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Wouldn't mind copying the design of the stronghold to be honest. Make a nice ork version. Wonder how long it could stretch? Enough to go from edge to edge on the new 44" table length perhaps? Make an awesome Chokepoint scenario for a game.

One thing I noticed that is very good about this new kit: Inside corners!!!

Oh if only the Imperial Bastion kit could do that...

 insaniak wrote:
That is pretty much how they've pictured it.

But that's how they show off all their kits - in a white void of nothing.

This is a nonsense complaint.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
But that's how they show off all their kits - in a white void of nothing.

Sure. And the end result of that is a picture of a 'stronghold' with no back wall. Which I found amusing, hence the obviously tongue-in-cheek 'complaint'.

What a terrible way to design a hideout! They forgot to put in the floor! What are they standing on? Clouds?

And what's with everybody standing on a little round pedestal? It'll just make them taller targets for snipers!

Don't even get me started on that watchtower. It's not OSHA compliant! Handrails need to go around the entire perimeter with no gaps large enough for a person to slip through. Someone could just fall right off. Handrails save lives.

 insaniak wrote:
...they could have pictured two kits together,...So yes, that's my complaint. It's not a particularly big issue, just something that I found amusing from the pics.

That would have provoked true howls of despair among many of us. Advertising a single kit with of a pic of 1.5 kits. That would have been heart breaking.

Could be worse, they could be showing it with other stuff, terrain, boards and other fittings and have people complain. "Why doesn't it come with everything on the picture!" "Well Frank's thumb can be seen in the corner, even that?" "ESPECIALLY FRANKS THUMB!"

 Sqorgar wrote:

Don't even get me started on that watchtower. It's not OSHA compliant! Handrails need to go around the entire perimeter with no gaps large enough for a person to slip through. Someone could just fall right off. Handrails save lives.

But that's one of the best things with Necromunda, shooting Goliaths off walkways! BAM, *slip*, "Aaaaah", SPLAT!

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 Sqorgar wrote:
It's just... I mean, terrain we got. How about GW do something about the ForgeWorld-only weapons and dramatis personae?

Such as? It looks they're all in stock and available on the FW site, though I don't recall the exact number of head or weapon packs for each gang.

I think it's more that they're "Forge World only" that's the problem.

Yeah, still not seeing it, Kan.

Necromunda is, in and of itself, a Direct Only item for GW.

Adding in another hoop for people to jump through(and one with fairly hefty shipping fees to boot!) isn't great.

I'm not going to argue that FW's shipping fees aren't too high, but I'd dispute that having to place an order on a second website is a significant second hoop if you're already having to order online in the first place. Wouldn't hurt FW to list the plastic kits on their site too, though.

cody.d. wrote:
Wouldn't mind copying the design of the stronghold to be honest. Make a nice ork version. Wonder how long it could stretch? Enough to go from edge to edge on the new 44" table length perhaps? Make an awesome Chokepoint scenario for a game.

I doubt it'll do 44" in length - two might, but even then I doubt it.

I think you could stretch out a single kit to around 2' looking at that main pic with the models for scale (main wall seems over 12").

You can be sure we will be shown eyewatering plastic orgies of terrain made from combining several sector mechanicus, zone mortalis and gang stringhold kits on White Dwarf soon enough.

Its a nice addition to the terrain range. The lack of aquilas and skulls is always a big flocking plus in my book!

Will be very interesting to see how this mixes with the existing buildings. Maybe one could kitbash all sorts of "construction site" imagery by mixing this with some building kits, craters and a few munitorum containers..

At the very least, adding some converted containers for living quarters seems like a no brainer.

I’d be tempted to use a container as the gate. A nice, long kill box?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’d be tempted to use a container as the gate. A nice, long kill box?

Thought it looked a bit bland at first, but that's actually a strength of course - far easier to add some Gang-specific bling than to painstakingly get rid of it! Certainly a very flexible kit.

Not sure about some functional aspects of it though. Too many far too large holes in the wall - those aren't firing ports, they're massive invitations for enemy grenades and enemy gangers. Adding gameplay options by having them count as escape routes may have sounded fun, but perhaps you wouldn't have to escape if you could only have prevented the enemy from entering through those same 5 massive holes in the perimeter... Lack of armour plating along the walkways or barrier over the gate don't look optimal either. Even if it's repurposed from some previous function, things like the holes don't make any sense, nor does the lack of trying to optimise it for its current function. Looks about as secure as skinnydipping in the Sump.

