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What model do you think is really outdated and needs an update? As a Blood Angels player I feel that Corbulo, Dante and Mephistom really need new models. Their models just seem un-dynamic and sort of squished up. Then you have Astoroth who is just a really nice sculpt (alongside the Sanguinor and Lemartes). Anyway, enough of my rant. What's your opinion?

Most character models need an update, sadly.

Outside of those and going by units,

Tyranid Bio- and Pyro- vores
Ork buggies and wartrakks
Eldar Guardians
Chaos marine troops and termies
The entire Sisters of Battle line
Every Aspect warrior kit
Cadian Shock Troops
Chaos Marine defiler tank
Daemonettes. Not that old, but fiddly and ugly
Not sure what else, but there's a fair bit that could/should be re-done

I like that you didn't include Catachans. They don't need redone, they need burned.

Jain Zar more than anything.

I thought they went OOP?

 SpinCycleDreadnought wrote:
I thought they went OOP?

Still available. Still look like potatoes.

Abaddon.

Beast of Nurgle, Great Unclean One, Epidemius.

Havocs

I can talk about my armies:

Orks: Buggies, grotsnik and the deffkopta (the black reach one was better than the metal one).

Dark Eldar: drazhar... but both the court of the archon and the beastpack need a new plastic kit, their models are ok but no one is gonna buy them at their prize and they're monopose.

Space Wolves: ragnar blackmane.

Argee onthe Ork buggies and the BR deffkopta comments.

But also Ork Boyz. I love the character but they are just so static.
Running Boyz firing from the hip and swinging choppaz would be great.

Almost the entire Craftworld range (everything that isn't a jetbike or a Wraith unit, basically), most of the Orks, everyone's vehicles, most of the Guard, the Battle Sisters, most of the CSM range.

And generic Terminators. I know we've got the Tartaros/Cataphractii kits now but the basic Terminator kit is awful. It looks like a normal 40k kit that got stuck in a microwave and melted until you couldn't tell bits of it apart.

With the way they're doing kits now, they could definitely use a new plastic Eldar Guardian kit. Guardian models (back when they were metal) had far more character. A lot more randomized helmets, equipment, etc. They could also do with plastic close-combat weapons as an option (even though Storm Guardians aren't great). It's a pretty weak sauce kit and the detail is much softer than more modern kits.

The Falcon and its kits are fine - but could do with a mould clean-up. I actually don't like the new Fire Prism turret, but the other add-on bits were a nice thought.

The Avatar could use re-doing, but with Forgeworld having an alternative this probably won't happen. Also with the Ynnari(?) or whatever, they'll probably just say "use that one!"

I'd like to see the current War Walker redone just because it's a terribly hideous design.

Plastic Aspect warriors need to happen, or at the very least offer metals in place of the terrible fine-cast ones. However, even with dual kits (which you could definitely make work) this would be a 3-4 box release and would need some momentum behind it to happen - not impossible considering stuff like the Thousand Sons which included several boxes, etc.

Catachans need to go away - terrible kit, always has been.

Cadian basic Imperial Guard need re-done. Boring and old kit. They could produce a much more modular "generic" Imperial Guard kit, or even just two kits, one with great coats, one without - each with several different heads, etc.

Chaos needs some work. They need to fire whoever designed the Obliterators and Plague Marines and his "smear stuff" styling which is lazy and looks completely crap. The basic Chaos Space Marine set could use a re-do as well. Particularly now that they're effectively using MkIV/MkIII etc. armour. I'd like to see some attention paid to turning Chaos models into ones intentionally wearing older pattern armour.

 Elbows wrote:
...I'd like to see the current War Walker redone just because it's a terribly hideous design...

Funnily enough this is the only vehicle in the Eldar range I don't think needs a massive overhaul. Though if they could sneak plastic Wasp jets into the kit that'd be cool. Also possibly ball-joint guns, let them point sideways a bit.

Make an Aegis Defense Line for each race/codex.

There are 3rd party ones out there, I know. GW missed the boat on that one.

Vespids. I love them, I love their desing. Just update them to be more dinamic and plastic, please :(

I don't think anything with a current plastic kit needs any attention until EVERY SINGLE Failcast, Finecrap, Finecast model has a plastic update.

So while kits like Eldar Gaurdians and Ork Boyz may be showing their age, they are still far superior than anything in finecast.

