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Hissing Hybrid Metamorph






Hello you awesome people, I utterly adore the Archaon figure on his glorious three-headed dragon. In a 2000pt list, is he actually feasible to put in with his 700pt price tag?

Most lists I've been trying to make with him come out somewhat lacking. This is the best one I could come up with so far:

Leaders
>Secrator

>Slaughter Priest
- Artefact: Blood-forged Armour
- Blood Blessing: Bronzed Flesh

>Slaughterpriest
- Artefact: Blood-forged Armour
- Blood Blessing: Killing Frenzy

Leader/Bohemoth
>Archaon

Battleline
>10x Blood Warriors
>5x Blood Warriors
>30x Reavers

Other
>3x Varanguard (or perhaps 6x Juggernauts?)

Battalions
>Gore Pilgrims

This list can give Archaon +1 to hit, +1 to his saves and +1 to his attacks. I'm not sure whether 3 Varanguard or 6 Juggernauts are better. What do you guys think about this list? Do you guys have any better suggestions, or is Archaon just not feasible in 2000pt lists? I'd rather keep to Khorne if I can as I've already got a big army collected. Also, I'm not looking for all out cheese, I'd just like something somewhat competitive.
   
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Archaon will always be hard to play at 2000 pts just because it will be hard to get his value back against most lists.

first of all, do not take the varanguard in this kind of list. They have no mark and will not allow you to take the new khorne allegiance abilities and blood tithe. furthermore 360 pts for 9 wounds is asking for trouble in an already low priority target list.

Then, maybe take some with command ability. If Archaon does one thing instead of killing things, it is the multiple command ability thing...

Not sure about the 30 reavers, I would take 10 as I suppose you need them for the battalion. keep battleline at a strict minimum. a fast msu list will help to protect archaon to be tarpitted against useless small units, You have a 700 pts model, with all buffs (slaughterpriests , secrator) he is a 1000. That means he will have to do more damage then that to be worth his pts. so you really do not want to see him tarpitted by something like brimstone horrors or zombies or clanrats with inspiring presence etc. maybe 3x5 flesh hounds can do the trick, they are on 50mm bases these days so they can block enemies from reaching archaon and cover a lot of terrain with only the 5 models, they are fast and can be hard enough to take out small units.

So my advice in a nutshell: make place for pts by removing varanguard, and spend less on battleline, do you really need the battalion?
Add multiple small fast units and add heroes with usefull command abilities.
   
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler





Archaon can grant the Varanguard the Khorne keyword and they have it until he changes it, so I think that works ruleswise?

I too was wondering if he could work well in a Blades of Khorne army. The Sorcerer Lord with Slaanesh Lord on Mount are his standard entourage along with a Jugger Lord. Would be nice to not have a Slaaneshi guy trying to get along with a Khornate guy for a change
   
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Dakka Veteran






Malathrim wrote:
Archaon can grant the Varanguard the Khorne keyword and they have it until he changes it, so I think that works ruleswise?


He can only bestow it in the first herophase. So at the start of the first turn your entire army would not have the "Khorne" keyword you need to have Khorne allegiance for blades of khorne rules. Allegiance is determined before the game starts.

It its the biggest reason I do not own 12 varanguard and I hope they will errata that at one point, giving the option to mark them like chaos warriors.(if archaon is on the battlefield)

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Germany

I think, Archaon fits better in a Tzeentch army than Khorne.

The units need generally less synergy and you can do some shenanigans with the destiny dice.
   
 
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