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2017/03/08 13:31:07
Subject: [2000] - Flesh-Eater Courts - Elite-style army (no Ghoul Patrol)
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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Here's a list I've been mulling about that's different than the typical "take ghoul patrol, spam a ton of ghouls and drown the enemy in dice" approach. I haven't tested this yet as I need to buy another Start Collecting! box, but here is the list:
Allegiance: Death
Leaders
Abhorrant Ghoul King on Terrorgheist (400)
Abhorrant Ghoul King on Zombie Dragon (400)
- General
- Trait: Red Fury
- Artefact: Cloak of Mists and Shadows
Abhorrant Ghoul King (100)
Varghulf Courtier (160)
Battleline
10 x Crypt Ghouls (100)
10 x Crypt Ghouls (100)
10 x Crypt Ghouls (100)
9 x Crypt Horrors (420)
- Flesh Eater Courts Battleline (Crypt Haunter Courtier General)
Summoning Pool (160)
Units
Total: 1940/2000
The basic idea is to screen with the ghouls and allow the two kings on beasts to do work (I'm guessing they will be priority targets so I'm going for pure melee offense, hence taking Red Fury and the Cloak on the Zombie Dragon lord to maximize his offensive hitting power). The summoning pool is to summon a unit of 3 Flayers, preferably around when the Zombie Dragon swoops in to provide some sort of output for Rend/Mortal Wounds. The large block of Horrors and the Varghulf, potentially backed by the king on foot's spell (and if still alive the other kings) are the "hammer".
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2017/03/08 15:32:03
Subject: [2000] - Flesh-Eater Courts - Elite-style army (no Ghoul Patrol)
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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I've been tempted by the double Behemoth with huge unit of elite dudes too. So I'm sold even if I like the Flayers over the Horrors (though I now have 9 of each).
One thing is would you be able to summon the Flayers if your General is the GK on Zombie Dragon instead of the Terrorgeist one? I didn't think we could summon them normally via spells and could only get them thru the ability.
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2017/03/08 15:42:00
Subject: [2000] - Flesh-Eater Courts - Elite-style army (no Ghoul Patrol)
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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Hulksmash wrote:I've been tempted by the double Behemoth with huge unit of elite dudes too. So I'm sold even if I like the Flayers over the Horrors (though I now have 9 of each). One thing is would you be able to summon the Flayers if your General is the GK on Zombie Dragon instead of the Terrorgeist one? I didn't think we could summon them normally via spells and could only get them thru the ability. I think you might be right. Seems like I forgot about that since I so rarely use summoning So I will have to rework the general strategy then; have to make GKoTG the general, which means probable Ruler of the Night. Although can still likely use it offensively, just can't abuse Red Fury.
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- Wayne
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2017/03/08 16:42:29
Subject: [2000] - Flesh-Eater Courts - Elite-style army (no Ghoul Patrol)
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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I still like it. I'd probably turn it into a Flayer list because I like flayers but it looks super fun!
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2017/03/08 17:18:04
Subject: [2000] - Flesh-Eater Courts - Elite-style army (no Ghoul Patrol)
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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If you are already running three units of ghouls then ghoul patrol will cost barely anything to give all three units outflank capability and make them recover 1d6 models each turn. There's really no good reason for a FEC player not to take it, and even for generic death armies I recommend it for filling battleline.
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2017/03/08 17:24:35
Subject: [2000] - Flesh-Eater Courts - Elite-style army (no Ghoul Patrol)
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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180pts is a reason not to run it. It's the additional Ghast if you're not already taking one that tends to hurt. Additionally why would you recommend the ghoul patrol as a baseline take for Death? You're paying 100pts for an ability that skeletons get for free and they are cheaper. If you're not running a themed list skellies are a superior battline choice for filler (d6 models back, better save, etc) while being only a little worse in actual combat. You have to get back 10 lost ghouls to make the formation worth it. And that's without adding the cost for the ghast.
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2017/03/08 17:25:32
Subject: [2000] - Flesh-Eater Courts - Elite-style army (no Ghoul Patrol)
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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I honestly haven't found the outflank to be that useful. Thus far the 3 games I've used it, my opponent had enough guys by the board edges that it really crippled how I could deploy since it was within 9", I ended up having to stay on the very edge of the board. Also I only have 3 Flayers and more horrors so.. I like Horrors but Flayers in general seem a lot more useful due to rend and mortal wounds.
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2017/03/08 17:40:43
Subject: [2000] - Flesh-Eater Courts - Elite-style army (no Ghoul Patrol)
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Honestly even if you don't use the outflank at all its still worth the cost and then some for healing 1d6 models a turn, reducing deployment drops, and netting an extra artifact.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/03/08 17:41:20
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2017/03/08 19:33:32
Subject: [2000] - Flesh-Eater Courts - Elite-style army (no Ghoul Patrol)
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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NinthMusketeer wrote:Honestly even if you don't use the outflank at all its still worth the cost and then some for healing 1d6 models a turn, reducing deployment drops, and netting an extra artifact.
I'm not sure that applies for a pure FEC list. It's 180pts in reality (because almost no one takes a Ghast Courtier). So just under 10% of a 2k army. In general though most FEC armies tend to have 5-6 drops even with the ghoul patrol. So against a lot of the top tier lists they're already getting the choice. The extra artifact is nice in a dual dragon list but meh in anything else. I find it quasi useful but not as much sometimes as the 180pts it frees up.
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