Ones I can think of:
Dark Eldar - Court of the Archon, Beastpacks, Grots, Mandrakes, Incubi
Daemons - Keeper of Secrets, Great Unclean One, Beasts of Nurgle, Fiends of Slaanesh

Eldar - Phoenix Lords, All 6 Aspect units - these could easily be done in 3 Kits with simple head and weapon swaps like so:
Banshees/Hawks - similar pose and armour, just have 2 different back plates for wings or not
Scorpions/Spiders - similar pose and armour, different heads, arms and back plate + warp jump generator
Dragons/Reapers - again similar stance and heavy armour, just head & weapon swaps.

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 kronk wrote:
Make an Aegis Defense Line for each race/codex.

There are 3rd party ones out there, I know. GW missed the boat on that one.

But, only steenking xenos ever invade anywhere. So, all battles take place on Imperial soil, and only Imp buildings are ever seen on the battlefield.
Apart from the expansionist Tau, and their floating fortresses.

Other buildings would be nice, but once they start, everyone will want one.

Abaddon. As much as he's deemed a classic character and model he no longer fits in with the updated ranges around him. In fact I'd say most of chaos needs it but surely now is the time to redo Abby

Historically, GW had a big 6 across it's games:
Space Marines
Orks
Chaos
Eldar,
IG
Tyranids

In terms of popularity, Orks, IG, and Nids have fallen way off, replaced by variant chapters, Tau, and a wave of new options.

I'd look to make sure the core armies all had complete, modern, model ranges. That would make the first priority the Orks. Buggies, Trakks, Koptas, and possibly even boyz.

Next would be Chaos, which has some of the more unfortunate kits. Terminators, warriors, and bikes(!) would be the priority there.

Eldar Aspects are a curious one. I think they are just really well suited for metal, but a fresh design wouldn't be out of line. The Guardians are a tired kit though.

SM have an embarrassment of riches, although a truly new bike kit would be really nice.

Tyranid gaunts are an early 3rd edition kit, but they aren't really showing their age. The MCs are good looking, and the only thing still old and/or in finecast is the pyrovore/biovore, which is a luxury piece, but worth making a dual plastic kit.

I think at this point the IG are stuck with the vehicles they have, which is fine. The Catachans can probably fade away. Rather than redesign the cadians, I'd rather create a new, genuinely 40k-ish human army. Something with more of a sci-fi/grim dark feel. If we stick with cadians, than redesign the basic box to include all the special weapons, power weapons, and at least a missile launcher in the box.

The above tried to mix my thoughts as a gamer with some business sense. From a pure gamer standpoint, I'd say Sisters of Battle!

Now that they're leaning in to giving CSM proper heresy era armor Abaddon should be in caterphractii. Or maybe they wouldn't because it would
mean that you wouldn't have to buy the FW one.

Chaos Furies. God those models are hideous. They weren't good when they came out, and are far less good now.

GUO. The current one is ..ok.. i guess.. but we could really use a new one.

Beasts of Nurgle - See Chaos Furies.

While we are on the subject Ku'Gath would like an actual model please

KOS - i just hate the model. It was cool when it came out, but that was a hundred years ago

I felt the same about the LOC and Bloodthirster, but the new sculpts are amazing

Not sisters, that's for sure, they're in a good place right now.

Chaos Space Marine troops, oh my gods. Comparing the detail of the Raptor kit with the Marine kit makes me cry.

Cadians/Catachans/Valhallans, maybe Steel Legion.
Keeper of Secrets, Fiends of Slaanesh.
Pretty much 2/4 of their webstore exclusive range, tbh.

 SpinCycleDreadnought wrote:
Most character models need an update, sadly.

Outside of those and going by units,

Tyranid Bio- and Pyro- vores
Ork buggies and wartrakks
Eldar Guardians
Chaos marine troops and termies
The entire Sisters of Battle line
Every Aspect warrior kit
Cadian Shock Troops
Chaos Marine defiler tank
Daemonettes. Not that old, but fiddly and ugly
Not sure what else, but there's a fair bit that could/should be re-done

I kinda dispute the Defiler kit because I personally like it and it's functional (it does have most of the options). The Dire Avengers also work, they just need to stop being greedy about it and make it a 10-man box for a reasonable price again.

That said, all Finecast models. Regardless of when they came out, we have the plastic technology to make them in plastic now. Price not withstanding, Plastic is far superior to resin, at least in context of GW Citadel Products. Among them:
Abaddon, Dante, Azrael and any other model from 2nd edition. Those models did NOT age well. Especially Abaddon.

