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 Albertorius wrote:
 CMLR wrote:

In any case, dragons could flight if they generated enough methane, or other gas lighterthan air, to help it take flight.


See Flight of Dragons (1986) for a practical example of that.


Or Guards Guards by Terry Pratchett for a discussion of both practical and magical dragon physiology.
   
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 Irbis wrote:
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Know AoS you won't get horses but some weird equine creature with like 8 legs.

Yup, no horses in AoS. None. Nada. Zip.

Spoiler:




Oh wait...


Not to mention the Hedonites of SLAANESH were just released with a repacking of the fiends (have breasts)
Normal human models (Gangs) in Warcry, which are humans and have AOS Rules. Cursed city had human witch hunters.

Just no recent Skaven releases....They at least have a full range available.

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 Irbis wrote:
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Know AoS you won't get horses but some weird equine creature with like 8 legs.

Yup, no horses in AoS. None. Nada. Zip.

Spoiler:




Oh wait...


If we're counting dead horses, then arguably these too
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Games Workshop are not your friends. They are not a small dev trying their best. They are a multibillion dollar company making calculated decisions about how many costs they can cut, how lazy they can be about relases, and how much they can paywall. They will do it again. Stop giving them money for this. 
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
Varanguard come on 75x42mm bases.
Dracoths are on 90x52mm bases.

There's a 175x105mm(used by the Mortek Crawler) and a 120x92mm(Mortarchs, for example, have this one) base.

I'm thinking that the 120x92mm base is the one this will get.


By the look of the pic, there is no way that it is 120 mm.
   
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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 Gir Spirit Bane wrote:
I dont get the SCE model release hate. Flagship model line and they get one major release each edition.


That's the reason. Ttheir bloated range gets bloated even further, and other armies that actually desperately need more units and new models languish in abandonment. I don't see how you would not hate the new Stormcast relase as a player of literally any other faction.
Do you know how many players who start with SCE that I've seen go on to get other armies? All of them. I see new SCE and I see new players, they drive popularity. Better still SCE has a lot of build diversity such that playing against one player with them is often very different than playing against another. For me, more Stormcast directly equates to a bigger AoS community. Any resentment I may have is completely overpowered by that.


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SamusDrake wrote:
When it comes to Age of Sigmar, the "jealousy" is far less warranted than with 40K.

While there are indeed some factions that need an immediate overhaul, GW has been refreshing their fantasy range with lighting speed and with the correct priority.

For example, last edition saw an impressive overhaul of the Death alliance; Nighthaunts, Bonereapers and Soulblights - all in one edition. And that's not even including Lumineth, Slaanesh and Sons of Behemat.

3rd edition opens with a brand new destruction faction, answering the prayers of those who hoped it was a hobogoblin race.

While Cities of Sigmar is definitely up for new models, it was not forgotten and appreciated when it recieved a new battle tome and some bundles. Also, there is hope as The Old World draws nearer and, square bases aside, I'm sure some of that game's models will find their way into Age of Sigmar.

Also, Age of Sigmar has seen even more new models with both Warcry and Underworlds.

Yes, the Stormcasts are already well catered for but its not been at the expense of the rest of the game. 40K on the other hand is a bloody embarrassment, showing such an expense.
Well said!

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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 Irbis wrote:
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Know AoS you won't get horses but some weird equine creature with like 8 legs.

Yup, no horses in AoS. None. Nada. Zip.

Spoiler:




Oh wait...


If we're counting dead horses, then arguably these too


well now you're just beating a dead horse

Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two 
   
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You sir get an exalt for that one!

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Kinda interesting that there are more models of dead horses than live horses.
   
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Either/Or wrote:
Kinda interesting that there are more models of dead horses than live horses.


yeah living horse wise, if you ignore chaos (who are supposed to be demonic mounts) you have what... 3 models with horses? one for LRL and then outriders and pistolers in COS?

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There are more living kangaroo mount minis then undead kangaroo mount minis.

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 CMLR wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Varanguard come on 75x42mm bases.
Dracoths are on 90x52mm bases.

There's a 175x105mm(used by the Mortek Crawler) and a 120x92mm(Mortarchs, for example, have this one) base.

I'm thinking that the 120x92mm base is the one this will get.


By the look of the pic, there is no way that it is 120 mm.


