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State of Jefferson

I'll start:
Farthest Northern California:
-DZC: Only me
-DFC: No one to my knowledge

I was really hoping they would catch on... ho-hum
   
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Dankhold Troggoth






Shadeglass Maze

I just got my first demo of Dropfleet this week, and it was awesome! There's quite a group springing up for it at my store, and I'm going in for it with PHR

I previously played DzC, but the barrier to playing it was higher as you needed a lot of terrain, and it got a bit stale with just the paper buildings (too many open fire lanes). From my demo, I felt Dropfleet took some of the better aspects of DzC (and some from BFG). A few of the weaknesses are still there, but not as pronounced. Overall I'm really excited to build up my fleet and play it more!
   
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UK

We are only a small club

Dropzone - not played regularily at the club but occassional large scale games - quite a few bought it but all still play.

Dropfleet - occassional games, current view is that its a bit overcomplex - especially in relation to the grouond combat stuff - a couple of the members have recently tried the new streamlined rules and one liked and one didnlt (but he likes the ground combat)

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There are streamlined Dropfleet rules?
   
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United Kingdom

 Ctaylor wrote:
There are streamlined Dropfleet rules?

Hawk released experimental tournament rules that streamline ground combat.
   
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Abel





Washington State

I got into Dropfleet as I saw it as the spiritual successor to Battle Fleet Gothic, and I expected it to be a "Space Fleet" game. Boy, could I have not been more wrong. It's almost deceptive- Hawk really pushes the models, and the models for the fleets are awesome! I love the space combat, and how it flows.

Unfortunately, the game is won or lost in the ground phase. The ground phase is where you score points to win the game. While a fleet in orbit might "blockade" or keep you from landing more troops on a planet, the only way to score in a game is to "take over" space stations or areas on a planet. Your fleets have to have some Troop or launch assets to land on a planet and take it over. The ground combat phase just has this huge disconnect from the space game, and it's incredibly difficult outside of a few very specific warships for your fleet to influence the ground combat, and the ground combat can't really do anything to your fleet. You can land Orbital Batteries on the ground and shoot at a fleet in orbit, but why? The guns don't help you hold the ground, and only a very few specific ships that are set up for Orbital Bombardment can actually bomb a planet, and they are so bad in space combat that you wouldn't want to take them in a fleet.

The biggest issue I have with Dropfleet is the ground combat. They can call the new rules "Optional Tournament Rules" or whatever, but the game is in sore need of a version 1.1 to fix a lot of issues in the current game, or even a 2.0 rule book, and the game just came out!

That's not to say the game is unplayable, but thanks to the way Corvettes work, we are seeing fleets of 3-4 "Bulk Landers"- Troop and Launch asset ships, and hordes of Corvettes because they are really cheap, and really, really good in large amounts.

I enjoy the game, but it has issues. Hawk is willing to listen and are making efforts to improve the game.


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Opps, need to answer the question. A few guys play Dropzone every once in a while (about once a month). There is a weekly group that runs Dropfleet every Saturday. They are currently playing an escalation league, and they run a tournament about every six weeks. Dropfleet is doing much, much better then Dropzone. I think that's mostly because my area is dominated by 40K, AoS, WM/H, and X-Wing when it comes to table top gaming.

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Where are you people?


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Should I wait for a new rule book?

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Southern AZ, they are extinct.
   
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There's always been an ember glowing for DZC in my area (generally 2 of us, but occasionally up to 4 people).

Right now we're taking a break from that for DFC.

I kinda agree that the ground combat aspect seems really overbearing on the game, but as far as Bombardment ships go I love the two that UCM have access to.

   
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Minnesota

My group in Minnesota plays Dropzone among other games and we have all 5 factions going.

No dropfleet

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In MN 2015-2016 DZC had 6-8layers. DFC had these same players kick start it, but with HWG dropping the ball for late/partial shipment of the KS = everyone is turned off.
Pity actually, both games are good games.

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Reynoldsburg Ohio

DZC Died locally right after the Kickstarter Ended. Some people are trying to get DFC going, but I'm not sure if either game will come back
   
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Astonished of Heck

 Swabby wrote:
Southern AZ, they are extinct.

Unfortunate.

A little farther north in the Phoenix Metro area we have a major store that has been doing well with it, and a new store that has been doing a good job trying to become a major store that has also been doing well with the DFC side. I am in the neighborhood of the latter, and I often see someone playing one of the games (usually Fleet) when I manage a visit. They have been organizing a few training days and quarterly tournaments for each side of the Metro area. There are a few problems

So, while not as big as 40K or WarmaHordes, it seems to be doing better than Malifaux, and a lot better than Firestorm. It may be a little lower than AoS/9th Age (there has been a growth league going for that) and Infinity (it was starting to have a good build up here on the east side before two big stores bought it last year).

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Louth, Ireland

I dropped the game due to disliking the mechanics, our local talon also dropped it before dropfleet hit so it's died out.

 
   
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West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA

I actually thought about kitbashing some PHR to be Battlefleet Gothic Craftworld Eldar ships. Their hull nicely mimics the heads of Wraith constructs and vehicle hulls.



