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I still collect and play Epic, and have all the versions of the game with multiple armies. Epic is what got me into gaming back in AT/SM1, and its mostly been part of my life in some way since. Last night I was painting some miniatures and remembered 3rd edition came out in 1997, and that this game was 20 years old!

I know Epic 40k is the least popular of the 4 Epic systems, I do think the core game box is an amazing set. I do miss the days of seeing Epic as a core game system, and seeing numerous tables being used to play it in gaming stores.

The memories...
   
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I know I play Epic Armegeddon, or NetEA whatever its actually called. I know theres EpicUK also. I have no clue what the difference is with any of them, just my buddy got our group into Armageddon and two years later I amassed 14 armies all atleast 3k points
   
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Wow! Well, if you like the scale of the game, the previous versions are all pretty cool too. The setting of Adeptus Titanicus and Space Marine v1, the early fluff of the Horus Heresy, is something that still captures my mind today.

All the versions have something unique to offer.
   
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Tough-as-Nails Ork Boy





Dorset, England

That is pretty shocking! I do remember looking at all the different Epic: Armageddon and Warmaster armies back in the day but never really got around to buying any.

Perhaps with the advent of the new Adeptus Titanicus I will get another chance!

he early fluff of the Horus Heresy, is something that still captures my mind today.

Funny for me the Horus Heresy is one of the more boring periods as it is just marines vs marines. I'd prefer to see the great crusade era or the 'modern' 40k era be the setting, as then there are lots of gribbley aliens to fight!

Epic seems perfect for representing the scale of battles which the Tyranids would participate in, seas of gaunts with massive Bio-Titans bestriding them etc.
   
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 Kroem wrote:
Funny for me the Horus Heresy is one of the more boring periods as it is just marines vs marines. I'd prefer to see the great crusade era or the 'modern' 40k era be the setting, as then there are lots of gribbley aliens to fight!


Well, my first exposure to 40k was a ad in Dragon magazine for Rogue Trader (if you can believe that). I wasn't really into gaming (played a few games of Battletech and didn't like it), but I LOVED the beakie marines. I had seen Adeptus Titanicus in the stores, but it was beyond my budget. Not just for the game itself, but also the blisters for additional vehicles.

Later on, a guy I knew offered me his AT/SM1 collection in one massive lot, along with the Codex Titanicus and a bunch of White Dwarf magazines. I literally had enough minis to give three other friends enough models to field their own armies. But the literature and story just captured my imagination, along with all the art (most of which is kind of cheesy now). I loved the different identities of the marine legions, and them fighting each other.

With that being said, I don't want to say I dislike change because I don't, but I haven't loved what GW has done with their re-visioning of the Heresy. I know changes need to be made design-wise and so on, so not saying things would have to remain as they were to be cool, I am just not blown away with the modern presentation.

Epic seems perfect for representing the scale of battles which the Tyranids would participate in, seas of gaunts with massive Bio-Titans bestriding them etc.


Yes that's true. And Orks as well. But for me Epic is about the scale. How I can have numerous squads, vehicles, and even Titans not take up a ton of space on a typical gaming board, and have whole cities, mountains, and rivers and so on. Plus more reasonable weapon ranges in most cases. I have seen some amazing battles for a bridge, or a particular building, that I haven't seen in any other scale. I hate most weapon ranges in 40k too. The short ranges of some weapons for that scale is just laughable. But in Epic they seemed a lot more reasonable in the earlier systems. They did get shorter while movement got faster which I found a little ridiculous, but that was to encourage more movement on the board.

Also, in the later versions a bigger board was typically necessary, but you could easily play a decent SM1 game on a 3 foot by 2 foot table. Just bigger games in that system took longer to play, which we did over several gaming nights at times. But we loved it. Now in order to speed gaming systems up a lot gets lost or glossed over. AT/SM1 had a lot of grit and detail. There are pros and cons either way.
   
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Tinkering Tech-Priest




Oakland, CA

Wow, it's been a few years.

Currently patiently waiting for the new edition of Titanicus. Just the concept of a new bunch of titan models make me happy.

Perfectly willing to wait for them.

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I really liked Epic 40,000. It had a really nice coherent art style (I think Des Hanley did most of the black and white art) and the miniatures were highly detailed. A nice change from 2nd edition Space Marine's "simple playing tokens" style.

Personally, I think the rules changes were a huge improvement over Space Marine; no need to worry about individual stands; everything was done at the detachment level, as befits a game where you're playing a battalion or regimental commander.
   
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KTG17 wrote:
I still collect and play Epic, and have all the versions of the game with multiple armies. Epic is what got me into gaming back in AT/SM1, and its mostly been part of my life in some way since. Last night I was painting some miniatures and remembered 3rd edition came out in 1997, and that this game was 20 years old!

I know Epic 40k is the least popular of the 4 Epic systems, I do think the core game box is an amazing set. I do miss the days of seeing Epic as a core game system, and seeing numerous tables being used to play it in gaming stores.

The memories...


Yeah Epic40K was just a different game but I loved it and it was really well supported at the time with all the different armies. It was when I started playing Epic and I found it a quick and fluid game. It just wasn't the old Epic and that disappointed a lot of people I think. GW really have lost something in making games these days. The new ones are OK, but nothing compared to the old classics.

Just wish GW would bring out a method for buying the old models more consistently than random made to order.

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Oakland, CA

We'll have to see with the new edition.

SW:A is essentially a direct port of Necromunda.

Who knows what Titanicus will hold?
   
 
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