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Hey Dakka,

my LGS is Finishing up our League matches and our finisher is a 3500 point game of apocolypse. ANYTHING is allowed even unbound HOWEVER we are allowed a max of 3 Non-Knight LOW's
so i was hoping to get some of Dakka's help.

Firstly to list what i would like in regards to comments and help.

1. i am limited by what i own which i will state after the List.
2. i do not want to make a SUPER competitive list, however, i would like it to at least last without getting hammered first or 2nd turn.
3. i will not spam things.
4. if certain gear doesn't work i'd like you to suggest better alternatives.

other then those 4 things im fairly open lol.

NOW onto the List


HQ:

1- Archon w/ AOM, Shadow Field, Soul Trap and Agoniser 150pts

2- Farseer w/ The Spirit Stone of Anath'lan and a singing spear 120 pts (proxying in an archon as a farseer)

Elites-

1- Shadowseer w/ ML2 and MOS and HWG105pts (proxying in lelith Hesperax model)
2- Shadowseer w/ ML2 and HWG and crescendo (proxying in a black hekatrix model about the same size as Lelith)

Troops:

1- Kabalite Squad 8x kabalite warriors 1x sybarite w/ agoniser HWG 1x w/ splinter cannon and a raider transport w/ DL, night shields, and splinter racks 225
2- Kabalite Squad 8x kabalite warriors 1x sybarite w/ agoniser HWG 1x w/ splinter cannon and a raider transport w/ DL, night shields, and splinter racks 225
3- Wych Squad 9x wyches 1 hekatrix w/ an agoniser HWG and a raider transport w/ DL and Night shields 215pts
4- Wych Squad 9x wyches 1 hekatrix w/ an agoniser HWG and a raider transport w/ DL and Night shields 215pts

Fast Attack:

1- Razorwing Jetfighter w/ fighter ace traits, night shields Splinter Cannon two Disintegrator cannons, 2 monoscythe missiles, 1 necrotoxin missile and 1 shatterfield missile 195pts
2- Reavers w/ an Arena Champion, 1x w/ cluster Caltrops, 1x w/ HL 108pts
3- Scourges 1x w/ shardcarbine 4x/ Haywire blaster and 1x solarite 146pts

Heavy Support:

1-Ravager w/ 3x DL and night shields 140 pts
2-Ravager w/ 3x DL and night shields 140 pts
3- Voidraven Bomber w/ 2x shatterfield and 2x implosion missiles and 2 void lances 225pts (proxying in a crimson hunter for this)

LOW- WraithKnight W/ ghostglaive and scattershield, 2x scatter lasers 325pts

Formation-

Triumvirate of the Ynnead- 625pts

total points =3254pts

the models i have access to ARE

1 unit of trueborn
1 unit of bloodbrides
1 unit of Hellions
and alot of Dark Angel models( a full army tbh)


so what suggestions can each of you dakkanauts give me in regards to this list and how to improve it...

im loathe to do 2 detachments as that would confuse the hell out of me. however i'm open to it.

can i please get some Help?

I'll bite....
This is using listed models and assumes you are allowing proxies for independent characters​. I'm away from my books, so you will have to double-check my pts . While by no means super competitive it should make for fun game.... as long as your opponent is playing with the same mind set.

HQ
Lelith (can sub for Archon, Succubus, etc., Joins Wych squad #2)
Succubus w/AoM, Glaive, & Hwg (joins Wych squad#1)

Elites
Shadowseer w/ML 2, MoS (joins Wych squad#1)
Shadowseer w/ML 2, Miststave (joins Wych squad#2)

Troops
13 Wyches including Hexatrix w/ agoniser (Delivery system for your IC's, leadership shenanigans)
12 Wyches including Hexatrix w/ agoniser (Delivery system for your IC's, psychic shenanigans)

Fast Attack
5 Hellions (Bait screening, obj grabber may start in reserve)
5 Hellions (Bait screening obj grabber may start in reserve)

LoW
Wraithknight w/sword and board, 2x scatterlasers

Formation
Triumvirate of Ynead
Yvraine (joins Wych squad #1)
The Visarch (joins Wych squad#1)
Yncarne (starts in reserve)

Reborn Warhost#2
Farseer w/ Stones & Spear (joins Wych squad#2)
Autarch w/Shard & Mask ( reserve manipulation, joins Wych squad#2)

Troops
5 Kabalites w/blaster
Sybarite w/Hwg
Raider w/DL
(Bait, obj grabber may start in reserve)

5 Kabalites w/blaster
Sybarite w Hwg
Raider w DL
(Bait, obj grabber may start in reserve)

Fast Attack
Crimson Hunter Exarch (anti flyer, antitank, starts in reserve)
Razorwing Jetfighters 2DL stock missiles (anti flyer, anti infantry, starts in reserve)
5 Scourges w/4 Heatlances ( antitank, Starts in reserve)

Heavy Support
Ravager w/3 DL & NS (Antitank, may start in reserve)
Ravager w 3 DL & NS (Antitank, may start in reserve)

Formation
Purge Cotorie
Archon w/archangel, shadowfield, agoniser, Hwg, & WWP (joins Trueborn)

9 Trueborn Kabalites 4 w/Blasters, 4 plain
Dracon w/agoniser
Raider w/DL & NS ( Starts in reserve)

3 Reavers w/CC & HL ( Bait, screen, obj grabber may start in reserve)

So you got 2 deathstars that will be hard to Target due to Veil of tears, lotsa of psychic dice for psychic Shriek, and buzzsaws in CC. You also have decent Antitank, some anti air, and a few throwaway units for helpful soulbursting, and obj grabbers. Plus a fully-kitted melee WK and a Yncarne.

Should be right around 3500 pts.

sorry about not replying, i thought this thread ended up killed.

but i thank you alot for your input into my APOC list.
i played the game and my team won with me as MVP because my WK ran in and took out 3 imperial knights xD whoo whoo