Another one is the Daemon Prince. The kit we have now is kinda nice, but the legs are weedy when you try to apply the CSM-style armor on him (it looks like he missed every leg day since the day of his ascension). We need a kit with the CSM armored legs. And probably some faces that look less like grinning cartoon villains.

Warbosses. We need Warbosses. Mega Armored and just normal armored. And not just a clampack grukk, but a real kit with options and junk.

Chaos Terminators. Now the entire chaos line needs an update but nothing is in more desperate need than the Chaos Terminators since they lack even enough weapons for a basic squad, let alone the necessary parts for all the options. Same goes for the Chaos Havocs.

 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:

 SpinCycleDreadnought wrote:
Most character models need an update, sadly.

Outside of those and going by units,

Tyranid Bio- and Pyro- vores
Ork buggies and wartrakks
Eldar Guardians
Chaos marine troops and termies
The entire Sisters of Battle line
Every Aspect warrior kit
Cadian Shock Troops
Chaos Marine defiler tank
Daemonettes. Not that old, but fiddly and ugly
Not sure what else, but there's a fair bit that could/should be re-done

I kinda dispute the Defiler kit because I personally like it and it's functional (it does have most of the options). The Dire Avengers also work, they just need to stop being greedy about it and make it a 10-man box for a reasonable price again.

That said, all Finecast models. Regardless of when they came out, we have the plastic technology to make them in plastic now. Price not withstanding, Plastic is far superior to resin, at least in context of GW Citadel Products. Among them:
Abaddon, Dante, Azrael and any other model from 2nd edition. Those models did NOT age well. Especially Abaddon.

Another one is the Daemon Prince. The kit we have now is kinda nice, but the legs are weedy when you try to apply the CSM-style armor on him (it looks like he missed every leg day since the day of his ascension). We need a kit with the CSM armored legs. And probably some faces that look less like grinning cartoon villains.

Warbosses. We need Warbosses. Mega Armored and just normal armored. And not just a clampack grukk, but a real kit with options and junk.

Chaos Terminators. Now the entire chaos line needs an update but nothing is in more desperate need than the Chaos Terminators since they lack even enough weapons for a basic squad, let alone the necessary parts for all the options. Same goes for the Chaos Havocs.

Like I said at the start, some fine cast models are quite nice. Others are total garbage. I'm not sure on the modelling side (only one I've ever worked with is Canoness Veridiyan). Plastic is far nicer but ones like Astoroth and Lemartes are miles ahead of the Eldar... blobs?

 SpinCycleDreadnought wrote:
Most character models need an update, sadly.

Chaos Marine defiler tank

Don't disagree with most, but why the defiler? I always thought it looked pretty good, overall.

Basically all of the IG pewter metal regiments. Most of them are anywhere between 17-20+ years old.

 Ascalam wrote:
Chaos Furies. God those models are hideous. They weren't good when they came out, and are far less good now.

GUO. The current one is ..ok.. i guess.. but we could really use a new one.

Agreed on Furies, they are really bad, even for Daemon standards. However the GUO is not okay. It's the worst Nurgle Daemon on the market including all 3rd party daemons - and that's saying something when we talk about Nurgle . It is a really hideous model. Luckily we have Glottkin already. And dozens of alternatives.

Blackhair Duckshape wrote:Not sisters, that's for sure, they're in a good place right now.

Chaos Space Marine troops, oh my gods. Comparing the detail of the Raptor kit with the Marine kit makes me cry.

The size differential between CSM and the newer SM kits too, it's hard to feel like the Big Bad Guys when you're the shorter ones

Commissar Benny wrote:Basically all of the IG pewter metal regiments. Most of them are anywhere between 17-20+ years old.

That would be swell, though I'd be happy enough if they ever brought praetorian guard back.

 Skinnereal wrote:

 kronk wrote:
Make an Aegis Defense Line for each race/codex.

There are 3rd party ones out there, I know. GW missed the boat on that one.

But, only steenking xenos ever invade anywhere. So, all battles take place on Imperial soil, and only Imp buildings are ever seen on the battlefield.
Apart from the expansionist Tau, and their floating fortresses.

Other buildings would be nice, but once they start, everyone will want one.

Still on Imperial worlds though, their filthy heretical buildings just float there through space.

1. Abaddon.

2. Sisters actually don't look too bad. It's just that metal sucks and we want variety to custom poses and gear. That said, they need plastics.

3. New female commissar.

4. All Eldar Exarchs

5. New plastic scouts that don't look like Dion Phaneuf on the Ottawa Senators and are bigger.

6.Chaplain Xavier!!!!!!!!!