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DZC - Our group has 1 player who does Scourge, one who is UCM, and myself as PHR. Its a on again off again game. We like it a lot. Models are wonderful, but only play it when there is a swarm of new releases for each faction. So when the last book came out we played a good 6-10 games, then it died out again.

DFC - Played a ton after waiting forever for my stuff. Got PHR and was vastly underwhelmed from how they are in space to ground version. Ended up buying a Shaltari army because I was so disgusted. again, same 3 people. but after a lot of game issues, wording issues we stopped playing it. Havent gone back since. I wanted a space game but just wasn't hitting it for us. Might dump the shaltari stuff online for $ and keep the PHR. I know they did a update but we feel better games are taking up our game time.

Seems to be more of a game that's big in the UK or around the world and not really caught in the US
   
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In a van down by the river

Not in touch with the scene around here, but I've seen most of the DZC stuff that stores had pretty much stay there; doesn't seem to be a big uptake for it anymore. One store didn't seem to have any DFC come in, another had a selection of the fleet booster boxes which have (mostly, minus the Scourge) disappeared from the shelves so it sold at least "okay" in my estimation; a retailer might feel differently by 75% of stock sold in a bit under a month seems like it'd fall under that header.

Miniature Market doesn't seem to be having a problem shifting units; both the battleships and corvettes seem to have sold through well and 13 of 27 products are out of stock. Not sure if this is "they're selling them that quickly" or "their restocks are that slow" but since I saw the corvettes at 20+ units and they were sold out shortly thereafter, someone is buying them. Of course, as many people from Europe have discovered the US is really mind-bogglingly big so decent sales for an online vendor doesn't directly translate to a decent playing community in any particular area.
   
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It's more that restocks are slow. Distributors were having problems getting new stock/restocks back when DZC first launched, and the recent embargo on restocks until the Kickstarter was done probably did more damage there.
   
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I'm trying to build up a community for DZC in my area (SW Ohio). I started a project to try and build 5 painted starter armies plus a nice urban board to drum up interested. We'll see how it goes. But as of now I am literally the only one I've seen in at least 2 years.

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 Freytag93 wrote:
I'm trying to build up a community for DZC in my area (SW Ohio). I started a project to try and build 5 painted starter armies plus a nice urban board to drum up interested. We'll see how it goes. But as of now I am literally the only one I've seen in at least 2 years.


DId the same 2 years ago, some interest, but many hours spent at a FGS with little or no interest drummed up. Best of luck

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the game in the US is hit or miss, are there large groups of players in one area? no, are there a couple players here or there? yes, sales show the product sells unlike games like RRT, there are players out there, they are just not in huge groups.

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Panama

Here in Panama, DZC the is not the most played game as X-wing and 40K, but is not dead like Malifaux and Heavy Gear. Even Heroclix had a horrible decline and burial. I have worked the last two years to maintain some level of interest with at least 5 players.

Right now we are starting an escalation campaign called Reconquest of Eden Prime. We are playing in the city of Romagrad.

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Reynoldsburg Ohio

 Freytag93 wrote:
I'm trying to build up a community for DZC in my area (SW Ohio). I started a project to try and build 5 painted starter armies plus a nice urban board to drum up interested. We'll see how it goes. But as of now I am literally the only one I've seen in at least 2 years.


there are a couple guys up in the Toledo Area that are always trying to get use to drive up north to play with them (We're in Central Ohio). They seem still enthusiastic about DZC. Not Sure about Dropfleet.
   
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Oklahoma City

I convinced a friend to come with me to play DZC at a local gaming club. Lots of people watched and were interested but when I dropped it for other things interest kind of died. It's possible if I show up again and start playing it'll pick back up.

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We play a lot of dropzone atm, I find its a really good game with great minis. Not interested in dropfleet though
   
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Panama

Some of you are lucky the game is moving very well in your area, others are not so lucky

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Astonished of Heck

 Capt. Camping wrote:
Some of you are lucky the game is moving very well in your area, others are not so lucky

It helps to have a healthy group to start and someone willing to have enough to demo to other people. People wanting to play that scale of game or just get away from GW/Privateer Press also helps.

Dropfleet really took off around here because a lot of Battlefleet Gothic players really missed playing it, and the only other spaceship game in town was Firestorm Armada which few of the game stores carried, and none really encouraged.

The models are well done, my only disappointment is that four factions are a little light, and two are human (5 and 3 if you include the Resistance in the ground game). It makes it easier to balance, but for someone who likes variety, it makes it harder to choose.

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Essex,, England

Feel sorry for you folks, my Hawk community is pretty lively, don't struggle to get a game of either ever. Probably about a dozen Dropzone players, and a dozen Dropfleet players, and they're not the same dozen which is nice


 
   
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The Great State of New Jersey

North Jersey:

DZC - Lots of people who own the game, almost everyone says nothing but positive things about the game and says they want to play it, but when push comes to shove nobody shows up for it, everyone would rather play Warmachine or 40k.

DFC - A handful of people bought into the game, but none of us have bothered to even assemble our stuff.

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problem is nothing wrong with the game itself, its just a matter of time and too many decent games to play.

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