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 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

Martel732 wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Here me out.

Reanimation protocol rolls are on a 6+, but morale no longer means perma death. If the unit is destroyed, place a marker where the last model was, next turn you roll RP rolls for the unit. When setting the unit back up, models must be placed within coherency of at least 2 other models from that unit, even if they too have come back this turn. And let them res within 1" of enemy units as well

Leave it on 5+, and if a unit is destroyed, reanimations can join a unit within 6" or 12" anyway.

That would be cool

This makes it easier for the common units to reanimate after destruction, but harder for rarer units.

Martel732 wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

Martel732 wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Here me out.

Reanimation protocol rolls are on a 6+, but morale no longer means perma death. If the unit is destroyed, place a marker where the last model was, next turn you roll RP rolls for the unit. When setting the unit back up, models must be placed within coherency of at least 2 other models from that unit, even if they too have come back this turn. And let them res within 1" of enemy units as well

Leave it on 5+, and if a unit is destroyed, reanimations can join a unit within 6" or 12" anyway.

That would be cool

This makes it easier for the common units to reanimate after destruction, but harder for rarer units.

True, but still a net improvement. Id also imagine a unit wouldnt be able to increase above starting size

No, I'd let them. Why not?

Martel732 wrote:
No, I'd let them. Why not?

Because then youd have potential situations not unsimilar to 90 man poxwalker unit. If you pat reinforcement points sure.

Wasnt there an old Apoc detachment that had a 150 man warrior phalanx?

Nah, statistically that won't happen. They can't gain necrons from killing the enemy.

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

Martel732 wrote:
No, I'd let them. Why not?

Because then youd have potential situations not unsimilar to 90 man poxwalker unit. If you pat reinforcement points sure.

It's not entirely dissimilar to Mob Up, really. Not much point in paying reinforcements for that, it's not a "new" unit

Good points, hopefully we see something similar.

I personally think its a reasonable change

I'd play against it. I don't know if others would, but I try to suggest things that are appropriately powered.

We might see Pariah previewed for next weeks preorder

Fingers crossed for new models

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
We might see Pariah previewed for next weeks preorder.

From the Sunday Preview on Warhammer Community:

We’ll be having a peek at some of the new rules inside Pariah, as well as continuing our Faction Focus articles exploring how everyone is going to fare in the new edition of Warhammer 40,000. There will also be a look at (or should that be a listen to) the soundtrack to Angels of Death, the forthcoming animated series. We have another exciting week planned on Warhammer TV for you too.

Also in that article, they mentioned that illuminor szeras has an ability to boost warriors

punisher357 wrote:
Also in that article, they mentioned that illuminor szeras has an ability to boost warriors

Wow, new szeras gets an ability which the old one already has,

 Ghaz wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
We might see Pariah previewed for next weeks preorder.

From the Sunday Preview on Warhammer Community:

We’ll be having a peek at some of the new rules inside Pariah, as well as continuing our Faction Focus articles exploring how everyone is going to fare in the new edition of Warhammer 40,000. There will also be a look at (or should that be a listen to) the soundtrack to Angels of Death, the forthcoming animated series. We have another exciting week planned on Warhammer TV for you too.

Sweet, im right for once.

Although they dont even mention what Necrons get besides szeras, so im skeptical as to what we get

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
We might see Pariah previewed for next weeks preorder.

From the Sunday Preview on Warhammer Community:

We’ll be having a peek at some of the new rules inside Pariah, as well as continuing our Faction Focus articles exploring how everyone is going to fare in the new edition of Warhammer 40,000. There will also be a look at (or should that be a listen to) the soundtrack to Angels of Death, the forthcoming animated series. We have another exciting week planned on Warhammer TV for you too.

Sweet, im right for once.

Although they dont even mention what Necrons get besides szeras, so im skeptical as to what we get

If they gave away the new rules in the Sunday Preview there wouldn't be a point to doing a sneak peek later in the week.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
We might see Pariah previewed for next weeks preorder.

From the Sunday Preview on Warhammer Community:

We’ll be having a peek at some of the new rules inside Pariah, as well as continuing our Faction Focus articles exploring how everyone is going to fare in the new edition of Warhammer 40,000. There will also be a look at (or should that be a listen to) the soundtrack to Angels of Death, the forthcoming animated series. We have another exciting week planned on Warhammer TV for you too.

Sweet, im right for once.

Although they dont even mention what Necrons get besides szeras, so im skeptical as to what we get

If they gave away the new rules in the Sunday Preview there wouldn't be a point to doing a sneak peek later in the week.

My bad, not what I meant, they didn't even say if we were getting strats/relics/etc like they do with every other preview.

My though is there are no strats/relics/etc for Necrons in Pariah, because they wouldn't overlook stating that if there are. Therefore, the most logical conclusion is Codex Necrons is not far away. No point in putting out additional rules in the PA that are immediately (less than 2 months) folded into a new codex.

I thought it was made clear that PA book sremain in circulation and that none of that stuff is getting Codex'd

Or am I hearing things again?

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Here me out.

Reanimation protocol rolls are on a 6+, but morale no longer means perma death. If the unit is destroyed, place a marker where the last model was, next turn you roll RP rolls for the unit. When setting the unit back up, models must be placed within coherency of at least 2 other models from that unit, even if they too have come back this turn. And let them res within 1" of enemy units as well

How you fix them either not giving any vp's for being killed seeing units would be essentially impossible to keep down or on same result bleed vp's like there's no end to it?


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 alextroy wrote:
My though is there are no strats/relics/etc for Necrons in Pariah, because they wouldn't overlook stating that if there are. Therefore, the most logical conclusion is Codex Necrons is not far away. No point in putting out additional rules in the PA that are immediately (less than 2 months) folded into a new codex.

