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Made in us
Powerful Phoenix Lord





Dallas area, TX

I have a tourney coming in over a week and it is restricted to 1 LoW of any kind.
I thought I had the list down, but then I was playing around and came up with a second list I really like.

Here's the first list: Double Reborn Host + USF:
Spoiler:
___Reborn Warhost x2_____________[1609pts]
Autarch Skyrunner w/ Laser lance & Banshee mask
Farseer Skyrunner w/ spear

Archon w/ Armour of Misery & Webway Portal
ML2 Shadowseer w/ Mask of Secrets & Neuro Disruptor
5 Wraithguard w/ D-scythes

4 Black Guardian Windriders w/ Shuricannons
4 Windriders w/ Scatter lasers
4 Windriders w/ Scatter lasers
3 Windriders w/ Scatter lasers
3 Windriders w/ Scatter lasers

4 single Khymera
2 Shadow Weaver support weapons & 1 Warlock
WraithKnight w/ 2 Scatter lasers

___Ulthwe Strike Force_________________[240pts]
Black Guardian Vyper w/ Star cannon & Shuricannon
Black Guardian Vyper w/ Star cannon & Shuricannon
Black Guardian Vyper w/ Star cannon & Shuricannon
Black Guardian Vyper w/ Star cannon & Shuricannon

Alpha Strike the Vypers as both distraction and Soulburst bait (by having Ynnari units move 7" of them when they drop). Shadowseer roll Telepathy for Shriek + LD shenanigans.
Shadow Weavers are just there a a cheap IC bunker for the jetbike ICs to start in.

Here is list 2, single Reborn Host + Eldar CAD:
Spoiler:
___Reborn Warhost _____________[984pts]
Farseer Skyrunner w/ Spirit Stones of Anath’lan
Archon w/ Armour of Misery & Webway Portal
ML2 Shadowseer w/ Mask of Secrets & Neuro Disruptor
5 Wraithguard w/ D-scythes

3 Windriders w/ 2 Shuricannons & 1 Scatter laser
3 Windriders w/ 2 Shuricannons & 1 Scatter laser
3 Windriders w/ 2 Shuricannons & 1 Scatter laser
3 Windriders w/ 2 Shuricannons & 1 Scatter laser

2 Khymera
1 Khymera
1 Khymera
2 Shadow Weaver support weapons

___Eldar CAD__________________[862pts]
Autarch Skyrunner w/ Laser lance & Banshee mask

3 Windriders w/ Scatter lasers
3 Windriders w/ Scatter lasers
Hornet w/ 2 Pulse lasers
Hornet w/ 2 Pulse lasers

Skathach WraithKnight w/ Inferno lances & 2 Scatter lasers
Skyshield Landing Pad w/ 2 barricades

No Alpha Strike tactics is a bummer, but by swapping for Hornets and the Inferno Lance WK, I can more reliably handle vehicle heavy lists (meaning AV13+ spam) while still being able to handle 1 Knight (remember only 1 LoW in this Tourney).
It still has the WG bomb, but can better survive enemy attack by having the Landing Pad + Barricades. And I have 2 Obsec units just in case

As a bonus, the 2nd list doesn't have to track which unit is in which Reborn host.

So which is better?

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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2017/03/22 16:57:46


   
Made in us
Powerful Phoenix Lord





Dallas area, TX

So I tried the second list against an Imperial mixed army.
He had a Dem Co (not Gladius just the single Co, not sure what that's called) Saint Celestine in a Command company on bikes, 2 Dev units with Missles, a SW formation that included Grey Hunters & 1 unit of TWC, and 1 Culexus.

The Landing pad paid for itself. He had several Grav cannons, so the 4++ kept my WK alive.
The biggest take away of the list is that I killed Celestine on the first try with the WG.
They dropping in, got 4 Flamers on her unit, killing her and all the bikes behind her. The -4LD from the Mask & Armour of Misery made her fail her LD test to come back to life. After that it was a slaughter.
The Soulbursting bike were quite helpful, but having the 2 Obsec units would have made a difference if I hadn't done so well early on. And I cannot get over how much more I like the Inferno lances over the Wraithcannon WK. They are much better at taking out MSU, yet can still get in melta range and take out a Knight if needed. The Hornets are also a better choice than the USF Vypers.
I really need those str8 shots.

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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/03/24 12:46:26


   
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The 2nd list definitely seems the stronger. Almost exclusively play ITC rules so it's sword and board for me. Those inferno lances do look tasty.
   
Made in us
Powerful Phoenix Lord





Dallas area, TX

Yeah, the Inferno Lance really gives my something the list doesn't have, and supports the Ynnari better (because it can kill multiple units in a the same shooting phase, unlike a melee WK) thus granting more Soulbursts.
Most units I would want a melee WK for can be dealt with by the WG. Plus even a shooting WK is decent in melee in a pinch

   
 
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