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Taken from the comments on the war of Sigmar blog. A new battlefleet game is coming from the specialist games studio. I guess it will be the next project after Titanicus. Atia said it was called 'heresy'. Hastings confirmed that the game is coming but didn't know about the title.
He also said that a new 'mordheim' game is coming in 2018. Probably Aosified but he did not know any details. Exciting times.
No info about real Necromunda. Sorry.

I can chip in about Battlefleet Heresy.

First heard of that through a reliable source I could reasonably expect to know that info. BFG returning, but set during the Heresy.

That's all I was told

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I can chip in about Battlefleet Heresy.

First heard of that through a reliable source I could reasonably expect to know that info. BFG returning, but set during the Heresy.

That's all I was told

Battlefleet Heresy is BFG set during the Heresy?

That couldn't be inferred from the OP at all

 Nostromodamus wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I can chip in about Battlefleet Heresy.

First heard of that through a reliable source I could reasonably expect to know that info. BFG returning, but set during the Heresy.

That's all I was told

Battlefleet Heresy is BFG set during the Heresy?

That couldn't be inferred from the OP at all

I think he was just corroborating the news.

Just offering what I know

Though this was quite a while back, maybe a couple of years? Certainly before Specialist Games type stuff was re-announced.

I'd love to see the various Primarch's flagships. Even if I don't much fancy them.

I think we heard the rumour of BFG coming back but set in the Heresy last year. I'm as dissapointed now as I was then and getting increasingly frustrated with Forge Worlds "If you don't play Marines we don't care" attitude that seems to have pervaded all of their releases.

Yeah, enough with the Heresy already. I'd just like a BFG reboot. Preferably at the same scale so I can use my ships...

Chikout wrote:
Taken from the comments on the war of Sigmar blog. A new battlefleet game is coming from the specialist games studio. I guess it will be the next project after Titanicus. Atia said it was called 'heresy'. Hastings confirmed that the game is coming but didn't know about the title.
He also said that a new 'mordheim' game is coming in 2018. Probably Aosified but he did not know any details. Exciting times.
No info about real Necromunda. Sorry.

You sure the mordheim game is coming 2018 and not late 2017?

zerosignal wrote:
Yeah, enough with the Heresy already. I'd just like a BFG reboot. Preferably at the same scale so I can use my ships...

It will continue as long as players show they want it.

I think the problem is that they are still a very small studio. As with the original Adeptus Titanicus and 'Space Marine', the heresy is a good excuse to produce a limited range of minis.


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terry wrote:

Chikout wrote:
Taken from the comments on the war of Sigmar blog. A new battlefleet game is coming from the specialist games studio. I guess it will be the next project after Titanicus. Atia said it was called 'heresy'. Hastings confirmed that the game is coming but didn't know about the title.
He also said that a new 'mordheim' game is coming in 2018. Probably Aosified but he did not know any details. Exciting times.
No info about real Necromunda. Sorry.

You sure the mordheim game is coming 2018 and not late 2017?

Hastings said 2018. Shadespire is different.

 Imateria wrote:
I think we heard the rumour of BFG coming back but set in the Heresy last year. I'm as dissapointed now as I was then and getting increasingly frustrated with Forge Worlds "If you don't play Marines we don't care" attitude that seems to have pervaded all of their releases.

And yet, I don't think anybody is surprised either. A shame since I also share your disappointment.

The non-existent optimist in me wants to say that in any reboot they were always going to focus on the Imperials/Chaos first anyway and that if the game is successful enough we might see them dip into Eldar/Ork fleets, but when they can sustain their profits entirely off Lil Timmy and his Bland Marines I guess I shouldn't get my hopes up.

The Mordheim reboot will probably be Sigmarines and Chaos Warriors too.

Consider this.

From what we're told, BFG, Epic et al were folded due to limited sales - GW, whether you agree with their decision or not, decided to focus on their main games instead.

Now, FW have a budget to bring those games back. If you were them, would you spend that budget desperately trying to please everyone, or would you spend it doing proper justice to the game in a setting that's already making you oodles of cash, with an eye to using said oodles of cash to continue to (hopefully) bang up job on expanding it to other races and species?

One is a gamble - maybe not especially high risk, but a gamble all the same. The other is a more or less sure thing.

also when you consider Heresy is FW domain, not surprised it will be based then

Good to see more specialist games stuff, though gotta share in the disappointment of it being more Heresy stuff, though I'm not overly surprised.

Much the same as the AT set I want to see other races apart from SM/CSM! Though I understand the lower risks and ease of starting off with HH forces.

Have to hope that it's successful enough for GW/FW to step up and offer expansions sets for other races (which if it's a success I'd expect them to do), or that the community and 3rd party manufacturers fill the void.


