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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1744629938/terraincrate-plastic-affordable-fantasy-terrain?ref=hero_thanks

I'll try to pretty this up if I get a chance, but the Mantic terrain Kickstarter just went live. Maybe someone not a phone can help make this thread look a little less crummy!

Damn, that's a lot of terrain in those packs. I feel like a jerk for spending way more than that on resin pieces.

With this Kickstarter, you'll get fantasy terrain that's:

Affordable! - save up to 50% on the RRP, plus additional free stretch goals
Plastic! - this will be hard-wearing plastic, rather than potentially fragile (and often expensive) resin
Multi-purpose! - combine different sets to create entirely new themes and rooms
Pre-built! - all the scenery pieces are ready straight from the box
Multi-use! - we've created TerrainCrate to be used with a range of games, RPGs and existing terrain ranges

When launched in 2018, each of the sets - such as the Wizard's Study or the Campsite - will retail at $29.99/£19.99, so the Kickstarter is a great saving on the retail price.

SHIPPING

Shipping is NOT included in your pledge and will be calculated once the campaign has completed. You will be charged during the Pledge Manager for shipping.

However, if you wish to add the funds to shipping for your pledge now, in preparation for the Pledge Manager, we currently estimate that the shipping costs for the pledges will be approximately:

Single TerrainCrate - UK $6, Europe $8, North America $8 and Rest of World $15

Two TerrainCrates bundle - UK $10, Europe $15, North America $15 and Rest of World $15

Three TerrainCrate bundle - UK $12, Europe $18, North America $18 and Rest of World $30

All add-ons outside the core pledges will have their shipping calculated and charged in the Pledge Manager after the campaign has finished.

Jumped in on the 3-pack early bird. For ~$1 a piece at the start, that's pretty good value. I only assume we'll get more added to drop that price down.

~iPaint

How reliable are Mantic when it comes to KS delivery times? I've not backed anything from them before.

 Ian Sturrock wrote:
How reliable are Mantic when it comes to KS delivery times? I've not backed anything from them before.

The less stuff in it, the better. Usually very good about wave 1 deliveries, later waves slip.

However, this is all pretty simple hard plastic terrain like the Dungeon Saga, Mars Attacks, and The Walking Dead style terrain, which they have lots of experience producing now. I would imagine this would ship pretty on-time.
No printed materials or boxed sets to assemble, things to wait on from various printers, playtesting, etc.

I wanted to be excited about this (particularly as I do dungeon crawls and Mordheim etc.) but the Dungeon Saga KS that I received was one of the most underwhelming, disappointing things I've ever received in the post.

I sold it the next day. The quality was so stunningly mediocre. I'm trying to remember how good/bad the terrain was, but on the whole it wiped Mantic off my shopping list for the foreseeable future. I hope the prices get so low that it's worth what you get, but I don't think I'll be risking it on this one.

Those look much, much better than I was expecting them to, but I do wish the pledges were a little more granular - I can use almost everything in each style once, but buying multiples to get the book cases & walls I really want loads of would leave me with tons of useless duplicates.

 judgedoug wrote:

 Ian Sturrock wrote:
How reliable are Mantic when it comes to KS delivery times? I've not backed anything from them before.

The less stuff in it, the better. Usually very good about wave 1 deliveries, later waves slip.

However, this is all pretty simple hard plastic terrain like the Dungeon Saga, Mars Attacks, and The Walking Dead style terrain, which they have lots of experience producing now. I would imagine this would ship pretty on-time.
No printed materials or boxed sets to assemble, things to wait on from various printers, playtesting, etc.

It also helps a lot if the KS has few components.

As I understand the campaign, there'll be these three boxes and that's it. Stretch-goals will add things to the boxes, there won't be a lot of add-ons and stretchgoals are mainly more stuff that's already contained in (other) boxes.

Most significant delays to KS's seem to happen when the creators start adding too many and too complicated stretchgoals, like entire new kits. The Mantic KoW kickstarters had some stuff get very delayed iirc, but the recent Walking dead KS seems to have gone out more or less on time and that one followed the approach of few levels and not many add-ons.

I'm on the fence with this one. I'll watch this thread for now, maybe I'll change my mind.

I was underwhelmed by Dungeon Saga as well (mostly in that it wanted to be a 2 player tactical game rather than an actual dungeon crawl), but the terrain was great in my opinion. Hardest bit of it for me to part with.

I though it was on par with the terrain from Mars Attacks, which was also pretty solid scatter terrain.

Also, more stretch goals incoming-





Certainly can't complain about them keeping the gaps nice and close for now either!

I think the crates look good. I'm gonna have to wait for retail though, already blew too much money this month on way too much paint and SWA. Maybe I can sneak in a pledge toward the end though, I like the dungeon debris set.. would be good for western scatter terrain and obstacles

Not exactly cheap in my opinion.
However if I get all 3 sets, I'll have buckets of stuff I can throw on a variety of boards... Frostgrave, Bolt Action, Saga, KoW and Tombstone.

Happy.
Will be happier if more stuff gets added and it delivers on time!

You can bet on a 50% increase from the original offer at least.

 Yodhrin wrote:
Those look much, much better than I was expecting them to, but I do wish the pledges were a little more granular - I can use almost everything in each style once, but buying multiples to get the book cases & walls I really want loads of would leave me with tons of useless duplicates.