I agree, it doesn't look like 120mm oval. 120mm oval is different shape than other ovals. My guess is 105mm oval, the same as Belisarius Cawl, Ironstriders, Horticulus Stimux and mounted Orruk boss from Dominion.

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 Gir Spirit Bane wrote:
I dont get the SCE model release hate. Flagship model line and they get one major release each edition.


That's the reason. Ttheir bloated range gets bloated even further, and other armies that actually desperately need more units and new models languish in abandonment. I don't see how you would not hate the new Stormcast relase as a player of literally any other faction.
Do you know how many players who start with SCE that I've seen go on to get other armies? All of them. I see new SCE and I see new players, they drive popularity. Better still SCE has a lot of build diversity such that playing against one player with them is often very different than playing against another. For me, more Stormcast directly equates to a bigger AoS community. Any resentment I may have is completely overpowered by that.


I’m going the opposite direction. I originally did Lizardmen way back in the day, but ended up selling those during a Fantasy drought. When Sylvaneth came out with Kurnoth and Revenants and such I went all in on those. I’ve got a few units of Stormcast I got for a special alliance Warscroll from their first book. Dabbled with some Ironjawz, but I’m pretty shallow on those. Had done a splitsies on Dominion to get the Orruk half, but regretted it because I just don’t dig the Kruleboyz aesthetic, and have a trade lined up to offload those for the Stormcast half instead. More allies for the trees.

 
   
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Actually I did the inverse I started with other armies and did not like SCE looks... well that really changed when I got to see them in the flesh. I think GW paint jobs as gold boys is awful and these are actually awesome minis with so much converting potential.

   
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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 Gir Spirit Bane wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 Gir Spirit Bane wrote:
I dont get the SCE model release hate. Flagship model line and they get one major release each edition.


That's the reason. Ttheir bloated range gets bloated even further, and other armies that actually desperately need more units and new models languish in abandonment. I don't see how you would not hate the new Stormcast relase as a player of literally any other faction.


Because its possible to be sad/annoyed at my army isn't getting more models without directing that hatred to the army which IS getting new models. Yes SCE and SM get the lions share of model releases (SCE arguably less so since its one big wave at the start of edition then other armies from then on, vs Marines constant updates) but the level of hatred or bitterness directed at them is a bit over the top for plastic models.

Im not unsympathetic at all, I have several armies that haven't seen a new release in... Well a VERY long time (finecast,fuuuuu-) but I dont use that as resentment to gak over new releases for the flagship. No new SCE doesn't mean GW would of updated the models you wanted either.


If most armies aren't getting updated, i don't see anything better to get mad at than the reason they're not getting updated - that being, another Stormcast relase.


Stormcast is hardly reason.surely you don't clam there's been no aos releases in 3 years?

Funny how some people keep trying to make it sound like stormcast are getting new releases all the time but they are not. It's been 3 years. New models been released in meanwhile. New factions been introduced. Old factios got new models.

But some people don't care about facts.

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 NAVARRO wrote:
Actually I did the inverse I started with other armies and did not like SCE looks... well that really changed when I got to see them in the flesh. I think GW paint jobs as gold boys is awful and these are actually awesome minis with so much converting potential.


For me gold isn't the problem. I think Sigmarines look great if the gold is done right. For me it's just the 'Eavy Metal style they're painted in that doesn't work.

I prefer red over blue as the complementary color, too.

I like Sigmarines just fine since I like heavily armored warriors, but the most important part and real appeal to me is that they're a genuine AoS army. Armies unique to the setting suit me a lot better than those imported from the old setting. No baggage and all that.

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 Geifer wrote:
 NAVARRO wrote:
Actually I did the inverse I started with other armies and did not like SCE looks... well that really changed when I got to see them in the flesh. I think GW paint jobs as gold boys is awful and these are actually awesome minis with so much converting potential.


For me gold isn't the problem. I think Sigmarines look great if the gold is done right. For me it's just the 'Eavy Metal style they're painted in that doesn't work.

I prefer red over blue as the complementary color, too.

I like Sigmarines just fine since I like heavily armored warriors, but the most important part and real appeal to me is that they're a genuine AoS army. Armies unique to the setting suit me a lot better than those imported from the old setting. No baggage and all that.


