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Si just played an 1850 pt game and have a question about the Sisters of Silence formation and their new Codex units.

So the Formation allows SoS to extend their Psychic Abomination out +3" for every additional Unit in the formation. You can have up to 3 Units in the formation, so this would extend the range 6 inches making it a 18" bubble. This is all good. Now the questions come in with the new Codex.

The Codex allows SoS to take dedicated Transports with the Psychic Abomination Special rule. Since they are dedicated transports for the SoS can they be taken with the Units in the Formation? This would extend the bubble to 27" from each unit.

Second, do the units have to be on the board to get the bubble extension? As in, if the SoS are in the rhino, would they contribute to the Bubble?

These are the issues that I have come up with while playing against this formation. As far as I can tell, they all seem legit, but that is crazy good for the points. can anyone verify this information?
   
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That seems to be the conclusions that my group have come up with as well. Using the precedent set by the Eldar Aspect Host FAQ that does indeed allow Serpents to benefit from +1BS, I would say that the Rhinos do indeed extend the range.

This means that 3 Rhinos can cover the entire board and shut down any Psykers. Overall this is a good thing as it discourages reliance on heavy Psychic lists and most Death Stars

As far as being on the board or not, if it just says "units in this formation" than no, they do not all need to be on the board, just a part of the formation.

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seems that they stack even in transports from my reading (I have the codex, bought 2 boxes of talons plus a burning of prospero) personally I am unlikely to run it as I rarely field anything imperial, I just build/paint and collect them. personally I am sitting patiently awaiting some xeno anti psyche love, but am highly doubtful that this will ever happen.

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Rite of Annulment:For each unit from this Detachment after the first that is on the battlefield.


The Sister squad has to be on a the table to count, being inside of the Rhino does not count.

SJ

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- Ephesians 6:12
 
   
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KnightScion wrote:
Si just played an 1850 pt game and have a question about the Sisters of Silence formation and their new Codex units.

So the Formation allows SoS to extend their Psychic Abomination out +3" for every additional Unit in the formation. You can have up to 3 Units in the formation, so this would extend the range 6 inches making it a 18" bubble. This is all good. Now the questions come in with the new Codex.

The Codex allows SoS to take dedicated Transports with the Psychic Abomination Special rule. Since they are dedicated transports for the SoS can they be taken with the Units in the Formation? This would extend the bubble to 27" from each unit.

Second, do the units have to be on the board to get the bubble extension? As in, if the SoS are in the rhino, would they contribute to the Bubble?

These are the issues that I have come up with while playing against this formation. As far as I can tell, they all seem legit, but that is crazy good for the points. can anyone verify this information?


Those SoS are a devastating counter to most deathstars, but your barkstar don't have to rely solely on psychic buffs to survive (4++ and FNP still pretty good). Keep Celestine alive and HnR towards those SoS and charge them.
   
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Embarked units are not on the board.

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 axisofentropy wrote:
Embarked units are not on the board.


Yes but the wording doesn't require squads to be on board.
   
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 koooaei wrote:
 axisofentropy wrote:
Embarked units are not on the board.


Yes but the wording doesn't require squads to be on board.

if jeffersonian000's quote for the rule is correct, then the rule does require the squads to be on the board

 
   
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 koooaei wrote:
 axisofentropy wrote:
Embarked units are not on the board.


Yes but the wording doesn't require squads to be on board.
Yes it does say "on the battlefield."

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 jeffersonian000 wrote:
Rite of Annulment:For each unit from this Detachment after the first that is on the battlefield.


The Sister squad has to be on a the table to count, being inside of the Rhino does not count.

SJ


We play it this way. You want the super bubble? Get out of your transports.

Still, 3 units in trasnports is pretty strong anti-psycher bubble.

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yea after some rereads, though some fun stuff here as they have to be on the table 3 units min size with rhinos. sisters hide or hold objectives in cover, rhinos move and flat out / pop smoke boom most of the board is a null psyche zone

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 G00fySmiley wrote:
yea after some rereads, though some fun stuff here as they have to be on the table 3 units min size with rhinos. sisters hide or hold objectives in cover, rhinos move and flat out / pop smoke boom most of the board is a null psyche zone

With a 27" bubble, you pretty much cover the entire board from just outside of your deployment zone. It's a massive game changer, just shuts the psychic phase right down.

SJ

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I'm down with that.
   
 
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