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So the General's Handbook came out and included a mode of play that has army lists with point values.

What about the units that came out since that volume was published?

I would assume that any new models will come with publications that include their points values.

Do they?

Disciples of Tzeentch, Blades of Khorne and the new Stormcast Eternal battletomes have all had the points in the back of the book.

AFAIK, all the new models that have come out have been released alongside books detailing their fluff. I can't say for sure, but it would only make sense to include all their rules in these books

EDIT: Thanks Ghaz, that was what I was reaching for.

What is "the book?" The General's handbook? Their particular battletome? A campaign book?

I get this must seem like a really obvious question, but given how things are spread around multiple books and supplements in 40k, I thought I'd ask. All my Age of Sigmar playing has been with people who supplied all the models and rules ready to go.

As Ghaz said, Disciples of Tzeentch has all the new Tzeencth unit rules and points
Blades of Khorne has all the new Khorne unit rules & points
and the new Stormcast Eternal battletome has all the Stormcast and griffin unit rules and points.

Future AoS releases will always be accompanied by a book that includes their rules.

Supposedly they also plan on re-releasing the generals hand book every year or so with updated points for all models currently in the game.

 Venerable Ironclad wrote:
Supposedly they also plan on re-releasing the generals hand book every year or so with updated points for all models currently in the game.

They will be updating the General's Handbook, but I don't remember them saying that updated Pitched Battle profiles were guaranteed to be in each new edition.

Thanks for answering my questions everyone!

The app also has the points if you buy the GHB through the app.

 auticus wrote:
The app also has the points if you buy the GHB through the app.

I've got 2 problems with that, 1) I need to buy a digital version and 2) you need an app for the points(that isn't availible for windows phone, so I can't download it)

I have the 99p Azyr function unlocked and that gives you all the points even if you don't have the GHB on the app. I think the Azyr function is absolutely awesome by the way. It's as good as scrollbuilder but you don't need an Internet connection and so you can use it on the go.

They are bringing scrollbuilder to the Warhammer Community website soon, and from that moment onwards all points will be available for free through an official capacity. It's a great move by GW.

Lastly, Heelanhammer strongly hinted that Kurnoth Hunters and Hurricanums were getting a points raise in the GHBII so it seems fairly certain the GHBII will contain new points values for all the scrolls. I doubt they'll be selling more that one edition of the GHB at once.

 Bottle wrote:
Lastly, Heelanhammer strongly hinted that Kurnoth Hunters and Hurricanums were getting a points raise in the GHBII so it seems fairly certain the GHBII will contain new points values for all the scrolls. I doubt they'll be selling more that one edition of the GHB at once.

They'd almost have to keep each edition of the General's Handbook in print. The only other options would be to cut older content as each book went out of print or keep the content in print by adding to the new edition, making the General's Handbook look like the General's Phonebook

 Ghaz wrote:

They'd almost have to keep each edition of the General's Handbook in print. The only other options would be to cut older content as each book went out of print or keep the content in print by adding to the new edition, making the General's Handbook look like the General's Phonebook

GW can keep packaging rules with in-print models in the unlikely event their book leaves circulation before they do, and can leave those profiles available online in a flat file hosted on their site or by way of the AoS app long after the model disappears too.

I think the next edition of the General's Handbook will (and should) handle it much the same way the first one did: include points values, model iterations and battlefield role values for every unit in the game (including books that have not been released yet but are finalized and being printed.) Just to have it serve as the definitive benchmark for the game and avoid so much confusion going forward.

Battletomes retain their usefulness in the same way the Sylvaneth one did so close to the GH's release: by being the exclusive resource for the faction's battalions, artifacts, and spell lore.

 Captain Joystick wrote:
GW can keep packaging rules with in-print models in the unlikely event their book leaves circulation before they do, and can leave those profiles available online in a flat file hosted on their site or by way of the AoS app long after the model disappears too.

Except its not the rules for the models in the General's Handbook It's rules like the Path to Glory rules, the Grand Alliance allegiance abilities and artefacts, etc. that would go out of print.

 Ghaz wrote:
Except its not the rules for the models in the General's Handbook It's rules like the Path to Glory rules, the Grand Alliance allegiance abilities and artefacts, etc. that would go out of print.

Sorry, I don't quite follow what you're saying here?

Unless they intended to do away with that element of the game entirely it's granted that GH2 would have the pitched battle rules, path of glory, and the rest. Why wouldn't it?

 Captain Joystick wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
Except its not the rules for the models in the General's Handbook It's rules like the Path to Glory rules, the Grand Alliance allegiance abilities and artefacts, etc. that would go out of print.

Sorry, I don't quite follow what you're saying here?

Unless they intended to do away with that element of the game entirely it's granted that GH2 would have the pitched battle rules, path of glory, and the rest. Why wouldn't it?

Which means if they don't keep the original General's Handbook in print, in order to add anything new to the second edition and keep the old material the book would be twice the size of the original. Then next year's edition would be three times the size of the original, then four times the size and so on and so forth.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Captain Joystick wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
Except its not the rules for the models in the General's Handbook It's rules like the Path to Glory rules, the Grand Alliance allegiance abilities and artefacts, etc. that would go out of print.

Sorry, I don't quite follow what you're saying here?

Unless they intended to do away with that element of the game entirely it's granted that GH2 would have the pitched battle rules, path of glory, and the rest. Why wouldn't it?

Which means if they don't keep the original General's Handbook in print, in order to add anything new to the second edition and keep the old material the book would be twice the size of the original. Then next year's edition would be three times the size of the original, then four times the size and so on and so forth.

Well, at most they'd be adding content iteratively, so it would be n+n+n+n... and not n*2*2*2... That's said I see your point. Just updating the points tables at the back of the book and selling it for the same price may upset some people.

A lot of the content in that book though isn't really at risk of being doubled up or cut though: core rules, rules for matched play, the broad strokes of the game's core would remain intact (with corrections in line with the faqs, maybe), and beyond that there are things that will be replaced or removed without being missed. The fluff, the narrative battle plans, some of the open play content can be replaced easily with new content of the same type. Maybe path of glory gets replaced by some other campaign system, or skinned off into its own game, or updated but kept present.

Personally, I never expected anything beyond updates to the points tables. But now that I'm thinking about it, the battleplans seem to be obvious candidates for shake-ups.

They invited all the key Narrative TOs in the UK up for a day much like they invite the "Podcast Eternals" up for playtesting and points discussion. So I imagine there is new narrative content in there.

Every year they could tweak matched play with the new edition and offer entirely new content for Open and Narrative play - be it new campaign styles, tweaks to Path to Glory or new battleplans.

What I would like to see eventually is some of the compendium taken out and archived somewhere online. This would solve the problem of the page count growing year on year with the release of new models that need points tables, and would also allow TOs to play with just the current edition of the GHB whereas players of long OOP armies still have access to points somewhere online, much like the compendium warscrolls.

They invited all the key Narrative TOs in the UK up for a day much like they invite the "Podcast Eternals" up for playtesting and points discussion. So I imagine there is new narrative content in there.

It sucks not living near Nottingham.

 auticus wrote:

They invited all the key Narrative TOs in the UK up for a day much like they invite the "Podcast Eternals" up for playtesting and points discussion. So I imagine there is new narrative content in there.

It sucks not living near Nottingham.

You must have seen the pics on Twitter too! Looked so much fun, didn't it. I am sure you would have been there had it not meant a trip across the world :-)

You are correct. I'm still trying to get to play an event at Warhammer World.

When will the generals handbook 2 be released. Does anyone have a date?