Recently on insta theres been some really nice NMM gold SCE and it was top class. But yes studio paint jobs are a bit lacking.
A good thing that shows how versatile these minis are is that it only takes a colour change to transform the feel and look of SCE completely.
You could say that its applicable to all minis, but not quite, some kits/sculpts are less open to this transformation.
You can have some really unsaturated dark, chaotic or bright and saturated options making them quite appealing and different.
Even for people less fantasy inclined a head swap and some tweaks and you have a Knight in armour.

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Sigmarines, particularly the new ones, if you paint them in regular armour colours and do a headswap to a more traditional helmet can look good, even i gotta admit it.

Games Workshop are not your friends. They are not a small dev trying their best. They are a multibillion dollar company making calculated decisions about how many costs they can cut, how lazy they can be about relases, and how much they can paywall. They will do it again. Stop giving them money for this. 
   
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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Sigmarines, particularly the new ones, if you paint them in regular armour colours and do a headswap to a more traditional helmet can look good, even i gotta admit it.


The Stormcast heads were what ruined them for me the most. Yes the first guys had terrible proportions, but when you saw one with the helmet off there is no way that the head would fit inside any of the helmets. I have started printing off Sallet helms that I found on Cults3d.com and they make a world of difference even with my terrible paint jobs.
Spoiler:

I liked the idea of headswaps, but most people were putting squared off helmets from the bretonnian range onto the very curved armor of the SCE, and that just bothered me like the old dreadnoughts that were squared washing machines with curved/rounded off legs. Curves and squares do not go together

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 Theophony wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Sigmarines, particularly the new ones, if you paint them in regular armour colours and do a headswap to a more traditional helmet can look good, even i gotta admit it.


The Stormcast heads were what ruined them for me the most. Yes the first guys had terrible proportions, but when you saw one with the helmet off there is no way that the head would fit inside any of the helmets. I have started printing off Sallet helms that I found on Cults3d.com and they make a world of difference even with my terrible paint jobs.
Spoiler:

I liked the idea of headswaps, but most people were putting squared off helmets from the bretonnian range onto the very curved armor of the SCE, and that just bothered me like the old dreadnoughts that were squared washing machines with curved/rounded off legs. Curves and squares do not go together


I’m looking at possibly doing different heads as well. Eyeing these at the moment but I’m hesitant to order from overseas given the state of US customs right now.

Spoiler:

 
   
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Right behind you.

There's a very real chance that we'll see sets of heads/shoulders from GW this time around. Previously they just did shields and a few other goodies like that, but apparently those Chapter upgrade sets for Marines have been selling like hotcakes.
   
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Seeing a Stormcast upgrade sprue with alternative helmets would be welcome.

Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.

 
   
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Right behind you.

I doubt we'd see helmets for the most part, but bare heads would likely be the order of the day.

Anvils of the Heldenhammers are the only one I know of with unique helmets, and even then it's sometimes described as a paint job rather than a physical modification to turn the deathmask-esque look into a skull.
   
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 NAVARRO wrote:
Actually I did the inverse I started with other armies and did not like SCE looks... well that really changed when I got to see them in the flesh. I think GW paint jobs as gold boys is awful and these are actually awesome minis with so much converting potential.


I'm with you there- I initially really disliked SCE in the default gold scheme, but I've seen them converted with medieval-style helms and painted in silver metallics with mixed-color heraldry (a la Bretonnians) and it's really growing on me.

Random example I pulled off Google:


   
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Hm, to each their own.

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Stormcast with real helmets look better than the shrinkwrapped masks, but stormcast with bretonnia style bucket helmets are more of a sidegrade than upgrade to me. You swap one goofy for another.

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Right behind you.

I'm in the process of trimming the 'halo' from my Stormcast, making it look like a grotesque or a death mask rather than just a helmet or whatnot.

It can and does make a rather significant difference if done properly. But holy crap is it time consuming.
   
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yeah I've got my dominion box waiting for me to work on it and I'm considering going completely helmetless (apparently just about any space marine sized head will work on these guys?) or finding some conversion helmets.

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I guess I’m alone in really liking the Stormcast helmets.
   
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No, I really like the death masks too. They're very distinctive. The knightly style helms in the pic above look REALLY out of place on the liberator bodies.
   
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The bandanas don’t look too bad, but that giant feather just looks like a chef’s hat.

 
   
 
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