Agreed, the firing ports look terrible, would be much better as actual small firing ports (which there are on the other sections) and just skip the stupid crawl rules.

Nothing to hide behind on the walkway and tower is also insanely stupid. Good luck to any sentry in that tower.

Could the rules be interpreted to grant full cover behind Firing Ports regardless of actual LOS? Attackers having the opportunity to crawl through may not be a big weakness. It's a double action, they have to start activation within one side and end on the other. That's a very vulnerable position to be in. Of course, if the attacker has to get in, it is a possibility, but not a very safe one.

Cool piece, very reminescent of movie post-apoc forts. Of course in normal GW fashion you really need 2 to make it look right, and it will cost as much as a SC! at minimum, so that's 120£ out of every terrain addict for practically no effort.

I'm thinking it should be okay on a ZM tile.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Cool piece, very reminescent of movie post-apoc forts. Of course in normal GW fashion you really need 2 to make it look right, and it will cost as much as a SC! at minimum, so that's 120£ out of every terrain addict for practically no effort.

We are talking about Necromunda here, so one can assume most of us are terrain addicts to a varying degree

Baxx wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Cool piece, very reminescent of movie post-apoc forts. Of course in normal GW fashion you really need 2 to make it look right, and it will cost as much as a SC! at minimum, so that's 120£ out of every terrain addict for practically no effort.

We are talking about Necromunda here, so one can assume most of us are terrain addicts to a varying degree

My pile of shame (potential?). I know my 'problem' might not be as bad as some, but I've come to the conclusion that I can skip most of the new stuff. Except maybe that Stronghold, might get that

 lord_blackfang wrote:
...so that's 120£ out of every terrain addict for practically no effort.

Being a terrain addict means we don't mind.

I don't even think I realized I was a terrain addict until you said this. I mean, I have two copies of Dark Uprising (second was bought at a significant discount, but still). Who does that?

 Sqorgar wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
...so that's 120£ out of every terrain addict for practically no effort.

Being a terrain addict means we don't mind.

I don't even think I realized I was a terrain addict until you said this. I mean, I have two copies of Dark Uprising (second was bought at a significant discount, but still). Who does that?

The people that jumped onto it before ZM was released would be my guess.

The firing ports are pretty aweful for purpose, but they should would look great for bars built into other terrain, just add a small counter piece, a few miniature bottles and glasses.....

JWBS wrote:
My pile of shame (potential?). I know my 'problem' might not be as bad as some, but I've come to the conclusion that I can skip most of the new stuff. Except maybe that Stronghold, might get that

"For you, this box is nothing but a reminder of the shame you feel for not having completed the project. For me, that's just small box of unbuilt terrain." - HBM. Bison

 Sqorgar wrote:
I don't even think I realized I was a terrain addict until you said this. I mean, I have two copies of Dark Uprising (second was bought at a significant discount, but still). Who does that?

I don't own Dark Uprising, but if I did, I'd own two.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Sqorgar wrote:
I don't even think I realized I was a terrain addict until you said this. I mean, I have two copies of Dark Uprising (second was bought at a significant discount, but still). Who does that?

I don't own Dark Uprising, but if I did, I'd own two.

You should give it (or ZM) a go if you actually have the space at this point. I initially only bought it to add some variation but after handling the sprues they're now my favourite.

I own 144 original Necromunda bulkheads, 2 of every Kill Zone, €500 of Mantic bulkheads, €500 of Makitainers... just to give an idea of my credentials.

I did not buy Dark Uprising, it was so expensive I bought a 3d printer instead.

Printed 15 kg of terrain so far.

I’ve a similar pile of shame.

Given I’m now setup with a home office, the home board has been sacrificed. Upside is I can now attend my local club, so will be donating the terrain to them.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I own 144 original Necromunda bulkheads, 2 of every Kill Zone, €500 of Mantic bulkheads, €500 of Makitainers... just to give an idea of my credentials.

I did not buy Dark Uprising, it was so expensive I bought a 3d printer instead.

Printed 15 kg of terrain so far.

Great credentials, but when faced with DU's stunning price, one needs to get creative. I ended up paying less than US $80 for the DU Zone Mortalis terrain after buying the set at discount and selling off the two gangs and the rules to 3 different people.

Has anyone seen the Ogryn gang sets out yet?

The release on this stuff is all over the map. They are not on schedule anymore- is a updated release schedule out yet?

They weren't on a schedule, as far as I can remember.

They were just "later this year".