Re Mordenheim races; Depends on the Chaos forces, if it was set in the free cities with Tzeentch / Slaanesh cultists then I'd be on it. Just not more Khorne.

Also, the Horus Heresy is being used the same way it originally was waaaay back with the original Epic games --- it's the easiest way to start a game when both sides use the same equipment.

You start, for instance, a 40K BFG reboot. Well you'll be expected to release at least two races (probably four) right at launch and follow it with the other...12? You start a game of BFG Horus Heresy era and you need to make one fleet. 6-7 ships. Everyone uses them and you move on from there. Same thing with Adeptus Titanicus relaunch. By using the Horus Heresy it's much easier to start up a smaller scaled game. If it's successful you can then tackle other stuff later.

It's just good business, really.

As long as bfg is Same scale nothing stops you from playing your old fleets. In fact made to order may make a bfg run. If bfg does well enough expect expansions.

How much do you think they can possibly release in a year or two?!

We are getting Blood bowl, AT, Necromunda (I'm still sure I heard this, even if most people have disregarded it), Battlefleet Heresy and Mordheim

It's perfectly understandable if they are limiting things to essentially two sides to get things fleshed out and playable.

Otherwise you'd get people whinging their army isn't out yet and holding off until they are released - potentially as you are getting with bloodbowl.

I begin to wonder if shadespire isn't going to be GWs attempt to steal the competitive tournament play oriented crowd from PP

so using the AoS background but not the rules (or very heavily modified at least)

It would give them a decent sized pool of new buyers for minimal effort, no need to make new minis, it just used the AoS ones (or a subset of them) all they need is the rules

it would fit with their 'not the sort of game we've done before' talk

it would also give them something to compare sales between narrative and competitive games which may help their future plans for their prime game, 40K

Looking at the reaction to MkIII, getting shot of Press Gangers, and burning their Forum, followed by the Kharaharahanghodsajdfnsdfjgnsddon Ovelords - might be a few PP 'high ups' smacking their heads at the moment!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Consider this.

From what we're told, BFG, Epic et al were folded due to limited sales - GW, whether you agree with their decision or not, decided to focus on their main games instead.

More like gw didn't want them to compete with fb and 40k. They thought no epic means they get same money from 40k with less development costs.
Alternavively gw green lighted product despite excepting flop sales if 400% exceeding is not enough

Id have thought the AOS mordheim game will be this "warhammer underworlds" thing they announced at GAMA

It's beginning to look like Heresy is code for 'don't expect any updates on this ever'. The only reason to use the heresy setting is to limit options and diversity and ensure you have limited balance problems because both sides will end up being largely the same.

Nvs wrote:
It's beginning to look like Heresy is code for 'don't expect any updates on this ever'. The only reason to use the heresy setting is to limit options and diversity and ensure you have limited balance problems because both sides will end up being largely the same.

Riiight. Like there's few units in 30k...lol

tneva82 wrote:

Nvs wrote:
It's beginning to look like Heresy is code for 'don't expect any updates on this ever'. The only reason to use the heresy setting is to limit options and diversity and ensure you have limited balance problems because both sides will end up being largely the same.

Riiight. Like there's few units in 30k...lol

The forum is drowning in comments about how few Space Marine releases Forgeworld make! Poor neglected heresy

And yet.... does it being set during the Heresy not open the way for Squat fleets? And not in an understated, demiurg, way, but in a shiny chrome cannon the size of a city atop a leather coated starship!

I'm excited for the glorious Imperial fleets.

Interesting if BFG is coming back. But, game design has moved on a bit since that first came out - it will have to be something special indeed to give Star Wars Armada a run for its money, in my view.

 Pacific wrote:
Interesting if BFG is coming back. But, game design has moved on a bit since that first came out - it will have to be something special indeed to give Star Wars Armada a run for its money, in my view.

That will be almost impossible to do.

tneva82 wrote:

zerosignal wrote:
Yeah, enough with the Heresy already. I'd just like a BFG reboot. Preferably at the same scale so I can use my ships...

It will continue as long as players show they want it.

Or it could be like BL's ever-quickening stream of limited editions per the Laurie Goulding interview: a spiral of diminishing returns and narrowing focus that saps all other viable projects' resources making harder and harder to escape.

 Pacific wrote:
Interesting if BFG is coming back. But, game design has moved on a bit since that first came out - it will have to be something special indeed to give Star Wars Armada a run for its money, in my view.

Well, one of those games is easy and fun to play and has an exciting IP attached to it, but the other has the Star Wars license, so maybe you're right.

Well, Bloodbowl was a success even with the Mantic sci-fi one and Guild Ball.

But yes. Beating Star Wars its a thing that I think GW can't acomplish.