Or they keep PA around and not have everything transfered. They have stated not all from PA's goes to new codexes anyway. No doubt leaving best parts to PA so competive players need to buy both anyway


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 IHateNids wrote:
I thought it was made clear that PA book sremain in circulation and that none of that stuff is getting Codex'd

Or am I hearing things again?

They said some stuff would be put to to codex. "best of" style. Of course GW being GW will likely leave the real best stuff to PA. From orks the stompa mob thing goes to codex but SSAG relic is left to PA

 IHateNids wrote:
I thought it was made clear that PA book sremain in circulation and that none of that stuff is getting Codex'd

Or am I hearing things again?

I strongly suspect what they really mean is nothing in PA is technically invalidated going into 9th. So all your rules still work, maybe with a few tweaks here and there. I wouldn't be surprised to see the 9th edition Codices completely replace the PA books. I'd bet quite a lot of money that the Necron Codex will contain the new Szeras rules, for example. If they really do try to go with this idea of both the new Codex and the PA books being valid at the same time I can see that causing problems.

 IHateNids wrote:
I thought it was made clear that PA book sremain in circulation and that none of that stuff is getting Codex'd

Or am I hearing things again?

Thats true, until a new codex comes. Its almost impossible that pariah will not have new rules for necrons.

 p5freak wrote:

 IHateNids wrote:
I thought it was made clear that PA book sremain in circulation and that none of that stuff is getting Codex'd

Or am I hearing things again?

Thats true, until a new codex comes. Its almost impossible that pariah will not have new rules for necrons.

Agreed.

Does anyone else think lord's are going to be replaced by royal wardens?

On a separate note, I think it's getting pretty annoying with how long GW are dragging on the previews.

tneva82 wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Here me out.

Reanimation protocol rolls are on a 6+, but morale no longer means perma death. If the unit is destroyed, place a marker where the last model was, next turn you roll RP rolls for the unit. When setting the unit back up, models must be placed within coherency of at least 2 other models from that unit, even if they too have come back this turn. And let them res within 1" of enemy units as well

How you fix them either not giving any vp's for being killed seeing units would be essentially impossible to keep down or on same result bleed vp's like there's no end to it?

They only give up a VP for being killed the first time the unit is wiped

No rules for Necrons in Pariah, besides Illuminor Szeras.

 Sasori wrote:
No rules for Necrons in Pariah, besides Illuminor Szeras.

I should've kept my mouth shut when I said we couldn't get anything worse than the Dark Eldar

This is really disappointing, even if we are the first codex on the slab this is a major let down

I'm pretty Okay with this. Saves me 40$ and I can just work on getting everything ready for 9th. Not like I was going to get many games in before the codex anyway.

Would have preferred that we got a sneak peak at the stuff they are doing to fix Necrons though.

And to be kind of fair to GW, I think it was lose/lose/ They print rules in this that get invalidated with the dex, people are mad. They don't print rules, people are mad.

 Sasori wrote:
I'm pretty Okay with this. Saves me 40$ and I can just work on getting everything ready for 9th. Not like I was going to get many games in before the codex anyway.

Would have preferred that we got a sneak peak at the stuff they are doing to fix Necrons though.

Yep, same here. And tomorrow's stream will be on Inquisition rules, so we can skip that too.

 Sasori wrote:
I'm pretty Okay with this. Saves me 40$ and I can just work on getting everything ready for 9th. Not like I was going to get many games in before the codex anyway.

Would have preferred that we got a sneak peak at the stuff they are doing to fix Necrons though.

And to be kind of fair to GW, I think it was lose/lose/ They print rules in this that get invalidated with the dex, people are mad. They don't print rules, people are mad.

I see your point there, and now that I've thought about it. If necrons are getting a big rework rules wise, anything they might have made for 8th might just get invalidated for 9th.

In which case it was an L GW had to take, but one that'll be better than "I paid 40 for rules that don't even work anymore"

tneva82 wrote:

 alextroy wrote:
My though is there are no strats/relics/etc for Necrons in Pariah, because they wouldn't overlook stating that if there are. Therefore, the most logical conclusion is Codex Necrons is not far away. No point in putting out additional rules in the PA that are immediately (less than 2 months) folded into a new codex.

Or they keep PA around and not have everything transfered. They have stated not all from PA's goes to new codexes anyway. No doubt leaving best parts to PA so competive players need to buy both anyway

Stu Black pretty much said the same thing I did in the stream. No point putting rules in the PA when the new Codex is coming out really soon. Rejoice Necron players. If you don't want the rules for playing on an Necron Tomb world and the background for the Pariah Nexus, you can wait for the Codex to come out.

 p5freak wrote:

punisher357 wrote:
Also in that article, they mentioned that illuminor szeras has an ability to boost warriors

Wow, new szeras gets an ability which the old one already has,

So you know for a fact that it's the same ability? Didn't think so.


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The community website has a pic of Pariah's table of contents up.

I didn't really follow the other Psychic Awakening book reveals. Should we be concerned that the only thing Necron in the table of contents is Illuminor Szeras?

punisher357 wrote:

 p5freak wrote:

punisher357 wrote:
Also in that article, they mentioned that illuminor szeras has an ability to boost warriors

Wow, new szeras gets an ability which the old one already has,

So you know for a fact that it's the same ability? Didn't think so.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
The community website has a pic of Pariah's table of contents up.

I didn't really follow the other Psychic Awakening book reveals. Should we be concerned that the only thing Necron in the table of contents is Illuminor Szeras?

Necrons arent getting anything aside from Szeras