.
Crackle mixed with silver over leadbelcher.

Mixing the crackle seems to have degraded the effect. That shot was taken maybe 5 hours after application - no sign of cracking. There seems to be a bit of roughness appeared now - a few hours later, but it didn't crack. I wasn't convinced the wash mix would, but I did think the silver mix would, think the ratio was about 10:1 in favour of crackle. I applied that one on a few other models too, some with bigger surface areas, and no different results.



Clear crackle applied to fly-head's legs, about an hour after application.

So scratch that idea for now.


Also toying with having one of the old familiars with the sorceror.



These are the ones that would work best I feel. Two robes ones are fairly obvious, although they would need to be tattered up. The book could be on a plinth or rock in front, so actually being read. Furry guy would work if I did him in the same pattern as I end housing on the sorceror's furs...



And as a bonus, just been messing around with a bit of corrupting...



Initially just for fun, but now I'm thinking that it might fit well with the upright drone/turbined body from the previous post, to form the basis of some sort of daemon prince.

Those familiars are such delightful little models. Look forward to seeing which one gets chosen.

The gs work on the head is ace. Have you considered a deep, muscly raw red for those plaguebearer arms?

That Demon prince is starting off rotten....by that I mean fantastic .

The green circular leg joints on the sentinels - green plastic or green stuff press mould or other - and from where?

I think the blade test picture is the problem. Number two looks promising - but also looks like a glistening oyster shell effect.

The crackle experiments are interesting - even though yours appeared on the less successful side (but knowledge gained is always a win) - I wonder if a different crackle or paint or wash brands would give different results...

I have my own supply of Chaos Sorcerers and familiars - but none of those! I'd race you to paint them all up - but that might just be lose/lose

Is that an Avatar of Khaine you are corrupting?

 monkeytroll wrote:


Clear crackle applied to fly-head's legs, about an hour after application.

Great texture-work, there. How did you get those very thin strands of muscle/mucus/webbing connecting the blades to the limbs? I really like that effect.

Also digging the gribbly Avatar.

Good work, Good experimenting.

 monkeytroll wrote:



Initially just for fun, but now I'm thinking that it might fit well with the upright drone/turbined body from the previous post, to form the basis of some sort of daemon prince.

monkeytroll,

So you would sit the torso on the flying drone?

CB

youwas - They are great little things. Currently it's the book, but more might get added

graven - Thanks a lot! As yet I've considered no colours for those arms -the were just testers for the sword and currently I don't know who's going to end up with them. But skinless plaguebearers sound like fun...

Theo - Cheers!

Arakasi - The joints are road wheels from some old 1:72 scale tank kit - no idea which one now.
The picture certainly didn't help Oyster shell would work okay, but that's not what it really looks like... Was meant to be some sort of cross between the contrasting warm/cold corrosion effects that are popular and one of the classic power weapon effects - ended up as a mess.
Yeah, knowing the clear crackle doesn't take colour well is at least useful knowledge - I have a feeling that I did do some mixing with some of the coloured ones from the same range - possibly somewhere in the cyborks thread, might take a dig t see if I did.
I think I had all the familiars - although some have been used elsewhere, still have a few left in he bag though, along wit a couple of other sorcerors and witches - and agree, a race would probably get us nowhere
It is indeed - it's been hanging around waiting to get corrupted by Slaanesh, but it's been so long decay set i and Nurgle claimed it..

Don - The strands were initially formed with bostik glue - I use either that or UHU, but I'm out of UHU - the the get a coat of some heavy gloss medium to help strengthen them - depending on what/where/how/why/when the may then get another touch of glue and medium - this can help shape ligaments within the bit. The other method I have used, but not here, is to use a length of thin plastic rod as the base. These two methods mean you get to start wit somehig that looks tightly stretched - i can be hard work trying to get that look initially with greenstuff or similar.

Doc - cheers, always messing about..err I mean experimenting...

CB - That's the current plan. Quick mock up, very roughly placed obviously:





So, the walking book will be going in front of the sorceror




May also get one behind him as well - just playing around with basing - maybe have the two familiars (or one of them) on separate base, but that connects to the main base - so a piece of flooring, or an i-beam, or something that is present on both bases and fits together. We'll see....




2 more layers to go on the green, 2 or 3 for the red. Still contemplating sword and furs. Eyes will probably not be blue, just put some colour there to fill space - thinking they might be silver or gold.

Demon prince chopper feet is a great start, I like the tentacle hands. They might not be aerodynamic, but when your a prince of darkness the rules of flight don’t apply to you.

I love the book familiar, and having him up in the air just oozes chaos goodness, because who else would have only feet, but not walk the earth?

I love the red, it really works. Good call, well done whoever suggested it

monkeytroll,

Personally I would mount the Daemon to look more like a Necron Destroyer.

Just my opinion.

Cheers,

CB

 monkeytroll wrote:
Don - The strands were initially formed with bostik glue - I use either that or UHU, but I'm out of UHU - the the get a coat of some heavy gloss medium to help strengthen them - depending on what/where/how/why/when the may then get another touch of glue and medium - this can help shape ligaments within the bit. The other method I have used, but not here, is to use a length of thin plastic rod as the base. These two methods mean you get to start wit somehig that looks tightly stretched - i can be hard work trying to get that look initially with greenstuff or similar.

Yes, you can really see the tension on the tendons. I might give it a try - I'm hoping at some point to pick up a Carnosaur and it would be fun to get some strands of saliva in his mouth.




The walking book is wonderful. Happy to see it get joined with the sorcerer. The red also looks grand - it's a very organic looking red which sits very well next to the green robes.