Sets (eg. Wizard's Study) will be added as add-ons, and they're mentioning doors as an add-on, which suggests the previously released Dungeon Saga furniture and doors sets will be available, although Miniature Market is cheaper (if they get it back in stock!).

While Dungeon Saga was poorly fulfilled, Walking Dead worked out fine, afaik. I'm hearing good things about the Dungeon Saga furniture, although I'm not expecting hard plastic sprues here.

Skrill's paintjob: http://forum.reapermini.com/index.php?/topic/65599-dungeon-saga-painted-mantic/

I'm currently in this one but I'm just looking over Conan, Twisting Catacombs, Bones.. and just all this other terrain .. that's basically the same stuff in these.. good deal or not.. I just don't need duplicates of 80-90% of this :/

Breaking it out by rooms for add-ons would help me to stay in this... and I fully am glad people who don't have this stuff are able to scoop it up for a reasonable price.

I think they went for the wrong genre for this one. I feel they should've gone with sci-fi stuff with the apparent success of SWA.

overtyrant wrote:
I think they went for the wrong genre for this one. I feel they should've gone with sci-fi stuff with the apparent success of SWA.

I agree. I can't imagine the terrain add-on for their upcoming board game (...name escapes me) wasn't the best selling add-on for that campaign..

However.. I think they maybe are looking at the fact that as a company.. their footprint is kinda lopsided. They have scads of sci-fi terrain and very little fantasy terrain to speak of. While I would've preferred Warpath flavored scatter terrain, obj, etc.. I think for them as a company and the overall health and diversity of their catalog.. it just made sense to hit fantasy first. Knowing Mantic...sci-fi cannot be that far off.

SWA? I'm not sure how Star Wars Armada needs this sort of scatter terrain...

SWA - Shadow War: Armageddon.

I would have loved a modern / post-apocalypse box but not sure if they would have licensing issues with Walking Dead.

What am I missing here? The battlefield set, you can get most of that already from renedra for about half that price. It looks really expensive to me. Or you could buy the GW laketown bundle for that price, far better value to my mind.

The furniture was certainly the best part of the DS kickstarter. Some of the plastics was a bit sticky in mine though, so didn't take paint brilliantly (Primarily the tabes, bookshelves and well), but once they do, they look fantastic.

I'm just about to build my first gaming table, so this couldn't have come at a better time

I liked the terrain for DS. And the miniatures as well. Otoh, I already have a lot of terrain from DS so I probably won't need this...Probably

 Huginn wrote:
What am I missing here? The battlefield set, you can get most of that already from renedra for about half that price. It looks really expensive to me. Or you could buy the GW laketown bundle for that price, far better value to my mind.

Could you put together some sample $180 packages from Rendra towards the end of the Mantic campaign? I think the only thing your'e missing is marketing.

Is this the Laketown bundle you're talking about? I don't see Mantic offering lakeside buildings, so don't get the comparison. I assume backers are interested in this Mantic terrain for dungeon adventuring, or land battles, not seaside towns. : https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Lake-Town-House-Bundle

Thanks!

More SG's announced, including...

EDIT: Unlocked! 191 pieces total!

ced1106 wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
Those look much, much better than I was expecting them to, but I do wish the pledges were a little more granular - I can use almost everything in each style once, but buying multiples to get the book cases & walls I really want loads of would leave me with tons of useless duplicates.

Sets (eg. Wizard's Study) will be added as add-ons, and they're mentioning doors as an add-on, which suggests the previously released Dungeon Saga furniture and doors sets will be available, although Miniature Market is cheaper (if they get it back in stock!).

While Dungeon Saga was poorly fulfilled, Walking Dead worked out fine, afaik. I'm hearing good things about the Dungeon Saga furniture, although I'm not expecting hard plastic sprues here.

Skrill's paintjob: http://forum.reapermini.com/index.php?/topic/65599-dungeon-saga-painted-mantic/

Woop woop, that's me in then - my Great Library of Mordheim ruin project might finally have reached the right intersection of price-to-effort(Zealot's amazing resin dungeon terrain is too pricey, and have you ever tried making hundreds of bookshelves by hand? Don't. Ever.).

As for fantasy vs sci-fi - eh, different markets entirely IMO. These are pitched at people who're playing RPGs and dungeon crawler games, most people playing games like SWA want terrain for gameplay reasons and that means, primarily, LoS-blocking cover. Sure they'd sell plenty to a few of us suckers who insist on "storytelling" via our terrain so even a barricade ends up with some wee setting-appropriate tweak, but your average tabletop wargamer wants a kit to put together and use as a functional object, not hundreds of wee nick-nacks.

Aye there's a market for it, but the fantasy dungeon crowd will be much bigger.

Not sure any sci-fi stuff Mantic might produce would fit a 40k setting, they tend to do more of a "clean and shiny" sci-fi vibe than grimdark gothic.

Don't forget about the dnd crowd for this one.

It's looking ok to me so far. We'll see how we're doing in two weeks.

Decided to go for 1 crate for the Dungeon Debris. I plan to use that more for wild west scatter terrain though

Hot damn, they're blowing thru stretch goals. Loving the new pieces.

RE Renedra - I have lots of Renedra barrels, fencing, etc. Maybe one at least of everything they offer (and just bought 4 mud brick houses to boot). And they certainly don't offer most of what Mantic has in these kits...

With all of those bookshelves, I sure hope someone at Mantic is looking at buying a boardgame license from Jorge Luis Borges' estate.



Also, might finally be able to game out the Battle of the Bookstore, and live out the fantasy in 28mm.