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2017/08/13 22:26:52
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news - All info in OP - Open Day update - Plastic Titans!
schoon wrote: From other discussions this weekend, they have confirmed that Imperator Class will be done (eventually).
That would make me sooo happy. Especially as the Imperator I already have will definitely be out of scale in this new game.
Y'know, part of me has this fantasy in my head that when FW does create the Imperator, I will hack their computers, steal the 3D files of it, increase the size to 40K scale, and just go crazy with a 3D printer. And then bury me with them all, like that terra cotta army.
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2017/08/14 00:14:44
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news - All info in OP - Open Day update - Plastic Titans!
I would love to see an imperator with proper fw detail. It would probably be cerastus knight sized and price, but I would pay it, as long as it comes with the huge damage and power sheet.
Malika2 wrote: I would imagine (non-cynically) that they'd try to do it more accurately? But that would be a logistical nightmare.
Also keep in mind that so far I've only see that tidbit appear in one FB post on the BFG fanpage, all the other info I could find online so far is that Andy Hoare is considering bringing BFG back, no mention of scale.
Aye aye, it's all speculation at this stage obviously, but still - more accurately how? The scale BFG represents is so insanely HUEG that the models were irrelevant and you counted the stem of their flying base as the actual ship for gameplay purposes, and even that was a pretty massive abstraction. They realised when they were doing the original that you can't "accurately" represent whole fleets of 1km+ long voidships on the table, so they ignore the models entirely when designing the rules and then sized the miniatures big enough to look good but small enough you can play with lots on a normal table without it becoming too unwieldy.
As far as I can tell, the original models already found that "sweet spot" - making the smaller is pointless because you can't make them small enough to be "accurate" without making them pretty much invisible, and making them any bigger just limits you to smaller fleets due to space concerns which rather defeats the purpose of a mass fleet warfare game. Changing the scale doesn't provide any actual benefit I can see so a cynical attempt to invalidate existing BFG models and the third-party alternatives that have sprung up over the years GW chose to neglect and ignore the Specialist Games seems like the only logical reason to do it.
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2017/08/14 05:37:51
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news - All info in OP - Open Day update - Plastic Titans!
Something I've found on that Tactical Command forums:
Slightly OT but BFG was commented on: apparently its years off (Tony C) and will be battlefleet heresy, not gothic.
Andy again has said no scale has been decided on for BFG (of BFH rather!) But I think this is a way of shutting the guy up yelling about how GW are screwing over the loyal fans with scale change (yawn!)
They really need to move away from all these sub games being centered around the heresy. A lot of people would play these other games if they could expand their main armies into these other systems. But with everything being good vs bad, but still identical marines it will get old quick.
It smacks of a money grab and not an honest attempt to actually support the products they release for the long haul.
2017/08/14 19:57:03
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news - All info in OP - Open Day update - Plastic Titans!
Well, Epic was originally Adeptus Titanicus and Space Marine. Both games were set during the Horus Heresy and only included Space Marines and Titans. The whole Horus Heresy was made up as an excuse to only have to produce models for a single faction, and look where it has brought us.
Not to my knowledge. Next year for definite, that has been confirmed, but the Q4 thing is news to me.
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whalemusic360 wrote:Well a standard plastic knight is about the size of the shin plate of my warlord. So expect the AT warlord to be ~ knight sized.
In the first post, they've addressed it as the size of the Thanatar, which is similar in height to the Dreadknight for the non-FW familiar.
Even though they've said the scale is 8mm, it appears to be that a marine is 8mm... which should make normal humans about 6mm... kinda makes it actually 6mm scale doesn't it?
Tannhauser42 wrote:
schoon wrote: From other discussions this weekend, they have confirmed that Imperator Class will be done (eventually).
That would make me sooo happy. Especially as the Imperator I already have will definitely be out of scale in this new game.
Y'know, part of me has this fantasy in my head that when FW does create the Imperator, I will hack their computers, steal the 3D files of it, increase the size to 40K scale, and just go crazy with a 3D printer. And then bury me with them all, like that terra cotta army.
I think this would be really interesting to see when they do it. Between all the titan minis in Epic, the Imperator and other biggest titan class minis for other factions... they were all done in a scale separate from the rest. Most aparent when you see the undersized steps and doors at the original Imperators feet. Based on stated sizes of Imperator titans in the scale of this game it should be similar in size to the 40k Porphyron... worth it.
2017/08/15 12:22:32
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news - All info in OP - Open Day update - Plastic Titans!
Aye, the Imperator was tiny in scale when compared to the other titans - that said the titans themselves where never in scale with the rest of the Epic range as they would have been a lot bigger if they had been.
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2017/08/15 12:29:26
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news - All info in OP - Open Day update - Plastic Titans!
Alpharius wrote: I still have a hard time seeing Warlords at 'Knight' size - do we think they'll be that big?
I still don't...
(And yes, I'm wrong at least as much as I'm right!)
I hadn't heard that rumor yet. That is a bit larger than I would prefer, but if they go up in scale the detail will be much nicer and we can see some pretty nice looking armies.
My hope is that they have plastic terrain kits out of the gate, too. I would hate to be stuck with cardboard cutouts for these potentially very expensive armies.
Alpharius wrote: I still have a hard time seeing Warlords at 'Knight' size - do we think they'll be that big?
I still don't...
(And yes, I'm wrong at least as much as I'm right!)
I hadn't heard that rumor yet. That is a bit larger than I would prefer, but if they go up in scale the detail will be much nicer and we can see some pretty nice looking armies.
My hope is that they have plastic terrain kits out of the gate, too. I would hate to be stuck with cardboard cutouts for these potentially very expensive armies.
At 8mm that would be extremely oversized and more around 25mm. an 8mm imperator titan would stand a bit over 5 inches and a warlord around 4.
It's about 22 space marines tall or 18 stories of a building. Titans tend to be very poorly scaled in terms of battlefield terrain. I don't see many people using 8mm buildings that are 15-20 stories tall.
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2017/08/15 20:11:24
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news - All info in OP - Open Day update - Plastic Titans!
Alpharius wrote: I still have a hard time seeing Warlords at 'Knight' size - do we think they'll be that big?
I still don't...
(And yes, I'm wrong at least as much as I'm right!)
I hadn't heard that rumor yet. That is a bit larger than I would prefer, but if they go up in scale the detail will be much nicer and we can see some pretty nice looking armies.
My hope is that they have plastic terrain kits out of the gate, too. I would hate to be stuck with cardboard cutouts for these potentially very expensive armies.
At 8mm that would be extremely oversized and more around 25mm. an 8mm imperator titan would stand a bit over 5 inches and a warlord around 4.
It's about 22 space marines tall or 18 stories of a building. Titans tend to be very poorly scaled in terms of battlefield terrain. I don't see many people using 8mm buildings that are 15-20 stories tall.
Sounds more reasonable and doable.
I hope that's more in line with where we end up!
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2017/08/17 16:46:05
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news - All info in OP - Open Day update - Plastic Titans!
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